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Could a terrorist attack happen in Ireland?

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  • 14-08-2018 8:28pm
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    Jeff Devoy
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    This is a question that is being asked by many people in Ireland at the moment.

    Could a terror attack happen in Ireland? What would happen if there was?

    I'm not talking about groups from the Six Counties here, I'm talking about IS and Islamist terrorism.

    After recent events, including in Westminster earlier which a man tried to kill a number of people by ramming a car into pedestrians.

    Many politicians and senior members of AGS have said that Ireland cannot be immune from terrorism, although an attack is very unlikely.

    I agree that a mass-casualty atrocity is more than likely not going to happen, but an incident like what happened in Westminster is very much an underlying possibility.

    An Islamist extremist attack here would more than likely come from someone who isn't actually a member of IS or another terrorist organisation, but would probably be inspired by their caused and radicalised, similar to recent attacks in Britain. A vehicle going down Grafton Street or O'Connell Street hitting and likely killing a number of people would be a plausible scenario. An attack similar to that in Manchester involving a bombing at a crowded venue is somewhat likely also.

    I won't blame it entirely on immigration, although it could play a part.

    In addition, I strongly doubt that the Gardaí could deal with such serious incidents like the scenarios above.

    So, do you think Ireland could be next?

    Do you think a terror attack could happen in Ireland? 89 votes

    Yes
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    No
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    PlaneSpeeking
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    Jeff Devoy wrote: »
    This is a question that is being asked by many people in Ireland at the moment.

    Could a terror attack happen in Ireland? What would happen if there was?

    I'm not talking about groups from the Six Counties here, I'm talking about IS and Islamist terrorism.

    After recent events, including in Westminster earlier which a man tried to kill a number of people by ramming a car into pedestrians.

    Many politicians and senior members of AGS have said that Ireland cannot be immune from terrorism, although an attack is very unlikely.

    I agree that a mass-casualty atrocity is more than likely not going to happen, but an incident like what happened in Westminster is very much an underlying possibility.

    An Islamist extremist attack here would more than likely come from someone who isn't actually a member of IS or another terrorist organisation, but would probably be inspired by their caused and radicalised, similar to recent attacks in Britain. A vehicle going down Grafton Street or O'Connell Street hitting and likely killing a number of people would be a plausible scenario. An attack similar to that in Manchester involving a bombing at a crowded venue is somewhat likely also.

    I won't blame it entirely on immigration, although it could play a part.

    In addition, I strongly doubt that the Gardaí could deal with such serious incidents like the scenarios above.

    So, do you think Ireland could be next?

    Absolutely. Why would we be exempt ?


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    The Backwards Man
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    I think we should just rename AH The Crank and Loon forum and leave them to it.


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    rgodard80a
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    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Absolutely. Why would we be exempt ?

    Because we haven't sent forces to fight directly against ISIS


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    PlaneSpeeking
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    rgodard80a wrote: »
    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    Absolutely. Why would we be exempt ?

    Because we haven't sent forces to fight directly against ISIS

    Very naive there.


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    Jeff Devoy
    Site Banned Posts: 37 ✭Jeff Devoy


    rgodard80a wrote: »
    Because we haven't sent forces to fight directly against ISIS

    I suppose, because we are supposedly neutral and all that, we would be less of a target? Would I be right in saying that?


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    dxhound2005
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    Jeff Devoy wrote: »
    This is a question that is being asked by many people in Ireland at the moment.

    Could a terror attack happen in Ireland? What would happen if there was?

    I'm not talking about groups from the Six Counties here, I'm talking about IS and Islamist terrorism.

    They haven't gone away. You should be more worried about them.


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    Try_harder
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    The Backwards Man wrote: »
    I think we should just rename AH The Crank and Loon forum and leave them to it.

    And Xenophobic, sorry, Nativist!


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    Mike Hoch
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    There already was one in Dundalk in January. However, the amount of idiots ISIS is able to inspire is currently in severe decline giving the hiding they got in the last 12 months, compared to how many lone wolf attacks happened in 2015- 2018.


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    Chiparus
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    rgodard80a wrote: »
    Because we haven't sent forces to fight directly against ISIS

    Neither did Sweden.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Stockholm_attack

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Stockholm_bombings

    Actually think the upcoming Papal mass is a very high risk event.


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    Fann Linn
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    rgodard80a wrote: »
    Because we haven't sent forces to fight directly against ISIS

    We're more likely to just aid and abet at Shannon International.


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    SEPT 23 1989
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    They could whack the pope in the park that would be a headline grabber


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    cbyrd
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    Didn't we once have plenty of home grown terrorists? It's not that long ago.


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    SPDUB
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    The biggest loss of life on one day during the troubles happened in the republic , namely the Dublin and Monaghan bombings in 1974 so they have happened here already .


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    dxhound2005
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    Chiparus wrote: »
    Neither did Sweden.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Stockholm_attack

    Sweden did.

    https://www.thelocal.se/20160713/sweden-set-to-double-anti-isis-troops-in-iraq


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    The Backwards Man
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    SPDUB wrote: »
    The biggest loss of life on one day during the troubles happened in the republic , namely the Dublin and Monaghan bombings in 1974 so they have happened here already .

    Unless Black September claim responsibility for them they won't even register in some obsessive minds around here.


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    Yer Da sells Avon
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    At a minimum, all it takes is one disaffected dickhead with a knife or a hatchback, so I'm pleasantly surprised that it hasn't happened already.


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    Sal Butamol
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    The idea that we haven't sent soldiers and are neutral so they aren't a threat illustrates how tone deaf some people are to Islamic Terrorism


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    Jeff Devoy
    Site Banned Posts: 37 ✭Jeff Devoy


    Mike Hoch wrote: »
    There already was one in Dundalk in January. However, the amount of idiots ISIS is able to inspire is currently in severe decline giving the hiding they got in the last 12 months, compared to how many lone wolf attacks happened in 2015- 2018.

    I disagree with labelling the murder in Dundalk as terrorism. It seems to have been the act of a mentally ill individual who just came from the Middle East. If some of the recent string of murders down here were committed by mentally ill Muslim people, it would probably be called terrorism as well. It's ridiculous.
    SPDUB wrote: »
    The biggest loss of life on one day during the troubles happened in the republic , namely the Dublin and Monaghan bombings in 1974 so they have happened here already .

    That was committed by the UVF. The names of those involved are freely available online.


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    Fann Linn
    Registered Users Posts: 7,778 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    SPDUB wrote: »
    The biggest loss of life on one day during the troubles happened in the republic , namely the Dublin and Monaghan bombings in 1974 so they have happened here already .

    Allegedly carried out by agents of HM Govt.


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    Mike Hoch
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    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    At a minimum, all it takes is one disaffected dickhead with a knife or a hatchback, so I'm pleasantly surprised that it hasn't happened already.

    It has. In Dundalk.

    You won't hear any of the left wingers who go on about the Mary Boyle, Maurice McCabe and the breath test scandal be particularly interested in the creative talents of the Gardai in regards to this case however. It's best forgotten about.


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    RasTa
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    There will be lots if they stick a hard border back in Ireland


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    Jeff Devoy
    Site Banned Posts: 37 ✭Jeff Devoy


    Mike Hoch wrote: »
    It has. In Dundalk.

    You won't hear any of the left wingers who go on about the Mary Boyle, Maurice McCabe and the breath test scandal be particularly interested in the creative talents of the Gardai in regards to this case however. It's best forgotten about.
    Again, many people, myself included, would take issue with the Dundalk incident being called terrorism. It was clearly carried out by a mentally ill individual.


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    Jeff Devoy
    Site Banned Posts: 37 ✭Jeff Devoy


    How many of these Islamist headbangers are there alleged to be in Ireland at this present moment?


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    Try_harder
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    SPDUB wrote: »
    The biggest loss of life on one day during the troubles happened in the republic , namely the Dublin and Monaghan bombings in 1974 so they have happened here already .

    And the Omagh bombing was the single greatest loss of life


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    Jeff Devoy
    Site Banned Posts: 37 ✭Jeff Devoy


    Try_harder wrote: »
    And the Omagh bombing was the single greatest loss of life

    Twenty years ago tommorow.


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    badtoro
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    Could it happen, absolutely. Will it happen, I really wouldn't worry about it.


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    dav3
    Registered Users Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Jeff Devoy wrote: »
    This is a question that is being asked by many people in Ireland at the moment.

    Could a terror attack happen in Ireland? What would happen if there was?

    I'm not talking about groups from the Six Counties here, I'm talking about IS and Islamist terrorism.

    After recent events, including in Westminster earlier which a man tried to kill a number of people by ramming a car into pedestrians.

    Many politicians and senior members of AGS have said that Ireland cannot be immune from terrorism, although an attack is very unlikely.

    I agree that a mass-casualty atrocity is more than likely not going to happen, but an incident like what happened in Westminster is very much an underlying possibility.

    An Islamist extremist attack here would more than likely come from someone who isn't actually a member of IS or another terrorist organisation, but would probably be inspired by their caused and radicalised, similar to recent attacks in Britain. A vehicle going down Grafton Street or O'Connell Street hitting and likely killing a number of people would be a plausible scenario. An attack similar to that in Manchester involving a bombing at a crowded venue is somewhat likely also.

    I won't blame it entirely on immigration, although it could play a part.

    In addition, I strongly doubt that the Gardaí could deal with such serious incidents like the scenarios above.

    So, do you think Ireland could be next?

    This all sounds very familiar, a bit of the old copy and paste going on. The answer is yes. Plenty of MI6 and Loyalists still milling around.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057729256
    Dubh Linn wrote: »
    This is a question that is being asked by many people in Ireland at the moment.

    Could a terror attack happen in Ireland? What would happen if there was?

    I'm not talking about the IRA or groups from the North here, I'm talking about IS and Islamist terrorism.

    After the Westminster attack, Frances Fitzgerald told the Dail that Ireland is not immune from terror attacks.

    They have attacked promenades in Nice, theatres, restaurants, supermarkets, offices, airports and museums in Paris, beaches in Tunisia, Christmas markets in Berlin, airports and metros Brussels and Istanbul, Ankara, Stockholm, St. Petersburg and the list goes on. Good Christ, they have even attacked German football team buses now.

    So, do you think Ireland could be next?


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    Jeff Devoy
    Site Banned Posts: 37 ✭Jeff Devoy


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    They haven't gone away. You should be more worried about them.

    I'm forced to agree.

    If there is a united Ireland, and let's face the fact that it's more likely to happen now compared to before, the loyalist groups would undoubtedly pose the largest threat, the UDA, UVF etc etc.

    In order to combat them we'd need a larger army which could involve conscription, the creation of an Air Force and the expansion of the Navy. Once that's happened, it's bye bye neutrality. Sorry lefties.


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    dxhound2005
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    Jeff Devoy wrote: »
    I'm forced to agree.

    If there is a united Ireland, and let's face the fact that it's more likely to happen now compared to before, the loyalist groups would undoubtedly pose the largest threat, the UDA, UVF etc etc.

    In order to combat them we'd need a larger army which could involve conscription, the creation of an Air Force and the expansion of the Navy. Once that's happened, it's bye bye neutrality. Sorry lefties.

    Doesn't sound very united to me.


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    JohnMc1
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    Jeff Devoy wrote: »
    How many of these Islamist headbangers are there alleged to be in Ireland at this present moment?

    63,000 as of the 2016 Census. Not that many,but we shouldn't get complacent. One in Waterford was sentenced for sending money to ISIS.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/man-jailed-funding-islamic-state-4111114-Jul2018/


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