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Deirdre Jacob missing twenty years Today.

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  • #362
    smelly sock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    tabby aspreme wrote: »
    The politician, who's family member, the rumours were about was never a TD. Murphy's name will always be connected with JJD's disappearance, until the case is solved, as he was living in a rented house a few miles away from her last known sightings

    And we know what he is capable of.

    It seems likely that he is responsible for Deirdre and JoJo.


  • #363
    dense
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭dense


    Interesting lengthy article in today's IT.





    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/deirdre-jacob-murder-how-do-you-solve-a-20-year-old-crime-1.3598724?mode=amp


  • #364
    nim1bdeh38l2cw
    Closed Accounts Posts: 687 ✭✭✭nim1bdeh38l2cw


    dense wrote: »
    Interesting lengthy article in today's IT.





    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/deirdre-jacob-murder-how-do-you-solve-a-20-year-old-crime-1.3598724?mode=amp

    Given what we know already about the drunken confession to a fellow criminal, it's pretty clear who the main suspect is and the Indo didn't go off one one the other day.


  • #365
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    For those who want to know about the cases of Jojo, Deirdre and the other missing women in more detail it’s worth reading Alan Bailey’s book Missing Presumed.

    Although he can’t disclose every detail about each case or name names (which is as it should be to protect the integrity of the cases ) he gives each one a thorough rundown and it’s clear in each case what he and his fellow Gardai believe happened each woman and who is responsible.


  • #366
    AudreyHepburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    The Crowman wrote: »
    Yes, he was from Fermanagh, I remember at the time they played the recording of the phone call on the RTE news. He was tracked down pretty quickly but not sure what prosecution or any followed, I think there were mental issues.

    In his book Alan Bailey explains that the man had lost his young daughter in a car accident for which he was partly to blame and he stated he wanted to spare Deirdre’s family the same pain.

    Apparently the Jacobs were very understanding and even worried about his mental health.


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  • #367
    dense
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    Miya Fancy Squid wrote: »
    Given what we know already about the drunken confession to a fellow criminal, it's pretty clear who the main suspect is and the Indo didn't go off one one the other day.




    Yeah, I thought the same.


    Thing about the map on the passenger seat was interesting.

    If it was part of his MO maybe it should be publicised to see if there are any women he tried it on with who never copped it was him.


  • #368
    Laois_Man
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    tabby aspreme wrote: »
    The politician, who's family member, the rumours were about was never a TD.

    That makes this tale about the politician even less credible.

    I know for a fact that LM, while in the process of attacking the girl he abducted in Carlow did tell her that she wasn’t the first one. And the way he done it proved he was well practiced too. There’s no doubt whatsoever he did it before and I think Jojo was most likely. Although there’s no telling how many he did


  • #369
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,994 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    That makes this tale about the politician even less credible.

    I know for a fact that LM, while in the process of attacking the girl he abducted in Carlow did tell her that she wasn’t the first one. And the way he done it proved he was well practiced too. There’s no doubt whatsoever he did it before and I think Jojo was most likely. Although there’s no telling how many he did

    We would have to hope it is a small number and that his luck ran out with the Carlow woman (everything suggests he was about to murder her when he was disturbed). If he'd gotten away with the Carlow woman incident, he could have carried on for years with several more abductions.


  • #370
    kerry cow
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    The carlow woman was driven in her own car by lm. That does not fit with other people lifted off the road .
    In her car he must have left dna
    The whole thing does not fit for me


  • #371
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 57,077 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    kerry cow wrote: »
    The carlow woman was driven in her own car by lm. That does not fit with other people lifted off the road .
    In her car he must have left dna
    The whole thing does not fit for me

    I don't think she was taken in her own car.
    Murphy parked his beside her's and when she arrived at it he punched her and put her into his.


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  • #372
    trashcan
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    Miya Fancy Squid wrote: »
    Very close to Chalelizard

    Or Chapelizod even.


  • #373
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,196 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    trashcan wrote: »
    Or Chapelizod even.

    We always called it "Trap a Lizard".


  • #374
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    tayto lover wrote: »
    I don't think she was taken in her own car.
    Murphy parked his beside her's and when she arrived at it he punched her and put her into his.

    He was driving her car that night, he was probably going to burn it out when he was finished, it was a silver Renault 19 van that he drove.


  • #375
    nim1bdeh38l2cw
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    trashcan wrote: »
    Or Chapelizod even.

    Whoosh!


  • #376
    nim1bdeh38l2cw
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    tabby aspreme wrote: »
    He was driving her car that night, he was probably going to burn it out when he was finished, it was a silver Renault 19 van that he drove.

    Not according to this, he only drove the girl's car across the carpark : https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/how-two-men-lamping-probably-saved-a-woman-from-being-killed-1.307440%3fmode=amp


  • #377
    Strazdas
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    Miya Fancy Squid wrote: »
    Not according to this, he only drove the girl's car across the carpark : https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/how-two-men-lamping-probably-saved-a-woman-from-being-killed-1.307440%3fmode=amp

    Reading that report, it was an incredible stroke of luck the scumbag was caught in the act. He must have thought the chances of being disturbed in the mountains late at night by two men with powerful lamps was a million to one and simply couldn't happen and worse still for him that they recognised him immediately.


  • #378
    kerry cow
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    Tis terribly sad that family members have passed in so many of these cases of missing people , with out finding their loved ones .
    Many many people effected by these bastards .
    I hope someday to hear the good news of break throughs.
    The people holding information will go to hell ,if theres such a place but can redeem themselves now by helping to solve these murders .
    If you are reading this , do the right thing and help .it will give you relief and freedom .


  • #379
    beertons
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    Will someone pm me the name of the TD. I'm lost.


  • #380
    dense
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    Miya Fancy Squid wrote: »
    Not according to this, he only drove the girl's car across the carpark : https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/how-two-men-lamping-probably-saved-a-woman-from-being-killed-1.307440%3fmode=amp




    Did that lady ever go public, or give any interview?


  • #381
    freshpopcorn
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    dense wrote: »
    Did that lady ever go public, or give any interview?

    I never heard of her name being made public or her doing an interview.
    Details of her victim impact statement may have being released tough.


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  • #382
    Laois_Man
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    dense wrote: »
    Did that lady ever go public, or give any interview?


    I know the lady's name - just did a quick Google with and without the name "Larry Murphy" and nothing in relation to it comes up. I was pretty sure it wouldn't anyway.

    beertons wrote: »
    Will someone pm me the name of the TD. I'm lost.

    Not much point when people say he was never a TD. I'm pretty sure all this stuff about a politician is bollox anyway!


  • #383
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Miya Fancy Squid wrote: »
    Not according to this, he only drove the girl's car across the carpark : https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/how-two-men-lamping-probably-saved-a-woman-from-being-killed-1.307440%3fmode=amp

    My mistake, I thought the Punto was her car, Renault 19 van was what he drove to work


  • #384
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,658 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    Laois_Man wrote: »
    I know the lady's name - just did a quick Google with and without the name "Larry Murphy" and nothing in relation to it comes up. I was pretty sure it wouldn't anyway.




    Not much point when people say he was never a TD. I'm pretty sure all this stuff about a politician is bollox anyway!

    Politicians son gave her a lift to Moone, she called her family from there.


  • #385
    B.A._Baracus
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    20 years and no one came forward with information as the op said?

    Sadly that most likely means the only one person who knows what happened to her is the person responsible. Probably reveal it on their death bed. Supposed to forgive them too? Yeah right.


  • #386
    dense
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭dense


    tabby aspreme wrote: »
    Politicians son gave her a lift to Moone, she called her family from there.


    You're talking about JoJo?


    The poster youre replying to isnt....:confused:
    They're talking about the lady Murphy attacked.


  • #387
    nim1bdeh38l2cw
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    dense wrote: »
    You're talking about JoJo?


    The poster youre replying to isnt....:confused:
    They're talking about the lady Murphy attacked.

    The second half of the post refers to JoJo


  • #388
    kerry cow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,390 ✭✭✭kerry cow


    With deirdre , its hard to believe we have footage of her in town and a withness see her at her entrance in home .then gone .
    All so strange


  • #389
    smelly sock
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    kerry cow wrote: »
    With deirdre , its hard to believe we have footage of her in town and a withness see her at her entrance in home .then gone .
    All so strange

    Which could lead you to believe that at the entrance of her home she got into the car of someone she knew. Hardly a stranger. Otherwise she was taken in broad daylight against her will. Murphy seemed to be a bit more calculating than that.


  • #390
    Laois_Man
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    tabby aspreme wrote: »
    Politicians son gave her a lift to Moone, she called her family from there.

    That means he dropped Jojo to Moone, decided to turn around and go back to pick her up a second time?!? On one hand that seems implausible, on the other hand it makes sense Becs of the way she abruptly ended the phone call with her flat mate in Kilkenny saying ‘I have to go, I have a lift’ (or words to that effect). Who else in Moone would have known the girl in the phone box was looking for a lift or who else would she have recognized as someone who was there to give her one. Unless she spoke to someone else just before entering the phone box.

    Nothing is as implausible tho as this tale about the father being a well connected politician causing X number of people to all work together to get him off. It’s ridiculous


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  • #391
    Laois_Man
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    smelly sock wrote: »
    Which could lead you to believe that at the entrance of her home she got into the car of someone she knew. Hardly a stranger. Otherwise she was taken in broad daylight against her will. Murphy seemed to be a bit more calculating than that.

    It has never been confirmed that DJ didn’t enter the house and then leave again as far as I know?


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