Deirdre Jacob missing twenty years Today.

2cool4school wrote: »

great to see this thread heading the same way the Trevor Deely one went - nonsense theories from amateur detectives, barely coherent posts repeating info already posted by someone who can actually string a sentence together, misleading contributions from the terminally confused or those out to muddy the water on purpose, and endless misspelling of the names of the disappeared.

presumably the offensive posts about the victim will be along any minute to guarantee the lock. I'll be surprised if the thread lasts through the weekend.

Steady on, friend: we are only discussing stuff that has already been printed in newspapers and the media. Not inventing fairytales.

And in more than three hundred posts, nobody has said anything remotely offensive about Deirdre Jacob or any other tragic victim.

Jojo Dullard is re-emerging in the news today also with details about the ex-girlfriend of the family's main suspect who wrote a letter to the family in Kilkenny saying she believed he was capable of murder

What I can't make out from the article is if this letter is the only reason he's the main suspect to them - or if there is other, more significant evidence about it.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/jo-jo-dullard-missing-mystery-13092669

xalot wrote: »

According to that article:

Fresh information from builders who knew Larry Murphy was enough for cold case cops to upgrade Deirdre Jacob’s case to murder, now Jo Jo’s family hope the same could happen in their case.

what information could a builder have that they would have kept to themselves for 20 years.....it's not like it's a family member not wanting to upset his mam...

I'm guessing the information (which presumably is merely confirmation that LM was working with them in Newbridge in the days arounds DJ's disappearance) was there a while and the cold case review team are only focusing in on it now. If it's true at all.

Remember, LMs presence in Newbridge at that time wouldn't have occurred to anyone as being of significance to DJ's disappearance until at least about 3 years later when he was all over the news over the Carlow abduction/rapes/attempted murder case. Perhaps it has been much more recent than that where builder(s) found something or remembered something that verifies the dates he was there.

dense wrote: »

Interesting thread elsewhere about the missing lady.
Very sad reading.

We forget what the families go through when we can switch off when we want, thwy can't.


http://s10.zetaboards.com/usedtobedoe/topic/1007948/1/



Historic:




https://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-60222622.html

That's old news and has long since been proven to have been a hoax.

dense wrote: »

It's new news to me and there's a lot more than that report linked to on the site.



What happened to the hoax caller?
Was he prosecuted for making them?

Sorry I hadn't intended to appear snidey.
This appeared in the newspapers earlier this week......

Mr Jacob and his wife Bernie have issued previous appeals for information several times over the last two decades.

They told The Irish Times in an interview a number of years ago that one of the most difficult periods of the last 20 years was when a hoax caller contacted gardabout 10 days after her disappearance.

Based in Co Fermanagh, the man first called the Leinster Leader newspaper, in Kildare, and then several Garda stations. He said he gave a lift to a girl from Clane village, in Co Kildare, to Carrickmacross, in Co Monaghan.

Following the calls the search in Co Kildare was stopped and the operation diverted to Monaghan and Fermanagh. The family travelled north based on the information from the hoaxer.

At the request of the family the tape of his calls was released and played on RT “Within half an hour they had so many calls they knew who he was,” said Michael.

“They said he had had a tragedy in his own family, and this is why he had done this,” said Bernie Jacob. “I find it impossible to reconcile that, having gone through a tragedy himself, he would impose one on us.”

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/deirdre-jacob-murder-garda%C3%AD-focusing-on-a-chief-suspect-1.3595773

From my recollection, the hoaxer was deemed to be suffering from 'emotional issues' and was not charged

goat2 wrote: »

Irish times today.

Gardaí are also examining a chief suspect for the crime – a man in his 50s who has been known to them for many years.

The suspect, who is abroad at present, travelled in Carlow, Kildare, Wicklow and Dublin as part of his job .

https://tinyurl.com/ybymxunk

Well well well. That is extremely interesting - a wild card enters the case.

Previously known to the Polis but not the subject of general gossip.

And the borders of Laois/Carlow isn't such a big area - it's mostly the river Barrow.
That's a very rural area: one might hazard that the person's job was selling something to the agricultural community. (A wild guess, I admit it)

Let us hope that the people known to this "suspect" do decide to comb their memories and produce some tangible information!

Day Lewin wrote: »

Previously known to the Polis but not the subject of general gossip.

what makes you think that?

I just read it as the long standing suspect

smelly sock wrote: »

Its hardly enough that Murphy was working in newbridge to upgrade it to murder.

Sounds strange alright. There has to be more to it than just that he was in the area to justify the upgrade. Its been known he was in the area for a long time.

dense wrote: »

What's REALLY interesting is that KRW Law is the same firm which is now connected to the Mary Boyle case, representing Mary's sister.
Her sister, like Jo Jo's, also alleges that the Mary Boyle disappearance wasn't properly investigated because the alleged suspect had close political connections.


Two missing people both case investigations allegedly stymied by a refusal by Gardai to step on the toes of those politically connected?


Coincidence or conspiracy theory?


Sorry for going OT in this thread, but the KRW Law connection is interesting.

KRW Law in Belfast specialise in human rights and cases of miscarriages of justice so it is not surprising that they represent both Mary Boyles sister and Jo Dollards family. They also represent the Hooded Men as well as other victims of the war up north. KRW Law are the type of law firm people go to when all other avenues are exhausted, they take on these types of cases that other firms would pass up on.

Im not sure where the allegation of the political cover up in Jojo Dollards case comes from but in Mary Boyle the allegation comes from two retired Gardai in Donegal who said they were told not to persue the main suspect who is a Fianna Fail activist. The allegation is that Sean McEniff the local FF councillor rang the Garda station and told them to lay off the main suspect (who is still alive today and living in the area).

I really doubt you can upgrade an investigation for a shot in the dark

Example: Phillip Kearns bag was found in a lane days later he was a child. Rumours that peado Eamon Cooke said something about it on his death bed and thats still a missing persons invesitgation

smelly sock wrote: »

We have discussed it here before. It could well be a shot in the dark by Gardai. After spending 12 months going over every shred of evidence they feel they have nothing to lose and are hoping someone comes forward with something.

But, telling her family, it is now a murder inquiry does not fit that explanation, they had always hoped and prayed she would return and had a hope of that, now that is wiped, I think someone must have said something they kept quiet about with all of these years,

Like even one of the other missing woman FP i think. They seem fairly sure its an ex that lives in canada. yet thats not been upgraded?