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Visting the Gaeltachts

  • 14-08-2018 10:26PM
    #1
    YupLimerick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 ✭


    I've always wanted to travel to the Gaeltachta in this country. I have a good(not perfect) level of Irish. I'm studying it in UL and now I really want to improve it. Which Gaeltachts have the most widely spoken Irish? I was in Dingle on holidays last year for a week and heard no Irish. Also, which ones have ye had the best experiences in? It's awful not having a Gaeltacht in Limerick.
    Thanks for any suggestions given.
    Luimneach abú.


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  • #2
    badtoro
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    Connemara I'd imagine.


  • #3
    Surreptitious
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    Ballyvourney in Cork where they speak a mix of Irish and English. I'd imagine most can speak fluently.


  • #4
    Hector Bellend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    YupLimerick wrote: »
    I've always wanted to travel to the Gaeltachta in this country. I have a good(not perfect) level of Irish. I'm studying it in UL and now I really want to improve it. Which Gaeltachts have the most widely spoken Irish? I was in Dingle on holidays last year for a week and heard no Irish. Also, which ones have ye had the best experiences in? It's awful not having a Gaeltacht in Limerick.
    Thanks for any suggestions given.
    Luimneach abú.

    You mean like the rest of the country?


  • #5
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    You mean like the rest of the country?

    Dingle is supposedly a Gaeltacht, brainiac.


  • #6
    Hector Bellend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    Dingle is supposedly a Gaeltacht, brainiac.

    And hows that going for you?

    Plenty of irish being spoken down there I hear.


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  • #7
    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,083 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Which dialect do you speak? You'd be best visiting a area which speaks that one ...


  • #8
    Hector Bellend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    Which dialect do you speak? You'd be best visiting a area which speaks that one ...

    english


  • #9
    taytobreath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭taytobreath


    Ring in Waterford


  • #10
    feargale
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    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    english

    Do you have a problem about a person being interested in the Irish language and trying to find out where he should best go to improve his command of it?


  • #11
    Hector Bellend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    feargale wrote: »
    Do you have a problem about a person being interested in the Irish language and trying to find out where he should best go to improve his command of it?

    I have no problem with anyone else learning a dead language that nobody speaks in public and hasnt done in any meaningful way in my lifetime.


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  • #12
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    And hows that going for you?

    Plenty of irish being spoken down there I hear.

    Er, it’s not going for me. I was explaining your mistake.


  • #13
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    I have no problem with anyone else learning a dead language that nobody speaks in public and hasnt done in any meaningful way in my lifetime.

    This might not be the thread for you, then.


  • #14
    Hector Bellend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    Er, it’s not going for me. I was explaining your mistake.

    Ok, so I've been speaking English to myself for the last 40 years. My bad.

    I've never had an Irish conversation in my life but apparently I've been living a parallel universe.


  • #15
    Hector Bellend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    This might not be the thread for you, then.

    Oh no. I think it is.

    I want to hear all about the widespread conversations that you've all been having with each other through the glorious dead language of Irish.

    I'll just remove my head from my English speaking arse over here.


  • #16
    Surreptitious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    Ok, so I've been speaking English to myself for the last 40 years. My bad.

    I've never had an Irish conversation in my life but apparently I've been living a parallel universe.
    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    Oh no. I think it is.

    I want to hear all about the widespread conversations that you've all been having with each other through the glorious dead language of Irish.

    I'll just remove my head from my English speaking arse over here.

    Have a ****.


  • #17
    feargale
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    YupLimerick wrote: »
    I've always wanted to travel to the Gaeltachta in this country. Luimneach abú.

    I haven't been in Dingle for years. When I was there there was a little to be heard in the town. You would probably hear more west of Dingle.
    You will hear little anywhere in the tourist season. Ring is better out of season.
    As for Cork, I have been in Ballyvourney and Cape Clear and wouldn't have known I was in a Gaeltacht.
    The best in my experience were the Aran Islands, especially Inishmaan.
    I know little or nothing of Donegal.


  • #18
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    Oh no. I think it is.

    I want to hear all about the widespread conversations that you've all been having with each other through the glorious dead language of Irish.

    I'll just remove my head from my English speaking arse over here.

    I don’t speak Irish at all. This thread is a guy asking questions about the best Gaeltacht for him. So, not a thread therefore for pathological haters of a minority language.

    There are places you might feel comfortable though, the orange order I’m told do a nice cup of tea.


  • #19
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    feargale wrote: »
    I haven't been in Dingle for years. When I was there there was a little to be heard in the town. You would probably hear more west of Dingle.
    You will hear little anywhere in the tourist season. Ring is better out of season.
    As for Cork, I have been in Ballyvourney and Cape Clear and wouldn't have known I was in a Gaeltacht.
    The best in my experience were the Aran Islands, especially Inishmaan.
    I know little or nothing of Donegal.

    I definite just heard Irish a few years ago in Dingle, but there are dozens of languages spoken in Dingle in any one day.


  • #20
    Hector Bellend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Surreptitious wrote: »
    Have a ****.

    Perhaps I'll crack one off in Irish.

    Oh wait. I dont know what **** is in irish.


  • #21
    Surreptitious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    Perhaps I'll crack one off in Irish.

    Oh wait. I dont know what **** is in irish.

    Just watch Ros na Run and the rest will follow.


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  • #22
    feargale
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    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    I have no problem with anyone else learning a dead language that nobody speaks in public and hasnt done in any meaningful way in my lifetime.

    It seems OP cannot make a simple enquiry without being barracked and ballyragged.
    Before you come in here to use your profound ignorance of language to project your bigoted trolling you should google to learn the difference between languages that are threatened, endangered, moribund, dead, extinct and revived. But I guess one needs a brain for that. It's easier to throw out mindless, cornerboy yobbish jibes that have no basis in education, such of it as you have or not. There is nothing as pathetic as a yob who is convinced that he is smarter than the rest of the world. Some day when you are out of short pants you will come to realise that you have alot to learn. Now, off you go, Mr. Ross O'Carroll-Kelly.


  • #23
    Dave0301
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    Hector Bellend wrote: »

    Perhaps I'll crack one off in Irish.

    Oh wait. I dont know what **** is in irish.

    It is the same, except it has a fada over the a.

    Tàim ag wànk...


  • #24
    jimbobaloobob
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    Was in dingle last year found that out in Baile an Fheirtéaraigh especially I could hear Irish being spoken. That said everywhere I went if I spoke Irish on dingle peninsula I was responded to in Irish
    I speak it on a daily basis and regularly do business in Connemara. Different dialects are no harm to hear and work with no different to different regions of France or Spain and their accents on their language. OP I'd go to which ever is closest and enjoy


  • #25
    boardise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭boardise


    I think any Irish person is entitled to express reservations about the way Gaelic is dealt with in society without being subjected to vituperation and abuse. Such phrases as 'hating a language ' are intrinsically ridiculous.
    I hold degrees in Gaelic and have a high level of knowledge of all phases of the language back to Sean-Ghaeilge-from the study of which I have indeed derived much profit and pleasure. That is entirely an academic pursuit.
    Having thought about it over many decades ,I have concluded that the whole Gaelic Revival' policy is a total nonsense -
    an exercise in pointlessness and futility which generates a mountain of puzzlement and frustration as well as an enormous waste of money.
    It is a great pity that any discussions about Gaelic quickly degenerate into inflamed bouts of insults and name-calling and that people cannot maintain a sense of calm and reason to try to clarify and apprehend better a complex situation.


  • #26
    gormdubhgorm
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    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    I have no problem with anyone else learning a dead language that nobody speaks in public and hasnt done in any meaningful way in my lifetime.

    You keep believing this if it makes you happy. Your username is fitting.
    I know Russians, French, Americans and even people from Africa, with a decent command of the Irish language.
    Also they speak it regularly in public.
    Maybe you would like to meet them?
    They are definitely not dead...

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #27
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,426 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    OP alternative to visiting the gaeltacht is to find a local 'ciorcal comhra' local to you, they usually cater to all levels.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #28
    gormdubhgorm
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    boardise wrote: »
    I have concluded that the whole Gaelic Revival' policy is a total nonsense

    I can never fully understand how Hungary succeeded where Ireland failed.
    It must be because of population size?
    Or is it historical factors like how Irish was viewed as backward?
    One of my Great-Grandfathers had no English!
    It is kind of sad how a language can be systematically attacked, first by foreign powers then attacked by societal pressure.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #29
    mazwell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭mazwell


    Hector Bellend wrote: »
    I have no problem with anyone else learning a dead language that nobody speaks in public and hasnt done in any meaningful way in my lifetime.

    I speak it. My family speak it. And everyone in my area speaks it.
    Come to west Donegal op. I suspect well have a different dialect to yours but we'll help you out


  • #30
    LeinsterDub
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    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    Which dialect do you speak? You'd be best visiting a area which speaks that one ...

    No one cares about your dialect. Just use some Irish.


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  • #31
    mazwell
    Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭mazwell


    LeinsterDub wrote: »
    No one cares about your dialect. Just use some Irish.

    You'd be wrong there. Speaking as a native speaker of Irish


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