Better Call Saul Spoilers

munster87 · 14-08-2018 10:48PM

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Uncle Jack!!

Wow look at those tiny hands

FFred · 14-08-2018 10:51PM

Let all us Breaking Bad fanatics give praise to this show for keeping the magic alive!

Love it.

gormdubhgorm · 14-08-2018 10:54PM

munster87 wrote: »

Wow look at those tiny hands

Handy for printer jams.

ButtersSuki · 14-08-2018 10:58PM

Great episode. I repeat what I said after last week's show that the pace has definitely picked up now; 2 episodes in and already we're moving substantially faster than any point in Seasons 1-3. I'll throw the spoiler alerts on for those who haven't seen it yet.

Highlight was

Kim unleashing on Howard. Though she's giving out about Howard's insensitive handling of his suggestion that Chuck committed suicide, it's for me more about Kim finally being able to confront Howard as an equal. It's also the first time we've really seen Howard grimace and be as uncomfortable as he looked in any scene to date. Great performances from Kim and Howard in this scene.

Also my thesis on

Gus being furious at Nacho as he wanted to be the one who decides when and how Hector dies was proven correct just a few seconds into the show. When I was thinking about this more since last week, I was thinking of the Face Off Episode of Breaking Bad and Gus's "Nooooo!" was as much about the realisation this was being taken away from him as much as the realisation he too was about to die.

Gus also dialed it up a few notches in this episode; from his stern dismissal of Lydia's concerns, to the 'removal" of Nacho's colleague. Nacho's acting in this episode was excellent too, particularly his body language and facial expressions as he was feeling the noose tighten with gus, and his unease at Hector's "recovery". I'll be very sad to see him go - I actually thought for a while that he might come to an end in this episode as a "sh*t just got real" moment.

Looking forward to next week.

beardo81 · 14-08-2018 11:37PM

A really really excellent episode. Kim and Howard's scene was excellent, really powerful, and then what an ending.

I think we are in for the best season yet ðŸ˜€

noodler · 14-08-2018 11:41PM

Penn wrote: »

The guy at the start is the same doctor Jesse brings Gus and Mike to in Mexico towards the end of Season 4. He's Gus' doctor. I think Gus had already figured out Nacho was responsible and how (Victor watched Nacho throw away the pills at the end of the last episode). The doctor was just checking on Hector's condition for himself, because Gus trusts him.

I thought he did this (threw the pills away) when Gus wasn't watching?

I know it's not so important how he knows, just wondering if we are supposed to realise it specifically or gus just deux ex machina'd it!

RobbingBandit · 14-08-2018 11:42PM

I was expecting Jimmy to interview with Gus for one of his potential part time jobs, the way he deconstructed the printer guys was sick, I really want to hear what's in that letter Chuck left it will totally be a **** you Jimmy you made me do this type thing or a script for City Slickers 3 the map to Chucks gold.

15-08-2018 12:05AM

noodler wrote: »

I thought he did this (threw the pills away) when Gus wasn't watching?

I know it's not so important how he knows, just wondering if we are supposed to realise it specifically or gus just deux ex machina'd it!

Nacho was followed and seen throwing them into a river

noodler · 15-08-2018 12:12AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nacho was followed and seen throwing them into a river

Completely forgot about that.

Still, must have been some detailed hi res camera your man had to see that they were pills from hundreds of yards away in the dark!

-=al=- · 15-08-2018 12:17AM

I'm not sure if Jimmy wanted the job, but it made him realise what he is capable of and he isn't gona settle for some sales job when he's good at something else. He's practicing his skills while keeping Kim easy.

Really good episode. I just love the way it's shot and it's silences during the scenes are great too.

Give Seehorn an award for the acting, she was really good in that Howard scene!

15-08-2018 12:19AM

noodler wrote: »

Completely forgot about that.

Still, must have been some detailed hi res camera your man had to see that they were pills from hundreds of yards away in the dark!

Yeah I agree. There is an element of "Gus is just that good, he hires the best" to it all. I'm happy to go along with that. Similar to how Mike is so good at what he does.

De Bhál · 15-08-2018 09:31AM

noodler wrote: »

I thought he did this (threw the pills away) when Gus wasn't watching?

I know it's not so important how he knows, just wondering if we are supposed to realise it specifically or gus just deux ex machina'd it!

I took it that Gus had a hunch from the time Hector collapsed, due to Nacho looking a bit sheepish, and then had his hunch confirmed when he got the report from the John Hopkins consultant.

I had forgotten about the scene on the bridge which I just took at the time to show that they were being watched.

Last nights episode was great;

Jimmy's interview and the faux shocked face he made when the interviewer made reference to the fact that particular copier was used to print counterfeit money.

Kim giving Howard a dressing down.

The drug collection scene.

RobbingBandit · 15-08-2018 09:39AM

Jimmy never fails to see the opportunity in a situation the collectibles that the printer manager has dismissed as junk are worth thousands that eye for detail is needed in a scumbag lawyers arsenal.

Boom_Bap · 15-08-2018 09:44AM

noodler wrote: »

Completely forgot about that.

Still, must have been some detailed hi res camera your man had to see that they were pills from hundreds of yards away in the dark!

It probably doesn't matter if the pills where seen or not, the fact that he was there and dumping stuff in the river is probably enough. Someone 'innocent' wouldn't need to hide or get rid of anything.

I loved the printer job interview and then the sales pitch. He also beautifully avoided answering why he was no longer a lawyer.

I absolutely adored Mike scenes in the previous episode where he was checking the security out. Casually opening the donut box for the guy talking about boxing was hilarious.

This show is incredible.

EDIT: Uncle Jack with normal sized hands appearing was also great

De Bhál · 15-08-2018 10:06AM

Was that the first time we saw Kim and Jimmy 'get it on'...I can't remember them ever getting close before.

Their relationship always seemed a bit distant but maybe more true to real life than the usual TV relationships.

FrancieBrady · 15-08-2018 10:41AM

De Bhál wrote: »

Was that the first time we saw Kim and Jimmy 'get it on'...I can't remember them ever getting close before.

Their relationship always seemed a bit distant but maybe more true to real life than the usual TV relationships.

Has anyone else tried to work out how Jimmy/Saul is gonna lose Kim along the way?
I find their relationship and where it is going, fascinating.

Hector Savage · 15-08-2018 11:11AM

Great episode, wow you don't mess with Gus - allthough I did find it weird that he was there, he;s supposed to be so cautious you'd think he'd stay away from a scene like that - then again it makes better TV.

Who is this uncle jack ?

Boom_Bap · 15-08-2018 11:34AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Has anyone else tried to work out how Jimmy/Saul is gonna lose Kim along the way?
I find their relationship and where it is going, fascinating.

I've found that it's best not to try figure it out and just watch it unfold

Hector Savage wrote: »

Great episode, wow you don't mess with Gus - allthough I did find it weird that he was there, he;s supposed to be so cautious you'd think he'd stay away from a scene like that - then again it makes better TV.

Who is this uncle jack ?

The actor that played the head of the printer firm that interviewed Jimmy, he plays a role in the show It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia called Uncle Jack.

15-08-2018 12:49PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Has anyone else tried to work out how Jimmy/Saul is gonna lose Kim along the way?
I find their relationship and where it is going, fascinating.

I thought he reaction to Howard's confession was the beginning of the end of them, but this episode went another direction.

JohnK · 15-08-2018 01:37PM

Boom_Bap wrote: »

It probably doesn't matter if the pills where seen or not, the fact that he was there and dumping stuff in the river is probably enough. Someone 'innocent' wouldn't need to hide or get rid of anything.

To be fair though, he is a drug dealing criminal so its safe to assume he'd occasionally have need to dump some incriminating evidence

FrancieBrady · 15-08-2018 01:52PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I thought he reaction to Howard's confession was the beginning of the end of them, but this episode went another direction.

Yeh, me too. I thought he had disgusted her. But Kim is proving to be quite a gal.

Maybe

he will get caught stealing the figurines

and that will be the end?

Tony EH · 15-08-2018 03:00PM

Great show. Still the best thing on TV.

Fucking hate Howard Hamlin. :mad:

optogirl · 15-08-2018 03:06PM

Tony EH wrote: »

Great show. Still the best thing on TV.

Fucking hate Howard Hamlin. :mad:

I only see Buzz Lightyear

ButtersSuki · 15-08-2018 06:02PM

By chance I found a podcast on itunes today (came up as a "you might be interested in this") called "Better Call Saul Insider" and it seems to feature Vince Gilligan, Peter Gould, Tom Schnauz (Writer) and Robin Sweet (Producer). Not sure if they're on every week now but it's a weekly show after every episode. Haven't listened yet but I assume I'm not the only one who'd be interested in this.

https://itunes.apple.com/ie/podcast/better-call-saul-insider-podcast/id966297954?mt=2

2 Scoops · 15-08-2018 06:05PM

Does anyone else think Nacho's actor is a bit weak, can't really put my finger on it but seems overly timid or something every scene. Doesn't really fit the supposed character.

Show is amazing overall, only new series I'm following.

take everything · 15-08-2018 06:10PM

2 Scoops wrote: »

Does anyone else think Nacho's actor is a bit weak, can't really put my finger on it but seems overly timid or something every scene. Doesn't really fit the supposed character.

Show is amazing overall, only new series I'm following.

Don't think so tbh.
He's conflicted about what he's doing so maybe that's what's coming across.

ButtersSuki · 15-08-2018 06:40PM

2 Scoops wrote: »

Does anyone else think Nacho's actor is a bit weak, can't really put my finger on it but seems overly timid or something every scene. Doesn't really fit the supposed character.

Show is amazing overall, only new series I'm following.

No. No. No. No. No.

Say Your Number · 15-08-2018 06:43PM

Given that Nacho's father is an honest hard working man, and is trying to get him to leave that life behind.

Breaking Bad

After Fring's 'You're mine now' at the end of the last episode the poor lad is f*cked

ILikeBoats · 15-08-2018 06:57PM

ButtersSuki wrote: »

By chance I found a podcast on itunes today (came up as a "you might be interested in this") called "Better Call Saul Insider" and it seems to feature Vince Gilligan, Peter Gould, Tom Schnauz (Writer) and Robin Sweet (Producer). Not sure if they're on every week now but it's a weekly show after every episode. Haven't listened yet but I assume I'm not the only one who'd be interested in this.

https://itunes.apple.com/ie/podcast/better-call-saul-insider-podcast/id966297954?mt=2

Yep on every week after the show. Gives great insight into the episode

FrancieBrady · 15-08-2018 07:57PM

2 Scoops wrote: »

Does anyone else think Nacho's actor is a bit weak, can't really put my finger on it but seems overly timid or something every scene. Doesn't really fit the supposed character.

Show is amazing overall, only new series I'm following.

I personally think that he is brilliant as a conflicted soul, caught up in ever deepening circles. The scenes with his father are brilliant in that respect, neither willing to back down or even express themselves fully. He does fear very well too. His realisation of the mess he was in in the last episode was very well done.

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