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Deirdre Jacob missing twenty years Today.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,376 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    I'd know what Tina's family would be like in general and what is said in the area.

    Larry is disowned by family


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,268 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Larry is disowned by family

    I think his brother went on TV and said this a few years ago!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Sofi1


    I think his brother went on TV and said this a few years ago!

    Yes, and he was left out of his mother's death notice earlier this year, which is kind of a big thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Ande1975


    I haven't followed the Tina Satchwell story as closely. It would be interesting to know what the feeling is like in Youghal.


    I lived in North Kildare a few years before LM was release. I think it was a car journey with friends from the area to see Dolly that I learned about him and the missing girls. A friend said that it was well known in the area that he was behind some of the disappearences.



    It points towards him alright, more concidences but completely understand Deirdre's parents wanting to keep an open mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Very rare thankfully. The chances of being abducted and murdered in Ireland by a random maniac are several million to one - there have been only a miniscule number of such cases since Deirdre went missing.
    Could it be a case of her being knocked down and killed by a car. The driver panics and puts the body in the boot of the car and heads for a boghole in the Bog of Allen?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Id say he done JoJo too. Dissappeared in much the ssme circumstances.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭iano.p


    Sofi1 wrote:
    Yes, and he was left out of his mother's death notice earlier this year, which is kind of a big thing.


    He visited her in hospital and went to the funeral home late at night when she died. A few people have seen him at the grave also if you can believe that. Many people who worked on sites in Carlow Wicklow area at the time would know him or worked with him. I worked on 3 sites with him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Ande1975


    iano.p wrote: »
    He visited her in hospital and went to the funeral home late at night when she died. A few people have seen him at the grave also if you can believe that. Many people who worked on sites in Carlow Wicklow area at the time would know him or worked with him. I worked on 3 sites with him.


    I saw the RIP.ie notice and he wasn't listed which is fair enough. Is he still in the country? Did you get to know him?

    Don't want to be intrusive, sorry


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭iano.p


    Id say he done JoJo too. Dissappeared in much the ssme circumstances.

    Don't think so it's known locally who done it. The garda just can't prove it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    iano.p wrote: »
    Don't think so it's known locally who done it. The garda just can't prove it.

    Yeh but that is all conjecture and here say and we all know how stories grow legs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    iano.p wrote: »
    Don't think so it's known locally who done it. The garda just can't prove it.

    You mean the locals "suspect" someone.
    Obviously they have no proof.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 817 ✭✭✭iano.p


    Ande1975 wrote:
    I saw the RIP.ie notice and he wasn't listed which is fair enough. Is he still in the country? Did you get to know him?


    I worked as a carpenter so would have worked on crews with him. He was odd but nothing outta the blue. I would have known his wife so would have some what known each other. Strange twist we both know the hunters who found him that night too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Ande1975


    Sofi1 is from Newbridge and says most think its LM. I've heard that too.
    Is there another possibility?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Ande1975 wrote: »
    Sofi1 is from Newbridge and says most think its LM. I've heard that too.
    Is there another possibility?

    Yes. More than likely it was Larry but also could have been anyone. John crerar for dxample.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Ande1975


    I think I read (again somewhere on boards ) that there was a connection between LM and John Crerar.



    I'd say those hunters never got over that night. Its the stuff of nightmares.
    Hope LM's wife has moved on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Sofi1


    Ande1975 wrote: »
    I lived in North Kildare a few years before LM was release. I think it was a car journey with friends from the area to see Dolly that I learned about him and the missing girls. A friend said that it was well known in the area that he was behind some of the disappearences.

    It points towards him alright, more concidences but completely understand Deirdre's parents wanting to keep an open mind.

    I wonder have Deirdre's parents been advised by Gardai to mention that there may be other culprits/explanations. Just so it's not seen as a fait accompli and people neglect to disclose some small detail that might be helpful?

    Obviously nobody locally thought it was him before he attacked the woman in Carlow, he was unknown then, of course. But there was just nothing, nothing at all to explain Deirdre's disappearance. Nobody was arrested or questioned afaik, there was no other suspect prior to LM. When it was know what he did and how he did it, it seemed to explain how and why a young woman could disappear into thin air. We could be talking about the Carlow lady in the past tense if she wasn't able to somehow get the strength to fight LM a bit, and then of course, the two hunters landed on the scene. When it emerged that he had connections to Newbridge, that convinced most people, for right or for wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Are Am Eye


    Ande1975 wrote: »
    I think I read (again somewhere on boards ) that there was a connection between LM and John Crerar.
    .

    It was established that they knew each other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    iano.p wrote: »
    I worked as a carpenter so would have worked on crews with him. He was odd but nothing outta the blue. I would have known his wife so would have some what known each other. Strange twist we both know the hunters who found him that night too[/QUOTE

    Where was this (LM) wife from!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,953 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    Are Am Eye wrote: »
    It was established that they knew each other.

    Who is John crear?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Sofi1


    Yes. More than likely it was Larry but also could have been anyone. John crerar for dxample.

    John Crerar knew Phyllis, they lived in the same estate in Kildare town, and she'd babysat his children. She probably willingly took a lift from him from the bus stop, he didn't have to drag her into the car. He was in his 50s when Deirdre disappeared. At that stage in his life would he have the recklessness and strength to forcibly abduct a woman he didn't know?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Sofi1


    Ande1975 wrote: »
    I'd say those hunters never got over that night. Its the stuff of nightmares.

    Supposedly they were invited to the Carlow lady's wedding, and were mentioned in the speeches.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    https://amp.independent.ie/irish-news/murphy-link-as-search-for-body-begins-26811359.html

    Good article here with lots of info. Not sure if it was posted already.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,758 ✭✭✭Laois_Man


    Ande1975 wrote: »
    I think I read (again somewhere on boards ) that there was a connection between LM and John Crerar.



    I'd say those hunters never got over that night. Its the stuff of nightmares.
    Hope LM's wife has moved on.

    I don’t know her directly but I’ve been told that LMs wife is an extremely lovely lady

    The 2 hunters and the Carlow victim are still in touch some what. She’s no longer in Carlow and she’s not from Carlow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Ande1975


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    I don’t know her directly but I’ve been told that LMs wife is an extremely lovely lady

    The 2 hunters and the Carlow victim are still in touch some what. She’s no longer in Carlow and she’s not from Carlow




    I hope LM's wife has a better life for herself.



    I used to work with someone who knew the Carlow survivor. It only became a discussion point when he was being released. I heard she got the best of treatment and didn't let this beat her. Dealt with it with tremendous grace and strength.



    Two LM survivors and good for them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    You'd think though how did the wife not notice something if indeed he is a serial killer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Ande1975


    You'd think though how did the wife not notice something if indeed he is a serial killer.


    I would go as far as that as it hasn't been proven but what I do find strange is in a small village like Baltinglass, where he was known as a bit of a creep for staring women out. That's how the hunters recognised him. He was pointed out to the brother of a woman he was staring at who's friend was one of the hunters.


    Apparently tried it on with a friend of his wife. Begged her not to tell.



    Then again, she believed her husband.



    Have to stop thinking about this. Sleep will be hard to come by otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Sofi1


    Edgware wrote: »
    Could it be a case of her being knocked down and killed by a car. The driver panics and puts the body in the boot of the car and heads for a boghole in the Bog of Allen?

    I have often wondered if maybe Deirdre's body would be found closer to home, regardless of who took her. Her house is very near to the heart of the Bog of Allen, there are lots of wild expanses only maybe 6/7km away if you continue out the Barresttstown road. If a body went into the bog, it could be decades before it was found, if ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 635 ✭✭✭jonbravo


    I'm not seeing a serial killer...more a serial rapist.
    With intention to frame johnC, with regard Carlow women incident.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    jonbravo wrote: »
    I'm not seeing a serial killer...more a serial rapist.
    With intention to frame johnC, with regard Carlow women incident.

    He'd have killed the carlow woman if not caught.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Laois_Man wrote: »

    Well Jojo Dullard was certainly closer to LM, but the Gardai seemed to have their own ideas on who harmed her before they became aware of LM. Unlike in the DJ case where they never had a clue.

    In the case of JoJo Dullard the case was dealth with badly by AGS. There was confidential and private information given by the family to them that was released to the newspapers. It has been alleged that this was an attempt to sully the character of the victim.

    Gemma O Doherty who I see has put herself forward for the presidency has written extensively and has alleged a Garda Coverup.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/1007716663008092176

    Her family have long since maintained that they know who the killer is and that they were told by a senior investigating Garda that they knew who he was, that she had been murdered and buried in plastic with a particular Hymac digger on the land belonging to the suspected killer in Wicklow. They also claim that this guard says that the investigation would go nowhere due to political intervention.

    It is also alleged that this man was the last person to see JoJo alive as he was the man who gave her a lift from Kilcullen to Moone having been in Offaly earlier that day.

    It has also been suggested that a private investigator on behalf of the family visited this man at the time and that he had visible scratch marks on his face.

    It is also claimed that he was inconsistent with his stories to AGS in interviews at the time and that his car was professionally cleaned shortly afterwards.

    Gemma O Doherty attempted to question this man recently and her story is below.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/gemmaod1/status/871139365816291331


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