The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

JoeA3 · 20-08-2018 10:07AM

Main draw with PCP is that it makes a car that feels otherwise unaffordable - affordable. It may cost the same or maybe even more than HP over the course of the term but most people will be looking at what it's going to cost month to month and the PCP option is almost always a lot more attractive on that front.

The big main dealers will do PCP on some used cars... I'd say its not too unusual to go PCP on something that's 2 years old. I'd imagine the cars have to fit a certain criteria - i.e. low milers, above average condition, strong-ish residuals, etc. If the figures are right, I don't think there's anything much wrong with a punter taking this option. The value of the car is at least guaranteed at the end of the term.

68 lost souls · 20-08-2018 10:11AM

JoeA3 wrote: »

Main draw with PCP is that it makes a car that feels otherwise unaffordable - affordable. It may cost the same or maybe even more than HP over the course of the term but most people will be looking at what it's going to cost month to month and the PCP option is almost always a lot more attractive on that front.

The big main dealers will do PCP on some used cars... I'd say its not too unusual to go PCP on something that's 2 years old. I'd imagine the cars have to fit a certain criteria - i.e. low milers, above average condition, strong-ish residuals, etc. If the figures are right, I don't think there's anything much wrong with a punter taking this option. The value of the car is at least guaranteed at the end of the term.

I feel like a guaranteed value on a diesel is a plus at the moment as there is a bit of uncertainty on their futures.

I am going to check the cost of HP to compare it just in case and so I dont walk in blindly.

Moving away from PCP chat is there anything in particular I should be looking at and also are there any spec options that people feel are a must have?

vintagevrs · 20-08-2018 11:03AM

What wheels are on the car? If they are diamond cut, white worm may be creeping in. If it is get them to sort it. Other than that, not sure if anything specific on the gtd.

JoeA3 · 20-08-2018 11:13AM

As above, its a well spec'd car as standard. Anything above standard is a bonus.

The adaptive chassis and winter pack are 2 nice-to-have options on the one you're looking at. If its an Irish car, then I'd say it probably has Nav and a couple of other bits (keyless maybe?) that they were throwing in, in a "Tech pack" back in 161.

The wheels are diamond cut for sure. So have a good look at them, look for the tell tale signs of whiteworm corrosion, get them refurbed as part of the deal.

68 lost souls · 20-08-2018 11:54AM

Yep they said they would refurb them before picking it up.

Its a UK car originally and does have satnav but not reversing camera, it has the sensors.

Any parts that went early on these? I know they can eat the oil a bit so need to check that there's no issues there but anything else?

JoeA3 · 20-08-2018 11:59AM

OSI wrote: »

Hmm.. The UK cars had pretty **** spec, I'd be checking what else is missing that would be on an Irish car.

Ah not really. There's not much in it. UK car would have an alarm for example, which is missing on the vast majority of Irish cars.

The UK car would really just be missing the "tech pack" that the dealers were throwing in around that time and was added to most Irish cars. The contents of said pack varied from time to time.... Nav, keyless, camera...

Toyotafanboi · 20-08-2018 12:04PM

The tech pack was for 162 because we got it on our Highline for €162 extra at the time.

To be fair I think the tech pack bits really finish the car off, as you say the keyless entry and rear camera are really nice additions, you got android auto/ app connect too which is nice.

hooch-85 · 20-08-2018 04:15PM

68 lost souls wrote: »

Yep they said they would refurb them before picking it up.

Its a UK car originally and does have satnav but not reversing camera, it has the sensors.

Any parts that went early on these? I know they can eat the oil a bit so need to check that there's no issues there but anything else?

Can you elaborate on this? Haven't heard anything about oil consumption and have recently bought a GTD myself.

If you stick up a link to the one you are interested in the guys on here should be able to tell what options it has. DSG and DCC would be relatively rare on the GTD

68 lost souls · 20-08-2018 04:32PM

hooch-85 wrote: »

Can you elaborate on this? Haven't heard anything about oil consumption and have recently bought a GTD myself.

If you stick up a link to the one you are interested in the guys on here should be able to tell what options it has. DSG and DCC would be relatively rare on the GTD

Was a little hesitant to do that in case someone else sees it here and goes for it.

Here is talk of excessive oil conusmption https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4007

VW say acceptable consumption is up to 1 litre per 1,200 miles apparently. I doubt a lot of owners check their oil that regularly.

hooch-85 · 20-08-2018 04:49PM

Cheers for the tip, will keep an eye on it. Had a mk5 GTi before and the TFSi in that liked a bit of oil. My Fiesta ST never burned a drop in 77kms that I had it and it was driven hard regularly.

JoeA3 · 20-08-2018 05:21PM

I don't think they have any known big issues tbh. The petrols (GTI, R, etc) have a reputation for a bit of thirst for oil but I didn't hear of that problem in the diesels. That engine in the GTD is used in lots of other cars across the VAG range, it's tried and tested.

A few things to watch for, off the top of my head:

- If it's DSG, make sure it's had the DSG service (as per the service schedule)
- the wheels - diamond cut - look for the corrosion
- the rear wheel hubs get rusty as hell. It looks terrible, but you can scrub them up / paint them silver yourself. Dealer won't be interested.
- the drivers seat bolster can be prone to bad premature wear, depending on how careful (or fat) the first owner was
- the front end is bad for picking up stone chips. If there's little or no stone chips I'd be thinking it's had a paint job (which is no bad thing if it was done right)
- the front suspension is prone to squeaks and groans. Fix can be suspension bushes or strut top mounts.
- wipers can be absolute crap. Seems to vary from one car to another. Squeeking / juddering, that even replacing blades don't fix.

maddness · 20-08-2018 06:12PM

I’d really miss the Tech Pack tbh. I use the keyless, nav and reversing camera a lot.

hooch-85 · 20-08-2018 06:13PM

maddness wrote: »

I’d really miss the Tech Pack tbh. I use the keyless, nav and reversing camera a lot.

Mine is a 2015 UK import and it has all of those except keyless, had it in my last car and it's a bit of a gimmick really

nim1bdeh38l2cw · 21-08-2018 04:57PM

So, should I buy a GTI or an R? '17 :-)

Wailin · 21-08-2018 05:55PM

Surely an R if money not an issue? No comparison really in that case.

Truckermal · 21-08-2018 06:20PM

hooch-85 wrote: »

Mine is a 2015 UK import and it has all of those except keyless, had it in my last car and it's a bit of a gimmick really

Really? I have keyless on my own car but the wife's hasn't and it's a pain rooting for keys especially when your hands are full!

First world problems..:p

SaintsYB · 22-08-2018 10:48AM

Aliana Low Stepmother wrote: »

So, should I buy a GTI or an R? '17 :-)

As said above, if money isn't an issue, I'd be going for the R. It's a big step up if you ask me.

hooch-85 · 22-08-2018 12:08PM

SaintsYB wrote: »

As said above, if money isn't an issue, I'd be going for the R. It's a big step up if you ask me.

I think if money wasn't an issue i'd have a Clubsport over an R.

vintagevrs · 22-08-2018 12:17PM

Yeah I would agree with the above. The R on paper would seem better, but you could probably have as much fun in a GTI. Drive both a see what ye prefer. The interior on the GTI is more "special" than that in the R.

Google photos tells me my pick up day was 3 years ago today...

blingrhino · 22-08-2018 12:23PM

And you still miss it michael !

vintagevrs · 22-08-2018 12:31PM

I'm all about the daysul these days:cool:

hooch-85 · 22-08-2018 01:12PM

https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-gti-clubsport/21213/new-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-to-top-realigned-gti-range

JoeA3 · 22-08-2018 01:24PM

I've owned both an R and a GTI. If in the unlikely event I was buying one again I'd probably go for a nicely spec'd GTI PP or better still, a Clubsport.

The R is an absolute weapon and can make a very average driver seem like a very very good driver! Especially if its DSG equipped. Throwing it down a twisty backroad, it can outrun just about anything else out there comfortably. On the flip side, it has a hefty enough appetite for fuel, the looks are a bit of a mixed bag (its too sedate from most angles and then you look at the rear end and the quad exhausts just seem at odds with the rest) and.... it just tends to attract the wrong sort of attention.

The GTI looks a bit more special inside and out and is quick/fun enough most of the time and it'll be a bit easier on the pocket for running costs.

kooga · 22-08-2018 08:41PM

hooch-85 wrote: »

https://www.evo.co.uk/volkswagen/golf-gti-clubsport/21213/new-volkswagen-golf-gti-tcr-to-top-realigned-gti-range

Will vw irl import the revised gti and tcr models?

DaveyDave · 23-08-2018 03:18AM

I didn't realize the Golf had an auxiliary heater option in Germany to preheat the car. That'd be a handy feature alright.

A little over €39k for a DSG PP, matched to our spec. Their finance seems very good. €280 a month with a 30% deposit, 3 years/20,000km.

deceit · 24-08-2018 10:43AM

Would anyone know on here if its normal for a Golf R only to provide full boost after 98Degrees engine oil temp or is this caused by a tune I'm not aware of?
It effectively doesn't allow race mode until this temp as the baffles in the exhaust stay closed until then (Can notice the noise difference outside and in) and it feels like less than half boost before that point.
I guessed only aftermarket tunes did this.

vintagevrs · 24-08-2018 03:18PM

Race mode shouldn't change boost levels. It'll change throttle sensitivity but wide open throttle in race and normal mode is the same thing. The fake sound inside will be louder too.

I thought the exhaust valves should be permanently open in race mode also.

JoeA3 · 24-08-2018 04:25PM

vintagevrs wrote: »

I thought the exhaust valves should be permanently open in race mode also.

Only when giving it beans. I did think it was permanent too, but no. I did code mine to be open permanently but I found that the drone/noise was terrible at low speeds so I coded them back to normal again very soon after. Mind you, its all relative... I'm sure that drone was nothing compared to the diesel rattle I'm accustomed to now

Neilw · 24-08-2018 07:50PM

deceit wrote: »

Would anyone know on here if its normal for a Golf R only to provide full boost after 98Degrees engine oil temp or is this caused by a tune I'm not aware of?
It effectively doesn't allow race mode until this temp as the baffles in the exhaust stay closed until then (Can notice the noise difference outside and in) and it feels like less than half boost before that point.
I guessed only aftermarket tunes did this.

Revo tunes are boost limited at lower temperatures, its possible the car had a remap.

deceit · 24-08-2018 08:24PM

Neilw wrote: »

Revo tunes are boost limited at lower temperatures, its possible the car had a remap.

Would make sense as the car had a lot of mods removed and put back to standard before I took it.
It could be handy if could tell which one as I was going to schedule my car in to get a Revo tune soon

The Mega Mk7 Golf GTI/GTD/R thread

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