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  • #5702
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,628 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Skelet0n wrote: »
    Surely the problem stems from just handing out cold currency. Currency that can be used to buy fags or drink or whatever. A credit system where the credits can be used in state run shops to buy necessities.

    Yeah this would work but it’d probably be abused by a blackmarket for fags and alcohol etc.


  • #5703
    Sardine
    Site Banned Posts: 210 ✭✭Sardine


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Ding ding - we got a Godwin.

    Okay then, what is the way to stop this situation repeating itself ? All some posters have done is say the suggestions made would not work.

    So what would ?

    All I can think of is making damn sure the kids are educated by hook or by crook and doing our utmost to make sure they don't turn out like the rest of their kin.
    I'll take my chances with that approach rather than yours, Hitler.


  • #5704
    cherryghost
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,151 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    She's being kicked out of her new apartment. 2 weeks to get packing


  • #5705
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Yeah it seems crazy that a fg minister would come out with this Prsi hike just before an election coming in feb or around then. Is that not political suicide?
    I know the hike is to fund state pensions but that money should come from welfare reform.

    Off topic for this thread but, unless something similar to the Frances Fitzgerald saga happens in the near future, I doubt there will be a general election before 2020 at the earliest.


  • #5706
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,628 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Sardine wrote: »
    Yeah they'd probably not have as many. Some still would though, what do you do with those ones is what I'm unsure of.

    Well we could cross that bridge when we come to it but As I said if the parents worked 39 hrs or contributed to community service for example then they could qualify for child benefit for 3rd child.


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  • #5707
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Sardine wrote: »
    Sorry you can't just dismiss something because I pointed it out as being a Nazi policy. I'm unaware of any other regime that sterilised people forcefully so of course I'm going to compare it to that.

    It was policy for lower income black women in some parts of the USA I believe. I will try to find a link.

    There is a VAST VAST difference between pure eugenics to wipe out a race and family planning/limitation measures for people who refuse to show responsibility and expect everyone to pay for their chosen life.


  • #5708
    Sardine
    Site Banned Posts: 210 ✭✭Sardine


    I looked at her Facebook last week. Some girl with a foreign surname commented on why she had so many kids, or why she doesn't work, and Mags's friends went bananas at the girl for being foreign and coming over here taking all our jobs etc.
    The irony!


  • #5709
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,628 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Off topic for this thread but, unless something similar to the Frances Fitzgerald saga happens in the near future, I doubt there will be a general election before 2020 at the earliest.

    Hmmmm. I had read feb 2019 as a runner. Could be bs though.


  • #5710
    Sardine
    Site Banned Posts: 210 ✭✭Sardine


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    It was policy for lower income black women in some parts of the USA I believe. I will try to find a link.

    There is a VAST VAST difference between pure eugenics to wipe out a race and family planning/limitation measures for people who refuse to show responsibility and expect everyone to pay for their chosen life.

    Oh well that makes it ok then, that it wasn't only the Fuehrer sterilising people.


  • #5711
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Sardine wrote: »
    All I can think of is making damn sure the kids are educated by hook or by crook and doing our utmost to make sure they don't turn out like the rest of their kin.
    I'll take my chances with that approach rather than yours, Hitler.

    When you have a "mother" who says they're better off leaving school at 11 lest they end up on drugs, education is clearly not a viable option.

    Sometimes the punitive measures have to be used and giving adequate notice NOW that should you have more than two children we will not fund them, I see no issue with that.


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  • #5712
    Sardine
    Site Banned Posts: 210 ✭✭Sardine


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    When you have a "mother" who says they're better off leaving school at 11 lest they end up on drugs, education is clearly not a viable option.

    Sometimes the punitive measures have to be used and giving adequate notice NOW that should you have more than two children we will not fund them, I see no issue with that.

    The mother is an idiot. This is why state intervention for those kids is needed.


  • #5713
    dermo888
    Site Banned Posts: 160 ✭✭dermo888


    Sardine wrote: »
    I looked at her Facebook last week. Some girl with a foreign surname commented on why she had so many kids, or why she doesn't work, and Mags's friends went bananas at the girl for being foreign and coming over here taking all our jobs etc.
    The irony!
    Yep - I used to see that kind of anti social 'dirt' in the Pub I worked in as a student. The Assistant Manager in 1993, 3 children, a typical ordinary 25,000 mortgage (12% interest back then), got less after working a 60 hour+ week, paying tax and PRSI, while one customer, a dirtbird called Samanteh with 6 kids, got more than him off 'de social'.
    It put me off socialism. The Election campaign was taking place, and Ruari Quinn said 

    "Ireland cannot afford a minimum wage". 

    I never voted Labour again. I had just gone 18, and I've told them since why. 

    They are'nt the party of the ordinary honest working class man, and there has'nt been anyone out for us in over three decades.


  • #5714
    deaddonkey15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭deaddonkey15


    Sardine wrote: »
    I looked at her Facebook last week. Some girl with a foreign surname commented on why she had so many kids, or why she doesn't work, and Mags's friends went bananas at the girl for being foreign and coming over here taking all our jobs etc.
    The irony!

    The comments from her friends really are something else.

    "Never seen anything like them tbh wouldn't u think they give u some house our something" - Yeah you'd think they'd just give her something that others work their entire lives to be able to afford.

    "In dromcondra!! Jesus you will have to travel miles for the schools. This is scandalous" - Scandalous that she'd have to do what countless others up and down the country do every day.

    "The Council need to get their fingers out and Minister Murphy would want to take off his rose coloured glasses and look at the problem he gets paid enough money to do a job its his place to demand information from the local authorities about what is happening to these homes and maybe if he used his brain cells if he has any, threaten to stop funding until this issue is resolved" Demanding that someone else does their job - brilliant.

    All a bit depressing really.


  • #5715
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    dermo888 wrote: »
    Yep - I used to see that kind of anti social 'dirt' in the Pub I worked in as a student. The Assistant Manager in 1993, 3 children, a typical ordinary 25,000 mortgage (12% interest back then), got less after working a 60 hour+ week, paying tax and PRSI, while one customer, a dirtbird called Samanteh with 6 kids, got more than him off 'de social'.
    It put me off socialism. The Election campaign was taking place, and Ruari Quinn said 

    "Ireland cannot afford a minimum wage". 

    I never voted Labour again. I had just gone 18, and I've told them since why. 

    They are'nt the party of the ordinary honest working class man, and there has'nt been anyone out for us in over three decades.

    Not a word in that I disagree with.

    I have mentioned before that a local Sinn Fein member said I was "the 1%" because I paid the higher rate of tax.

    Despite my agreement with them on many points and my being a Republican, I'm done with them.

    There really is no party who stands up for the proper working person.


  • #5716
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    deaddonkey15 wrote: »
    The comments from her friends really are something else.

    "Never seen anything like them tbh wouldn't u think they give u some house our something" - Yeah you'd think they'd just give her something that others work their entire lives to be able to afford.

    "In dromcondra!! Jesus you will have to travel miles for the schools. This is scandalous" - Scandalous that she'd have to do what countless others up and down the country do every day.

    "The Council need to get their fingers out and Minister Murphy would want to take off his rose coloured glasses and look at the problem he gets paid enough money to do a job its his place to demand information from the local authorities about what is happening to these homes and maybe if he used his brain cells if he has any, threaten to stop funding until this issue is resolved" Demanding that someone else does their job - brilliant.

    All a bit depressing really.

    Completely and utterly depressing and soul crushing that. Scandalous ? Something about this is alright.


  • #5717
    Shakey_jake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Shakey_jake


    Can anyone pin point when this country became a scrougers play ground where it makes more sense not to work and beg for everything instead?

    Housing crisis me hole! Free housing crisis more like

    When will it end and who do i vote for

    I seriously worry which way Ireland's headed


  • #5718
    na1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 921 ✭✭✭na1


    Sardine wrote: »
    I looked at her Facebook last week. Some girl with a foreign surname commented on why she had so many kids, or why she doesn't work, and Mags's friends went bananas at the girl for being foreign and coming over here taking all our jobs etc.
    The irony!
    She took the Maggie's job for sure!


  • #5719
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,628 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    cherryghost wrote: »
    She's being kicked out of her new apartment. 2 weeks to get packing

    How do ya know that?


  • #5720
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    tom1ie wrote: »
    How do ya know that?

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/3008761/homeless-mum-margaret-cash-move-out-apartment/


  • #5721
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    https://www.thesun.ie/news/3008761/homeless-mum-margaret-cash-move-out-apartment/

    Jesus would you look at that apartment!

    2 grand a month easy. Sick of looking at her and the ****ing kids now.

    The media are showing how dumb and gullible they are now.


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  • #5722
    Skelet0n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭Skelet0n


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Yeah this would work but it’d probably be abused by a blackmarket for fags and alcohol etc.

    A personalised card with credits loaded on it. Not vouchers that you can give away.

    You’d have to swap physical objects which would be a pain, and being caught doing so would reduce say the “luxuries” credits eg crisps, chocolate etc. It wouldn’t be that hard to police, if you’re caught smoking or drinking and you’re on this system then it will be reduced as you shouldn’t be able to afford it.


  • #5723
    Sardine
    Site Banned Posts: 210 ✭✭Sardine


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    The media are showing how dumb and gullible they are now.

    I don't really know what they're playing at because I haven't met one person who's been on the side of Ms Cash. Is it because they're travellers? Everyone's afraid of travellers.


  • #5724
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,108 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Easier to sell a sob story than actually looking for facts and seeking the truth of the situation


  • #5725
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,628 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Easier to sell a sob story than actually looking for facts and seeking the truth of the situation

    Yeah for main stream media, but I didn’t even hear of one minor publication asking questions about this? It’s all a bit mad. People seemed to get sucked into the feel sorry for this woman on social media bubble.


  • #5726
    stratowide
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 570 ✭✭✭stratowide


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Jesus would you look at that apartment!

    2 grand a month easy. Sick of looking at her and the ****ing kids now.

    The media are showing how dumb and gullible they are now.

    Far from dumb and gullible they are.They know exactly what's going on.They watch all social media.They know the mood on the streets.Hell they are even reading this here on boards.
    Always remember a newspaper has 64 blank pages every day that have to be filled.

    At this time of year in the silly season it's slow news time.This story is like manna from heaven for these hacks/liars/immoral charlatans etc.

    But this story sells papers and is golden clickbait for online media (don't ever click on links posted here to promote this bullsh*t).

    If it was in their interests to promote the actual reality of this story they'd turn on her in a flash.Make no mistake.

    They couldn't give a toss about her,it's all about the bottom line.

    Making money


  • #5727
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Sardine wrote: »
    I looked at her Facebook last week. Some girl with a foreign surname commented on why she had so many kids, or why she doesn't work, and Mags's friends went bananas at the girl for being foreign and coming over here taking all our jobs etc.
    The irony!

    Foreigners are always an easy target to the underclass.

    I want her (the friend) and her ilk out of the country.


  • #5728
    Sardine
    Site Banned Posts: 210 ✭✭Sardine


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Foreigners are always an easy target to the underclass.

    I want her (the friend) and her ilk out of the country.

    Yeah it's mad, I live near the Lidl beside Darndale and a few times there's been kids running around knocking things off shelves calling the security guard "n*gger" to his face and running off. Nothing the poor guy can do.


  • #5729
    maynooth_rules
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭maynooth_rules


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Foreigners are always an easy target to the underclass.

    I want her (the friend) and her ilk out of the country.

    Give me a country full of 'foreigners' with a drive to work that social welfare leeches who will never contribute one cent to the country


  • #5730
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sardine wrote: »
    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    The media are showing how dumb and gullible they are now.

    I don't really know what they're playing at because I haven't met one person who's been on the side of Ms Cash. Is it because they're travellers? Everyone's afraid of travellers.

    Travelers who don’t travel.


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  • #5731
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,847 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sardine wrote: »
    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    The media are showing how dumb and gullible they are now.

    I don't really know what they're playing at because I haven't met one person who's been on the side of Ms Cash. Is it because they're travellers? Everyone's afraid of travellers.

    Travelers who don’t travel.


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