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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    It's because the lactose gets broken down in two other types of sugar, IIRC.

    Also, it's probably made from milk sourced in the Continent, where the grass is different (less rain, etc) so it gives the milk a different flavour.

    Tesco used to have UHT milk, too, and Supervalu, too, in the Polish food section. If you can, check the Eastern European and Asian shops, too, they probably stock it.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    By the way, if you've room for it, milk freezes very well, so you could get fresh milk, too, divide it up into smaller quantities, and freeze it. Just remember to shake it well before you use it because its water content tends to separate when you defrost it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    New Home wrote: »
    By the way, if you've room for it, milk freezes very well, so you could get fresh milk, too, divide it up into smaller quantities, and freeze it. Just remember to shake it well before you use it because its water content tends to separate when you defrost it.

    I never managed to get it to be liquid again...I use only low fat so that may be it. It is 2 weeks between my grocery deliveries and I am thus limited.

    The modern dried milk is great too;; nothing like it used to be.

    But the lactose free is ????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,524 ✭✭✭phormium


    For convenience re shopping etc as my father cannot shop for himself any longer we bought a small under counter freezer (second hand for 50 quid on a local buy/sell page) and fill it with milk/bread/spreads/orange juice, the staples that are used every day. It has been the handiest thing ever, his home help checks each day and takes out whatever is needed to thaw.

    He uses low fat milk and it freezes and thaws fine, he actually drinks mugs of milk and sees no difference at this stage, I don't know when he last actually had fresh milk :)

    I freeze skim milk myself and it's fine too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    phormium wrote: »
    For convenience re shopping etc as my father cannot shop for himself any longer we bought a small under counter freezer (second hand for 50 quid on a local buy/sell page) and fill it with milk/bread/spreads/orange juice, the staples that are used every day. It has been the handiest thing ever, his home help checks each day and takes out whatever is needed to thaw.

    He uses low fat milk and it freezes and thaws fine, he actually drinks mugs of milk and sees no difference at this stage, I don't know when he last actually had fresh milk :)

    I freeze skim milk myself and it's fine too.

    glad about that, but it just never worked for me and I have no idea why, and that is fine too. I do not have room in the freezer for eg milk as space is filled with eg chicken for dog and cats and my food takes second place.. a tiny second place. I like the dried as it does not cool the coffee.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,111 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    My mate is in Japan atm and keeps on sending me food photos via whatsapp. Look at this work of art.

    I had the pleasure of being there 2 years ago thanks to a boards deal. I'd go back tomorrow if any deals came up again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    You can see the effect of the hot summer - onions are getting very small in the shops.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,859 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    But the scallions are huge!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    But the scallions are huge!

    Maybe flown in from Kenya? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,859 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    My scallions come from 5k down the road. ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,345 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    My scallions come from 5k down the road. ;)

    Mine come from my back garden. Or did, til I ate the last of them on Tuesday. And yes, they were hyoo-idge. Raging they're all gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,859 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    I've stopped growing my own scallions. The damn cats use them as beds despite any number of deterrents put it place. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I've stopped growing my own scallions. The damn cats use them as beds despite any number of deterrents put it place. :(

    That's funny, mine always squash any broccoli I'm trying to grow! Never any of the other stuff, though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,859 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Maybe I should grow broccoli next to my scallions they might sleep in there instead? :)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    We’ve had pantry moths for the last few days. When I first saw one, we went through and chucked everything flour-related that wasn’t in a sealed jar (throwing out loads of good stuff). Next day, more moths. More things thrown out, surfaces cleaned and sanitised.

    More moths.

    More things thrown out as desperation increased.

    Today, I kept killing moths. Literally all that was left was sealed packages of things that I didn’t think they’d be interested in that I’d also already checked. Finally, I pulled everything out and went through it all AGAIN. I got to a never-opened package of popcorn kernels and gave it a visual once-over. Grand. Gave it a squeeze and heard a hiss. Happened again. I poked and prodded and finally, I saw moth larvae in there. The absolute mofos had managed to eat their way into bloody popcorn kernels!

    Pantry moths are a nightmare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    God, that’s sounds awful!

    Just Googled them there. They’re also known as Indian Meal Moths and as the name would suggest they like their cereals!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    I'd never heard of pantry moths so I googled them too. I'll be forever on the lookout for them now - ick!


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    You can get sticky pheromones traps for them, too, but I found that the best way to contain them is to put everything (including flour, pasta, rice, biscuits, chocolate, breakfast cereal, raisins, dry pet food, etc) is sealed glass jars (those with a rubber seal are the best). If the foodstuff is already contaminated by eggs, then the infestation will be contained by the glass jar, and it will stop them from spreading to the rest of the food. But, if you think the moths are bad, wait until you come across tiny, tiny beetles... They're the size of a pin head, and they get absolutely everywhere. Both moths and "beetles" thrive in temperatures of 25°C and 75% humidity, so the hot summer definitely didn't help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    ^^^^^^^ :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,387 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Faith wrote: »
    Today, I kept killing moths.
    Dealz do a tennis racket bug zapper for 1.50, takes 2 AA batteries

    http://www.dealz.ie/electric-insect-terminator

    Works great on moths.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    You'll have to keep the button pressed until they explode or burn, though, or you'll have to squash them, otherwise it only stuns them. I speak from experience. Ditto for mosquitoes and flies. And if you touch the metal grid, you'd get a fairly sharp snap yourself (I also speak from experience :o).


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,661 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    We had them once before, when we lived in Vancouver. I didn’t know what they were then either. I just thought it was a coincidence that little moths kept appearing on the door of a certain cupboard!

    Both times we had an open bag of cornmeal, which I think may be very attractive to them. I’m surprised they could eat the popcorn kernels, but it’s corn again I suppose.
    New Home wrote: »
    You can get sticky pheromones traps for them, too, but I found that the best way to contain them is to put everything (including flour, pasta, rice, biscuits, chocolate, breakfast cereal, raisins, dry pet food, etc) is sealed glass jars (those with a rubber seal are the best). If the foodstuff is already contaminated by eggs, then the infestation will be contained by the glass jar, and it will stop them from spreading to the rest of the food.

    Yep, we’re off to buy a lot more kilner jars soon!
    New Home wrote: »
    You'll have to keep the button pressed until they explode or burn, though, or you'll have to squash them, otherwise it only stuns them. I speak from experience. Ditto for mosquitoes and flies. And if you touch the metal grid, you'd get a fairly sharp snap yourself (I also speak from experience :o).

    We have one of those tennis rackets but these moths would be quite small and not worth the effort. They’re very easy to squash. But my hubby has revealed quite a sadistic side to himself with flies - he’s getting great enjoyment from keeping that button pressed!

    (The gobshyte also zapped himself on purpose “to see what it felt like” :D)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Faith wrote: »
    We have one of those tennis rackets but these moths would be quite small and not worth the effort. They’re very easy to squash.


    I find they fly around the place from 3PM onwards until the morning, and especially so if the room is dark, and they tend to land somewhere as soon as you turn on the light.

    Faith wrote: »
    But my hubby has revealed quite a sadistic side to himself with flies - he’s getting great enjoyment from keeping that button pressed!

    (The gobshyte also zapped himself on purpose “to see what it felt like” :D)


    :rolleyes::D Kids, eh?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,981 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    New Home wrote: »
    You can get sticky pheromones traps for them, too, but I found that the best way to contain them is to put everything (including flour, pasta, rice, biscuits, chocolate, breakfast cereal, raisins, dry pet food, etc) is sealed glass jars (those with a rubber seal are the best). If the foodstuff is already contaminated by eggs, then the infestation will be contained by the glass jar, and it will stop them from spreading to the rest of the food. But, if you think the moths are bad, wait until you come across tiny, tiny beetles... They're the size of a pin head, and they get absolutely everywhere. Both moths and "beetles" thrive in temperatures of 25°C and 75% humidity, so the hot summer definitely didn't help.

    I now have to throw out all my food :/


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Nah, just cook it, if it seems clear:

    1. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger
    and
    2. Extra proteins for freeeeeeeee!!!!

    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    New Home wrote: »
    Nah, just cook it, if it seems clear:

    1. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger
    and
    2. Extra proteins for freeeeeeeee!!!!

    :D

    Please do not consider this as food safety advice! :)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    The other thing that is NOT recommended AT ALL, unless you want your kitchen to explode, is to microwave dry flour (in particular) or other cereals (more generally) on their own. Always add water/another liquid first, and stir very well.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Please do not consider this as food safety advice! :)


    Awh, party pooper! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,360 ✭✭✭Gloomtastic!


    New Home wrote: »
    The other thing that is NOT recommended AT ALL, unless you want your kitchen to explode, is to microwave dry flour (in particular) or other cereals (more generally) on their own. Always add water/another liquid first, and stir very well.

    Oh sweet mother, have you been drinking? :rolleyes:


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 79,754 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Oh sweet mother, have you been drinking? :rolleyes:


    No. I'm like this when I'm sober. :)


    (I was serious about NOT microwaving flour https://recipes.howstuffworks.com/tools-and-techniques/question150.htm)


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