Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

jr86 wrote: »

I'd say Kilkenny will get FOTY this year but a good final could swing it for Fenton, assuming a Dublin win

Anyhow I'd be happy if we could give a good account of ourselves in the league and regain the Connacht Title. Another back door run next year and it'll be good night again

It may well be a last hurrah for Rochford so it may not be in his best interests to bring in new guys yet, he may well look to get one last commitment from the senior members of the panel

With the back room team gone it I’ll be hard to see where they go from here.

What has O Neill and fallon got that the other lads didn’t.
Was O’Neill mixed up with the u21sa few yrs ago?

a change of ideas in the backroom might be just what we need.

yop wrote: »

So he is staying now. End of the rumors.

So what does he need to do different? I kinda agree with the Clarke statement, BUT the "You had one job to do" issue of Cluxtons brain fart on Saturday shows you can be a mighty man to kick a ball out, but if you can't clean out high balls you are in bother, AKA Hennelly.
So do we need a better kicker-outer or a better shot stopper and cleaner-outer??????

Who's out there in club football that lads think should come in, I'm not close to it this year so have lost track.
If you got the job in the morning..


Dubs level above everyone else, still vulnerable under the high ball, but the running, lines, shot selection is yrs ahead of everyone else. JACK McCaffrey was superb, POTY already? What Costello needs to do to win a starting place is head scratching, that said though, Gavin has his introductions down to a fine art. Hats off to Gavin, he has reduced the overall age of the team in the 12 months of their last AI win.
As for our 2 bleating neighbors, both have had their chances to "show Mayo how its done" now in the league finals, qualifiers and AI semi finals and have not been able to go anywhere near. Reality check there.


Rumors of Fallon, O'Neill coming into the backroom.

I’m not in the county so I have no idea what is happening in club football but on the face of it Mayo could do with the following.

Goalkeeper – Clarke is fine there for a while with O’Malley getting some league game time hopefully.

Full back - Assuming Harrison and O’ Donoughe are corners for the present and future then a full back is needed.

Half back – Keegan and Paddy Durkan are obvious starters here but Boyle is running out of steam and may not have many years left as a starter. Do you use Coen as a half back or try to find a new one?

Midfield- To be fair two new midfields are required. Parson’s injury is a concern obviously and Seamus O’ Shea is not getting any younger, he like Boyle may not have much left. Coen may be an option but in reality it’s an area Mayo have not had any new blood in in a long long time.
They need two midfielders

Forwards – Plenty of guys available around here but how many will turn out to be top class is hard to know. Andy will probably play the role as an impact sub going forward, and the only other guy getting on in years in Kevin McLoughlin. The two O’Connors. Doherty and Aiden O’ Shea are still in their prime and top class players. But you are hoping for a step up from Hanley, James Durkan and the likes of Loftus could do with cementing his place. I’m not sure about Regan, again injury has curtailed him.
I’m not convinced he is starter material.

Then on the bench you have at least the likes of good seasoned guys like Boyle, Andy, Higgins and Vaughan.

So that’s – a full back, a half back, two midfielders and maybe one in the six forwards.

Anyone ?

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I’m not in the county so I have no idea what is happening in club football but on the face of it Mayo could do with the following.

Goalkeeper – Clarke is fine there for a while with O’Malley getting some league game time hopefully.

Full back - Assuming Harrison and O’ Donoughe are corners for the present and future then a full back is needed.

Half back – Keegan and Paddy Durkan are obvious starters here but Boyle is running out of steam and may not have many years left as a starter. Do you use Coen as a half back or try to find a new one?

Midfield- To be fair two new midfields are required. Parson’s injury is a concern obviously and Seamus O’ Shea is not getting any younger, he like Boyle may not have much left. Coen may be an option but in reality it’s an area Mayo have not had any new blood in in a long long time.
They need two midfielders

Forwards – Plenty of guys available around here but how many will turn out to be top class is hard to know. Andy will probably play the role as an impact sub going forward, and the only other guy getting on in years in Kevin McLoughlin. The two O’Connors. Doherty and Aiden O’ Shea are still in their prime and top class players. But you are hoping for a step up from Hanley, James Durkan and the likes of Loftus could do with cementing his place. I’m not sure about Regan, again injury has curtailed him.
I’m not convinced he is starter material.

Then on the bench you have at least the likes of good seasoned guys like Boyle, Andy, Higgins and Vaughan.

So that’s – a full back, a half back, two midfielders and maybe one in the six forwards.

Anyone ?

Replacing one third of first team players in one swoop, especially in a Div 1 campaign, would be nigh impossible imho.
I can see where you are coming from and the need for them, but if they are around then You would wonder why Rochford hasn`t them already in the panel at the very least.
I cannot see it happening really. This is in all probability Rochford`s last year and managers in their last year do not tend to experiment too much unless it is forced upon them due to retirements.
They tend to stick with the tried and trusted.
That can be a blessing in that he knows his team inside and out for a final push, or a curse in that when he goes the new man in is left with a major rebuild required.

seligehgit wrote: »

Patrick O Malley is no certainty for the number one spot,much to prove yet.

Matthew Flanagan would be my first option to try out.

Not exactly flaitiulach with full backs??

Shane Nally surely deserves an extended run in the half back come next year's league.Is Akram worth a run?

An injury free Matthew Ruane will hopefully be given the opportunity to step up to the plate.Can definitely see Diarmuid slotting into the middle long term.

Hoping the likes of Cathal Horan,Ryan O Donoghue,Tommy Conroy,Conor Diskin,Ross Egan and the two Westport half backs Pat Lambert and Oisin McLaughlin can produce more nuggets of quality into the medium term.

Throw Slingermann (sp) into the goalkeeper mix if he is back.

I'd agree with Diarmuid slotting in at midfield.

The last ones you mentioned are very young so there is still a while to go before they are potential seniors, and that's a problem I have with the new u20 grade, there is too much of a empty gap to senior. Only the really really developed or talented guys can make that a quick transition.

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I’m not in the county so I have no idea what is happening in club football but on the face of it Mayo could do with the following.

Goalkeeper – Clarke is fine there for a while with O’Malley getting some league game time hopefully.

Full back - Assuming Harrison and O’ Donoughe are corners for the present and future then a full back is needed.

Half back – Keegan and Paddy Durkan are obvious starters here but Boyle is running out of steam and may not have many years left as a starter. Do you use Coen as a half back or try to find a new one?

Midfield- To be fair two new midfields are required. Parson’s injury is a concern obviously and Seamus O’ Shea is not getting any younger, he like Boyle may not have much left. Coen may be an option but in reality it’s an area Mayo have not had any new blood in in a long long time.
They need two midfielders

Forwards – Plenty of guys available around here but how many will turn out to be top class is hard to know. Andy will probably play the role as an impact sub going forward, and the only other guy getting on in years in Kevin McLoughlin. The two O’Connors. Doherty and Aiden O’ Shea are still in their prime and top class players. But you are hoping for a step up from Hanley, James Durkan and the likes of Loftus could do with cementing his place. I’m not sure about Regan, again injury has curtailed him.
I’m not convinced he is starter material.

Then on the bench you have at least the likes of good seasoned guys like Boyle, Andy, Higgins and Vaughan.

So that’s – a full back, a half back, two midfielders and maybe one in the six forwards.

Anyone ?

Good post. My take would be the following:

Goalkeeper - Clarke almost certainly number 1 for championship next year but we need to identify his successor and give them 2 or 3 league games. Paddy O'Malley looks to be a good prospect. He's well over 6 foot and has a huge kickout. Needs to work on kickout accuracy and shot stopping IMO. Michael Schlingermann is back playing with Kiltimagh as well I believe.

Backs - We had 4 over 30's here against Kildare so there needs to be changes but I think we have good replacements here if I'm honest. Harrison will be back and O'Donoghue should have seen more game time this year anyway. I'd play them 2 plus Caolan Crowe in the full back line as of now but would like to see Seamus Cunniffe have go too. HB line will be Keegan, Durcan and another. Shairoze could be an option here or maybe James McCormack from Claremorris. Obviously within the squad we could still use Higgins, Boyle, Vaughan or Coen.

Midfield - Badly need to find a new player here but not sure if there is anyone out there. Mattie Ruane has had injury troubles the last couple of years but would be worth trying. Jordan Flynn looks a similar style player to Seamie O'Shea but he's not really a runner for next year with the ban. I think Diarmuid will be played here predominantly now. Aidan has had many good games here as well, could he be the partner?

Forwards - McLoughlin, Doherty and Cillian are still in their prime so they'll have big roles to play. Andy was the focal point of so much of our attacks the last few years and won't be easily replaced. I've always liked Brian Reape. He's a ball winning scoring forward. Otherwise, I'd be looking for Loftus and J Durcan to step up next year. Both could do with bulking up a small bit over the winter.

Possible team with all outfield players under 30...
Clarke
Crowe, Harrison, EO'D
Keegan, P Durcan, Akram
Coen, DO'C
McLoughlin, AO'S, J Durcan
Loftus, CO'C, Doherty

yop wrote: »

Any word that Slingerman is back in GAA circles?

It was reported in The Connaught Telegraph a few weeks ago that he was back playing.

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Good post. My take would be the following:

Goalkeeper - Clarke almost certainly number 1 for championship next year but we need to identify his successor and give them 2 or 3 league games. Paddy O'Malley looks to be a good prospect. He's well over 6 foot and has a huge kickout. Needs to work on kickout accuracy and shot stopping IMO. Michael Schlingermann is back playing with Kiltimagh as well I believe.

Backs - We had 4 over 30's here against Kildare so there needs to be changes but I think we have good replacements here if I'm honest. Harrison will be back and O'Donoghue should have seen more game time this year anyway. I'd play them 2 plus Caolan Crowe in the full back line as of now but would like to see Seamus Cunniffe have go too. HB line will be Keegan, Durcan and another. Shairoze could be an option here or maybe James McCormack from Claremorris. Obviously within the squad we could still use Higgins, Boyle, Vaughan or Coen.

Midfield - Badly need to find a new player here but not sure if there is anyone out there. Mattie Ruane has had injury troubles the last couple of years but would be worth trying. Jordan Flynn looks a similar style player to Seamie O'Shea but he's not really a runner for next year with the ban. I think Diarmuid will be played here predominantly now. Aidan has had many good games here as well, could he be the partner?

Forwards - McLoughlin, Doherty and Cillian are still in their prime so they'll have big roles to play. Andy was the focal point of so much of our attacks the last few years and won't be easily replaced. I've always liked Brian Reape. He's a ball winning scoring forward. Otherwise, I'd be looking for Loftus and J Durcan to step up next year. Both could do with bulking up a small bit over the winter.

Possible team with all outfield players under 30...
Clarke
Crowe, Harrison, EO'D
Keegan, P Durcan, Akram
Coen, DO'C
McLoughlin, AO'S, J Durcan
Loftus, CO'C, Doherty

I think we need to see a lot of league minutes from the guys in bold

Akram will be at least 22 starting 2019, if he is going to be a senior he needs to start league games

If Coen and O' Connor are going to the the midfield going forward they have to start playing together there.

James Durkan can also start cementing a place

And I know Loftus has seen a lot of game time both league and championship but no harm giving him a starting role in the league

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Good post. My take would be the following:

Goalkeeper - Clarke almost certainly number 1 for championship next year but we need to identify his successor and give them 2 or 3 league games. Paddy O'Malley looks to be a good prospect. He's well over 6 foot and has a huge kickout. Needs to work on kickout accuracy and shot stopping IMO. Michael Schlingermann is back playing with Kiltimagh as well I believe.

Backs - We had 4 over 30's here against Kildare so there needs to be changes but I think we have good replacements here if I'm honest. Harrison will be back and O'Donoghue should have seen more game time this year anyway. I'd play them 2 plus Caolan Crowe in the full back line as of now but would like to see Seamus Cunniffe have go too. HB line will be Keegan, Durcan and another. Shairoze could be an option here or maybe James McCormack from Claremorris. Obviously within the squad we could still use Higgins, Boyle, Vaughan or Coen.

Midfield - Badly need to find a new player here but not sure if there is anyone out there. Mattie Ruane has had injury troubles the last couple of years but would be worth trying. Jordan Flynn looks a similar style player to Seamie O'Shea but he's not really a runner for next year with the ban. I think Diarmuid will be played here predominantly now. Aidan has had many good games here as well, could he be the partner?

Forwards - McLoughlin, Doherty and Cillian are still in their prime so they'll have big roles to play. Andy was the focal point of so much of our attacks the last few years and won't be easily replaced. I've always liked Brian Reape. He's a ball winning scoring forward. Otherwise, I'd be looking for Loftus and J Durcan to step up next year. Both could do with bulking up a small bit over the winter.

Possible team with all outfield players under 30...
Clarke
Crowe, Harrison, EO'D
Keegan, P Durcan, Akram
Coen, DO'C
McLoughlin, AO'S, J Durcan
Loftus, CO'C, Doherty

I think we need to see a lot of league minutes from the guys in bold

Akram will be at least 22 starting 2019, if he is going to be a senior he needs to start league games

If Coen and O' Connor are going to the the midfield going forward they have to start playing together there.

James Durkan can also start cementing a place

And I know Loftus has seen a lot of game time both league and championship but no harm giving him a starting role in the league

Hanley needs league games too. Let the veterans have a rest for the league and be used as impact subs.

Do people have confidence in Coen as a midfield replacement for Tom or Seamie? Because I do not.

PressRun wrote: »

Do people have confidence in Coen as a midfield replacement for Tom or Seamie? Because I do not.

No. Doesn't have to confidence to demand the ball from defenders to link up an attack. And is very reluctant to shoot when getting in decent positions. From what I have seen, I don't think he has the personality to take one of the pivotal positions on the team. Seems to prefer not to be in limelight. But he has been captain of some successful teams, so maybe as he gets older and becomes one of the more senior players, that confidence will come.

Well theres been no meeting between the two, Rochford has just said that he wants to stay on. I doubt the players want him and I'd say they'd like the CB to do their dirty work for them