Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

PressRun · 13-08-2018 12:44PM

Stoner wrote: »

muddle84 wrote:

Does anybody here think that McGuinness would actually get us over the line? When you think of what he achieved with Donegal and how he achieved it I'm not convinced! But interested to hear other peoples thoughts.

If McGuinness had the time and was available why would he manage any team other than Donegal?

It's not going to happen. Total wishful thinking and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if that story was planted by someone with an axe to grind with Rochford.

charlie14 · 13-08-2018 01:13PM

muddle84 wrote: »

Yeah I heard those rumour's over the weekend too. Apparently there is a group of people outside the country that are willing to fund a big name.

Does anybody here think that McGuinness would actually get us over the line? When you think of what he achieved with Donegal and how he achieved it I'm not convinced! But interested to hear other peoples thoughts.

One thing is for sure, who ever is putting this stuff out to the papers obviously wants Rochford out.

The Donegal panel when McGuinness took over were a shambles, but he got them to buy in totally as too what he wanted from them. Same as he did with a pretty average U21 team prior to that. I`m not sure that Mayo panel would have done the same.
All irrelevant though as I cannot see him even if he had the time managing any county other than Donegal.

PARlance · 13-08-2018 01:28PM

muddle84 wrote: »

Yeah I heard those rumour's over the weekend too. Apparently there is a group of people outside the country that are willing to fund a big name.

Does anybody here think that McGuinness would actually get us over the line? When you think of what he achieved with Donegal and how he achieved it I'm not convinced! But interested to hear other peoples thoughts.

One thing is for sure, who ever is putting this stuff out to the papers obviously wants Rochford out.

Mayo sells, simple as that.

On the Jim question. I wouldn't be massively keen to have him. What he did was amazing but I don't think it would be easily repeated.

He had a group that needed putting into shape and brought a style of football that gave him an edge. I'm not sure that's easily recreated.

I would say he would have much more impact with the likes of Roscommon or maybe even Galway as they could be moulded more... don't ask me to explain that, just thinking out loud.

Coillte_Bhoy · 13-08-2018 02:18PM

muddle84 wrote: »

Yeah I heard those rumour's over the weekend too. Apparently there is a group of people outside the country that are willing to fund a big name.

Does anybody here think that McGuinness would actually get us over the line? When you think of what he achieved with Donegal and how he achieved it I'm not convinced! But interested to hear other peoples thoughts.

One thing is for sure, who ever is putting this stuff out to the papers obviously wants Rochford out.

Then they should be told to mind their own ****ing business until there is an actual vacancy. Its the Co Board's responsibility.

MattressRick · 13-08-2018 03:03PM

McGuiness is trying to make a career in soccer and it would be a stupid move to manage any intercounty gaa team now. He'll always have the job offers in county football whenever he walks away from the soccer.

ProudDUB · 13-08-2018 03:34PM

MattressRick wrote: »

McGuiness is trying to make a career in soccer and it would be a stupid move to manage any intercounty gaa team now. He'll always have the job offers in county football whenever he walks away from the soccer.

Maybe he's having a hard time actually getting a full time, paid job with soccer. Hence the interest in managing a GAA team again. If I was the owner of a professional soccer team, I might not want to hire someone who only decided to become a soccer coach last Tuesday and, who basically dedicated his entire life to a completely different sport for the guts of 30 years.

charlie14 · 13-08-2018 04:29PM

ProudDUB wrote: »

Maybe he's having a hard time actually getting a full time, paid job with soccer. Hence the interest in managing a GAA team again. If I was the owner of a professional soccer team, I might not want to hire someone who only decided to become a soccer coach last Tuesday and, who basically dedicated his entire life to a completely different sport for the guts of 30 years.

Perhaps I missed it, but I haven`t seen anywhere that McGuinness has expressed any interest in managing any GAA team or indeed any soccer team for that matter.
Last I heard he is was working on his soccer coaching badges to qualify for soccer management, and is hoping to get his final one around the beginning of the new year.
Doubt he is short of a few bob either. Money was good with Celtic, did ok financially from China I imagine and he has his weekly Irish Times column, his Sky gig and motivation workshops.

shockframe · 13-08-2018 04:45PM

McGuinness did some job with Donegal but his timing was perfect.

When he took over Kerry, Armagh and Tyrone had slipped back from their 00s glory years and Dublin were still finding their feet a bit,same goes for Mayo. Plus Cork would start to all.

If he goes back in now he has a different beast in Dublin to contend with. It would be a lot harder to bridge the gap now.

I'd like him back managing all the same.

muddle84 · 13-08-2018 04:52PM

shockframe wrote: »

McGuinness did some job with Donegal but his timing was perfect.

When he took over Kerry, Armagh and Tyrone had slipped back from their 00s glory years and Dublin were still finding their feet a bit,same goes for Mayo. Plus Cork would start to all.

If he goes back in now he has a different beast in Dublin to contend with. It would be a lot harder to bridge the gap now.

I'd like him back managing all the same.

Is that a typo? If not then I'm confused

shockframe · 13-08-2018 04:57PM

muddle84 wrote: »

Is that a typo? If not then I'm confused

What he did with Donegal was unreal but there was a lot that went his way.

Tyrone and Kerry had stared to fade and Dublin were not quite the force they are now.

ProudDUB · 13-08-2018 05:21PM

charlie14 wrote: »

Perhaps I missed it, but I haven`t seen anywhere that McGuinness has expressed any interest in managing any GAA team or indeed any soccer team for that matter.
Last I heard he is was working on his soccer coaching badges to qualify for soccer management, and is hoping to get his final one around the beginning of the new year.
Doubt he is short of a few bob either. Money was good with Celtic, did ok financially from China I imagine and he has his weekly Irish Times column, his Sky gig and motivation workshops.

He didn't. They never do. That's where all the fun in speculating comes from.

RobbieRuns · 13-08-2018 05:35PM

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/someone-knows-what-happened-to-my-beautiful-boy-dad-of-young-gaa-fan-who-died-in-a-manner-not-befitting-an-animal-37209605.html

This is beyond sad.................

padd b1975 · 13-08-2018 06:30PM

PressRun wrote: »

It's not going to happen. Total wishful thinking and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if that story was planted by someone with an axe to grind with Rochford.

Maybe even someone high up in the county board...

It's all very disrespectful to Rochford who has given no indication that he's even considering stepping down.

PressRun · 13-08-2018 06:32PM

padd b1975 wrote: »

Maybe even someone high up in the county board...

Would not be surprised at all.

muddle84 · 13-08-2018 06:40PM

shockframe wrote: »

muddle84 wrote: »

Is that a typo? If not then I'm confused

What he did with Donegal was unreal but there was a lot that went his way.

Tyrone and Kerry had stared to fade and Dublin were not quite the force they are now.

Yeah i agree with that somewhat with regard to donegal. But he never managed kerry? Thats the typo im talking about

shockframe · 13-08-2018 06:45PM

muddle84 wrote: »

Yeah i agree with that somewhat with regard to donegal. But he never managed kerry? Thats the typo im talking about

Yes should have said when he took over Donegal. Looks like I was saying he took over Kerry!

The Talking Bread · 13-08-2018 06:46PM

muddle84 wrote: »

Yeah i agree with that somewhat with regard to donegal. But he never managed kerry? Thats the typo im talking about

It is pretty clear what he was saying! There is a comma missing, but no need to be pedantic! :rolleyes:

padd b1975 · 13-08-2018 06:46PM

muddle84 wrote: »

Yeah i agree with that somewhat with regard to donegal. But he never managed kerry? Thats the typo im talking about

He would have to come up with a very different game plan for the current Mayo panel.

There's no way they could do it Donegal 12/14 style with the amount of miles on the clock.

The Talking Bread · 13-08-2018 06:50PM

shockframe wrote: »

Yes should have said when he took over Donegal. Looks like I was saying he took over Kerry!

I actually thought you were saying "When he took over (ie took over Donegal), Kerry, Armagh and Tyrone had slipped back from their 00s glory years and Dublin were still finding their feet a bit,same goes for Mayo. Plus Cork would start to all!

wirelessdude01 · 13-08-2018 07:36PM

Looks like someone is trying to destabilise the manager, wouldn't surprise me in the slightest is someone high enough up the command structure of the county board is briefing against him.

If there is indeed any semblance of truth to the money being available then it should be made available to the running of the team and not just one individual.

I personally think that having a summer off for everyone could have been for the best. Recharge the batteries, lads get to enjoy themselves outside of a stressful environment.

PressRun · 13-08-2018 07:46PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Looks like someone is trying to destabilise the manager, wouldn't surprise me in the slightest is someone high enough up the command structure of the county board is briefing against him.

I've said it before but if this mayo team ever win an all Ireland it'll be in spite of that county board.

muddle84 · 13-08-2018 08:46PM

The Talking Bread wrote: »

muddle84 wrote: »

Yeah i agree with that somewhat with regard to donegal. But he never managed kerry? Thats the typo im talking about

It is pretty clear what he was saying! There is a comma missing, but no need to be pedantic! :rolleyes:

Cant help it. If youre going to be a pedant its all or nothing!!

muddle84 · 13-08-2018 08:48PM

Perfect timing:

https://twitter.com/mayonewssport/status/1029083280300290049?s=19

km79 · 13-08-2018 08:49PM

muddle84 wrote: »

Perfect timing:

https://twitter.com/mayonewssport/status/1029083280300290049?s=19

That's the end of that so
About time tbh

Now let the scouting begin !

blowitupref · 13-08-2018 08:54PM

muddle84 wrote: »

Perfect timing:

https://twitter.com/mayonewssport/status/1029083280300290049?s=19

Must be a good replacement coming in for Donie Buckley that he has decided to say on?

Coillte_Bhoy · 13-08-2018 08:58PM

PressRun wrote: »

I've said it before but if this mayo team ever win an all Ireland it'll be in spite of that county board.

There isnt an iota of evidence suggesting anyone in the Co Board is behind this. And after all it's The Sun ffs :rolleyes:

km79 · 13-08-2018 08:59PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

PressRun wrote: »

I've said it before but if this mayo team ever win an all Ireland it'll be in spite of that county board.

There isnt an iota of evidence suggesting anyone in the Co Board is behind this. And after all it's The Sun ffs :rolleyes:

It was in the independent but irrelevant now anyway

Audioslaven · 13-08-2018 10:55PM

http://www.hoganstand.com/Article/Index/289095

He always has a good word to say about us and I like listening to him

charlie14 · 13-08-2018 11:19PM

shockframe wrote: »

McGuinness did some job with Donegal but his timing was perfect.

When he took over Kerry, Armagh and Tyrone had slipped back from their 00s glory years and Dublin were still finding their feet a bit,same goes for Mayo. Plus Cork would start to all.

If he goes back in now he has a different beast in Dublin to contend with. It would be a lot harder to bridge the gap now.

I'd like him back managing all the same.

I don`t know about his timing being perfect. He basically only got the job at his third attempt because nobody else wanted it.
I don`t think Dublin are that different a beast now. They won the AI in 2011 again in 2013 and were also being talked about, same as now, unbeatable in 2014 until McGuinness tactically took them apart.

naughto · 13-08-2018 11:47PM

Pat fallon and Kevin o neill part back room team

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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