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Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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Blackjack

Green&Red wrote: »

Well I doubt they could, they've played that card.

The players don’t have a problem with Rochford. That’s been made clear already. Not sure why you would persist with trying to spread that sort of bs. Twitter Seems to be loaded with all sort of bull****ter accounts running polls and attempting to do some sort of parody podcasts and the likes.

Some people have too much time on their hands.

Green&Red

Blackjack wrote: »

There’s an incredible amount of bull****ters on Twitter. If they had anything to say, they’d have said it by now, the same crowd.

Well I doubt they could, they've played that card.

Coillte_Bhoy

km79 wrote: »

Seen 2 interviews with Jason Doc and Zippy
Both saying what I had hoped
Break has energized them physically and mentally
Allowed them time with club,family etc etc

Zippy did not sound like a man with retirement in mind as he was talking about winter training and the FbD!!!!

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2008278889224970&id=595601400492733&_rdr

That’s zippys

A mate met himself and Rob Hennelly one week night recently in Fagans, Drumcondra out having a few pints, made me think that this was just enjoying the normal simple pleasures that we take for granted. Were dead sound, enjoying the break and looking forward to next year.

km79

Seen 2 interviews with Jason Doc and Zippy
Both saying what I had hoped
Break has energized them physically and mentally
Allowed them time with club,family etc etc

Zippy did not sound like a man with retirement in mind as he was talking about winter training and the FbD!!!!

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2008278889224970&id=595601400492733&_rdr

That’s zippys

Blackjack

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Why would you think the players don't want him? I've heard the exact opposite from a few of them.

There’s an incredible amount of bull****ters on Twitter. If they had anything to say, they’d have said it by now, the same crowd.

Audioslaven

RedDevil55 wrote: »

I don't see any other option at the moment, maybe someone will put their hand up in the club championship. Coen did well in midfield against Kildare and could grow into the role further. Up to now he's played a variety of positions in the backs, midfield and forwards which doesn't help. He gets into some great scoring positions if only his shooting could improve.

Coen is not a midfielder imo. He really needs to improve and I think he was lucky to get a lot of the starting positions. He is clearly not able to take the opposition player on and beat them. He tends to turn back and play the ball back which is frustrating to watch.

He is very driven by all accounts so I hope he really steps up next year.

seligehgit

Bit late to party with this one.

Mayo News Football Podcast 2018 All Ireland Under 20 Final Review

https://themayonews.podomatic.com/enclosure/2018-08-06T12_45_52-07_00.mp3

wirelessdude01

Green&Red wrote:

Well theres been no meeting between the two, Rochford has just said that he wants to stay on. I doubt the players want him and I'd say they'd like the CB to do their dirty work for them

Why would you think the players don't want him? I've heard the exact opposite from a few of them.

RedDevil55

PressRun wrote: »

Do people have confidence in Coen as a midfield replacement for Tom or Seamie? Because I do not.

I don't see any other option at the moment, maybe someone will put their hand up in the club championship. Coen did well in midfield against Kildare and could grow into the role further. Up to now he's played a variety of positions in the backs, midfield and forwards which doesn't help. He gets into some great scoring positions if only his shooting could improve.

[Deleted User]

Green&Red wrote: »

Well theres been no meeting between the two, Rochford has just said that he wants to stay on. I doubt the players want him and I'd say they'd like the CB to do their dirty work for them

Why ?

Green&Red

Well theres been no meeting between the two, Rochford has just said that he wants to stay on. I doubt the players want him and I'd say they'd like the CB to do their dirty work for them

Barlett

Anyone know what rumour they’re talking about on Twitter re: messing around with Rochford staying on?

FullBack Jam

PressRun wrote: »

Do people have confidence in Coen as a midfield replacement for Tom or Seamie? Because I do not.

No. Doesn't have to confidence to demand the ball from defenders to link up an attack. And is very reluctant to shoot when getting in decent positions. From what I have seen, I don't think he has the personality to take one of the pivotal positions on the team. Seems to prefer not to be in limelight. But he has been captain of some successful teams, so maybe as he gets older and becomes one of the more senior players, that confidence will come.

Bunny Colvin

PressRun wrote: »

Do people have confidence in Coen as a midfield replacement for Tom or Seamie? Because I do not.

Nope. Impact sub for me.

PressRun

Do people have confidence in Coen as a midfield replacement for Tom or Seamie? Because I do not.

[Deleted User]

muddle84 wrote: »

Hanley needs league games too. Let the veterans have a rest for the league and be used as impact subs.

And this is where you get the conflict with league performance.

If you want to run out a whole host of young guys then challenging for the league is likely not an option, and some here (and for good reason) think that challenging the league might be a good idea.

You could also end up in a situation where after running out the young guys early and losing you are scrambling for league points to avoid relegation and you got back to the old guys to dig you out of a hole. This is what Kerry did a lot under Fitzmaurice.

Or do you stick with young guys and take relegation if it happens ?

The best scenario of course is if you win early with young guys then you are safe in Division 1 after half the league then you can do as you wish after that.

muddle84

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Good post. My take would be the following:

Goalkeeper - Clarke almost certainly number 1 for championship next year but we need to identify his successor and give them 2 or 3 league games. Paddy O'Malley looks to be a good prospect. He's well over 6 foot and has a huge kickout. Needs to work on kickout accuracy and shot stopping IMO. Michael Schlingermann is back playing with Kiltimagh as well I believe.

Backs - We had 4 over 30's here against Kildare so there needs to be changes but I think we have good replacements here if I'm honest. Harrison will be back and O'Donoghue should have seen more game time this year anyway. I'd play them 2 plus Caolan Crowe in the full back line as of now but would like to see Seamus Cunniffe have go too. HB line will be Keegan, Durcan and another. Shairoze could be an option here or maybe James McCormack from Claremorris. Obviously within the squad we could still use Higgins, Boyle, Vaughan or Coen.

Midfield - Badly need to find a new player here but not sure if there is anyone out there. Mattie Ruane has had injury troubles the last couple of years but would be worth trying. Jordan Flynn looks a similar style player to Seamie O'Shea but he's not really a runner for next year with the ban. I think Diarmuid will be played here predominantly now. Aidan has had many good games here as well, could he be the partner?

Forwards - McLoughlin, Doherty and Cillian are still in their prime so they'll have big roles to play. Andy was the focal point of so much of our attacks the last few years and won't be easily replaced. I've always liked Brian Reape. He's a ball winning scoring forward. Otherwise, I'd be looking for Loftus and J Durcan to step up next year. Both could do with bulking up a small bit over the winter.

Possible team with all outfield players under 30...
Clarke
Crowe, Harrison, EO'D
Keegan, P Durcan, Akram
Coen, DO'C
McLoughlin, AO'S, J Durcan
Loftus, CO'C, Doherty

I think we need to see a lot of league minutes from the guys in bold

Akram will be at least 22 starting 2019, if he is going to be a senior he needs to start league games

If Coen and O' Connor are going to the the midfield going forward they have to start playing together there.

James Durkan can also start cementing a place

And I know Loftus has seen a lot of game time both league and championship but no harm giving him a starting role in the league

Hanley needs league games too. Let the veterans have a rest for the league and be used as impact subs.

djPSB

Rochford will need to add in some intervention to improve team on field discipline.

Red cards have cost Mayo dearly in big games in recent years. And unfortunately raised its head in the u20 final quite badly although not impacting the result.

Perhaps some form of anger management yoga over the winter months.

[Deleted User]

RedDevil55 wrote: »

Good post. My take would be the following:

Goalkeeper - Clarke almost certainly number 1 for championship next year but we need to identify his successor and give them 2 or 3 league games. Paddy O'Malley looks to be a good prospect. He's well over 6 foot and has a huge kickout. Needs to work on kickout accuracy and shot stopping IMO. Michael Schlingermann is back playing with Kiltimagh as well I believe.

Backs - We had 4 over 30's here against Kildare so there needs to be changes but I think we have good replacements here if I'm honest. Harrison will be back and O'Donoghue should have seen more game time this year anyway. I'd play them 2 plus Caolan Crowe in the full back line as of now but would like to see Seamus Cunniffe have go too. HB line will be Keegan, Durcan and another. Shairoze could be an option here or maybe James McCormack from Claremorris. Obviously within the squad we could still use Higgins, Boyle, Vaughan or Coen.

Midfield - Badly need to find a new player here but not sure if there is anyone out there. Mattie Ruane has had injury troubles the last couple of years but would be worth trying. Jordan Flynn looks a similar style player to Seamie O'Shea but he's not really a runner for next year with the ban. I think Diarmuid will be played here predominantly now. Aidan has had many good games here as well, could he be the partner?

Forwards - McLoughlin, Doherty and Cillian are still in their prime so they'll have big roles to play. Andy was the focal point of so much of our attacks the last few years and won't be easily replaced. I've always liked Brian Reape. He's a ball winning scoring forward. Otherwise, I'd be looking for Loftus and J Durcan to step up next year. Both could do with bulking up a small bit over the winter.

Possible team with all outfield players under 30...
Clarke
Crowe, Harrison, EO'D
Keegan, P Durcan, Akram
Coen, DO'C
McLoughlin, AO'S, J Durcan
Loftus, CO'C, Doherty

I think we need to see a lot of league minutes from the guys in bold

Akram will be at least 22 starting 2019, if he is going to be a senior he needs to start league games

If Coen and O' Connor are going to the the midfield going forward they have to start playing together there.

James Durkan can also start cementing a place

And I know Loftus has seen a lot of game time both league and championship but no harm giving him a starting role in the league

Bunny Colvin

seligehgit wrote: »

Jordan Flynn received an 18 week suspension.

No surprise there. He will learn from it and move on.

PARlance

yop wrote: »

Any word that Slingerman is back in GAA circles?

It was reported in The Connaught Telegraph a few weeks ago that he was back playing.

seligehgit

Jordan Flynn received an 18 week suspension.

RedDevil55

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I’m not in the county so I have no idea what is happening in club football but on the face of it Mayo could do with the following.

Goalkeeper – Clarke is fine there for a while with O’Malley getting some league game time hopefully.

Full back - Assuming Harrison and O’ Donoughe are corners for the present and future then a full back is needed.

Half back – Keegan and Paddy Durkan are obvious starters here but Boyle is running out of steam and may not have many years left as a starter. Do you use Coen as a half back or try to find a new one?

Midfield- To be fair two new midfields are required. Parson’s injury is a concern obviously and Seamus O’ Shea is not getting any younger, he like Boyle may not have much left. Coen may be an option but in reality it’s an area Mayo have not had any new blood in in a long long time.
They need two midfielders

Forwards – Plenty of guys available around here but how many will turn out to be top class is hard to know. Andy will probably play the role as an impact sub going forward, and the only other guy getting on in years in Kevin McLoughlin. The two O’Connors. Doherty and Aiden O’ Shea are still in their prime and top class players. But you are hoping for a step up from Hanley, James Durkan and the likes of Loftus could do with cementing his place. I’m not sure about Regan, again injury has curtailed him.
I’m not convinced he is starter material.

Then on the bench you have at least the likes of good seasoned guys like Boyle, Andy, Higgins and Vaughan.

So that’s – a full back, a half back, two midfielders and maybe one in the six forwards.

Anyone ?

Good post. My take would be the following:

Goalkeeper - Clarke almost certainly number 1 for championship next year but we need to identify his successor and give them 2 or 3 league games. Paddy O'Malley looks to be a good prospect. He's well over 6 foot and has a huge kickout. Needs to work on kickout accuracy and shot stopping IMO. Michael Schlingermann is back playing with Kiltimagh as well I believe.

Backs - We had 4 over 30's here against Kildare so there needs to be changes but I think we have good replacements here if I'm honest. Harrison will be back and O'Donoghue should have seen more game time this year anyway. I'd play them 2 plus Caolan Crowe in the full back line as of now but would like to see Seamus Cunniffe have go too. HB line will be Keegan, Durcan and another. Shairoze could be an option here or maybe James McCormack from Claremorris. Obviously within the squad we could still use Higgins, Boyle, Vaughan or Coen.

Midfield - Badly need to find a new player here but not sure if there is anyone out there. Mattie Ruane has had injury troubles the last couple of years but would be worth trying. Jordan Flynn looks a similar style player to Seamie O'Shea but he's not really a runner for next year with the ban. I think Diarmuid will be played here predominantly now. Aidan has had many good games here as well, could he be the partner?

Forwards - McLoughlin, Doherty and Cillian are still in their prime so they'll have big roles to play. Andy was the focal point of so much of our attacks the last few years and won't be easily replaced. I've always liked Brian Reape. He's a ball winning scoring forward. Otherwise, I'd be looking for Loftus and J Durcan to step up next year. Both could do with bulking up a small bit over the winter.

Possible team with all outfield players under 30...
Clarke
Crowe, Harrison, EO'D
Keegan, P Durcan, Akram
Coen, DO'C
McLoughlin, AO'S, J Durcan
Loftus, CO'C, Doherty

[Deleted User]

charlie14 wrote: »

Replacing one third of first team players in one swoop, especially in a Div 1 campaign, would be nigh impossible imho.
I can see where you are coming from and the need for them, but if they are around then You would wonder why Rochford hasn`t them already in the panel at the very least.
I cannot see it happening really. This is in all probability Rochford`s last year and managers in their last year do not tend to experiment too much unless it is forced upon them due to retirements.
They tend to stick with the tried and trusted.
That can be a blessing in that he knows his team inside and out for a final push, or a curse in that when he goes the new man in is left with a major rebuild required.

I remember being totally disheartened by the league preview of the Mayo News GAA podcast back in January when they were talking about the players they hope to see something from being Keane, Gibbons, Regan and a returning Barry Moran.

There was not a new name to look forward to among them.

I hope its not the same this next year.

If Rochford does not refresh this year and if it is his last season then I think the next person will be harvesting from this years u20s whether they are ready or not.

[Deleted User]

seligehgit wrote: »

Patrick O Malley is no certainty for the number one spot,much to prove yet.

Matthew Flanagan would be my first option to try out.

Not exactly flaitiulach with full backs??

Shane Nally surely deserves an extended run in the half back come next year's league.Is Akram worth a run?

An injury free Matthew Ruane will hopefully be given the opportunity to step up to the plate.Can definitely see Diarmuid slotting into the middle long term.

Hoping the likes of Cathal Horan,Ryan O Donoghue,Tommy Conroy,Conor Diskin,Ross Egan and the two Westport half backs Pat Lambert and Oisin McLaughlin can produce more nuggets of quality into the medium term.

Throw Slingermann (sp) into the goalkeeper mix if he is back.

I'd agree with Diarmuid slotting in at midfield.

The last ones you mentioned are very young so there is still a while to go before they are potential seniors, and that's a problem I have with the new u20 grade, there is too much of a empty gap to senior. Only the really really developed or talented guys can make that a quick transition.

seligehgit

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I’m not in the county so I have no idea what is happening in club football but on the face of it Mayo could do with the following.

Goalkeeper – Clarke is fine there for a while with O’Malley getting some league game time hopefully.

Full back - Assuming Harrison and O’ Donoughe are corners for the present and future then a full back is needed.

Half back – Keegan and Paddy Durkan are obvious starters here but Boyle is running out of steam and may not have many years left as a starter. Do you use Coen as a half back or try to find a new one?

Midfield- To be fair two new midfields are required. Parson’s injury is a concern obviously and Seamus O’ Shea is not getting any younger, he like Boyle may not have much left. Coen may be an option but in reality it’s an area Mayo have not had any new blood in in a long long time.
They need two midfielders

Forwards – Plenty of guys available around here but how many will turn out to be top class is hard to know. Andy will probably play the role as an impact sub going forward, and the only other guy getting on in years in Kevin McLoughlin. The two O’Connors. Doherty and Aiden O’ Shea are still in their prime and top class players. But you are hoping for a step up from Hanley, James Durkan and the likes of Loftus could do with cementing his place. I’m not sure about Regan, again injury has curtailed him.
I’m not convinced he is starter material.

Then on the bench you have at least the likes of good seasoned guys like Boyle, Andy, Higgins and Vaughan.

So that’s – a full back, a half back, two midfielders and maybe one in the six forwards.

Anyone ?

Patrick O Malley is no certainty for the number one spot,much to prove yet.

Matthew Flanagan would be my first option to try out.

Not exactly flaitiulach with full backs??

Shane Nally surely deserves an extended run in the half back come next year's league.Is Akram worth a run?

An injury free Matthew Ruane will hopefully be given the opportunity to step up to the plate.Can definitely see Diarmuid slotting into the middle long term.

Hoping the likes of Cathal Horan,Ryan O Donoghue,Tommy Conroy,Conor Diskin,Ross Egan and the two Westport half backs Pat Lambert and Oisin McLaughlin can produce more nuggets of quality into the medium term.

charlie14

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I’m not in the county so I have no idea what is happening in club football but on the face of it Mayo could do with the following.

Goalkeeper – Clarke is fine there for a while with O’Malley getting some league game time hopefully.

Full back - Assuming Harrison and O’ Donoughe are corners for the present and future then a full back is needed.

Half back – Keegan and Paddy Durkan are obvious starters here but Boyle is running out of steam and may not have many years left as a starter. Do you use Coen as a half back or try to find a new one?

Midfield- To be fair two new midfields are required. Parson’s injury is a concern obviously and Seamus O’ Shea is not getting any younger, he like Boyle may not have much left. Coen may be an option but in reality it’s an area Mayo have not had any new blood in in a long long time.
They need two midfielders

Forwards – Plenty of guys available around here but how many will turn out to be top class is hard to know. Andy will probably play the role as an impact sub going forward, and the only other guy getting on in years in Kevin McLoughlin. The two O’Connors. Doherty and Aiden O’ Shea are still in their prime and top class players. But you are hoping for a step up from Hanley, James Durkan and the likes of Loftus could do with cementing his place. I’m not sure about Regan, again injury has curtailed him.
I’m not convinced he is starter material.

Then on the bench you have at least the likes of good seasoned guys like Boyle, Andy, Higgins and Vaughan.

So that’s – a full back, a half back, two midfielders and maybe one in the six forwards.

Anyone ?

Replacing one third of first team players in one swoop, especially in a Div 1 campaign, would be nigh impossible imho.
I can see where you are coming from and the need for them, but if they are around then You would wonder why Rochford hasn`t them already in the panel at the very least.
I cannot see it happening really. This is in all probability Rochford`s last year and managers in their last year do not tend to experiment too much unless it is forced upon them due to retirements.
They tend to stick with the tried and trusted.
That can be a blessing in that he knows his team inside and out for a final push, or a curse in that when he goes the new man in is left with a major rebuild required.

Panrich

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I’m not in the county so I have no idea what is happening in club football but on the face of it Mayo could do with the following.

Goalkeeper – Clarke is fine there for a while with O’Malley getting some league game time hopefully.

Full back - Assuming Harrison and O’ Donoughe are corners for the present and future then a full back is needed.

Half back – Keegan and Paddy Durkan are obvious starters here but Boyle is running out of steam and may not have many years left as a starter. Do you use Coen as a half back or try to find a new one?

Midfield- To be fair two new midfields are required. Parson’s injury is a concern obviously and Seamus O’ Shea is not getting any younger, he like Boyle may not have much left. Coen may be an option but in reality it’s an area Mayo have not had any new blood in in a long long time.
They need two midfielders

Forwards – Plenty of guys available around here but how many will turn out to be top class is hard to know. Andy will probably play the role as an impact sub going forward, and the only other guy getting on in years in Kevin McLoughlin. The two O’Connors. Doherty and Aiden O’ Shea are still in their prime and top class players. But you are hoping for a step up from Hanley, James Durkan and the likes of Loftus could do with cementing his place. I’m not sure about Regan, again injury has curtailed him.
I’m not convinced he is starter material.

Then on the bench you have at least the likes of good seasoned guys like Boyle, Andy, Higgins and Vaughan.

So that’s – a full back, a half back, two midfielders and maybe one in the six forwards.

Anyone ?

I think Diarmuid could take one of the midfield spots.

yop

PARlance wrote: »

I spotted one photo of Aidan, Big Bird and Robbie Hennelly up in Donegal at the golf (the Irish Open) last month and the tag was that the Mayo lads were up meeting Jim... had to laugh.

I hear Gareth Brooks is in line to take the Mayo job. Aidan and the team sang a song for him. Reliable source......

Any word that Slingerman is back in GAA circles?

PARlance

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

It wasn't their story, Indo was only quoting The Sun. Anyway all done with now thankfully before it grew legs

I spotted one photo of Aidan, Big Bird and Robbie Hennelly up in Donegal at the golf (the Irish Open) last month and the tag was that the Mayo lads were up meeting Jim... had to laugh.