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  • #1982
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,302 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Omackeral wrote: »
    John Connors is a wanker thread.




    Is there a John Connors? Well I suppose there's lots of John Connors but what i'm asking The thread above ,is it about a particular John Connors? Or in this case does John Connors just mean a typical traveler?
    Genuine question. The answer might be obvious to everyone but I autistic & I'm genuinely stumped on this one


    Anyone please help?


  • #1983
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Omackeral wrote: »
    John Connors is a wanker thread.




    Is there a John Connors? Well I suppose there's lots of John Connors but what i'm asking The thread above ,is it about a particular John Connors? Or in this case does John Connors just mean a typical traveler?
    Genuine question. The answer might be obvious to everyone but I autistic & I'm genuinely stumped on this one


    Anyone please help?

    John Connors the alleged actor and full time utter apologist for criminals.


  • #1984
    Mongfinder General
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    Igotadose wrote: »
    Social pressure can change this. When her peers start frowning on her (too late for this woman) about her CHOICES to have so many children, they'll have fewer children, and consequently more options. Repealing the 8th was key to this being a possible behavior. If all of a sudden, families start having only one or two children, more and more will. The financial incentives are likely less important; people don't think or behave in their own best interests, they think emotionally, and if the emotions associated with having too many children are negative, it'll stop.

    Another reason to reduce the influence of the RCC in Irish life, they're the big pushers of big families all in service to the church, but they only have their own vested interests at heart, money and power, and children to abuse.

    Are you for real? Abortions for the most part will be utilized by feminist, career driven women and those that really need them for health reasons. We will have less children being raised in families that have a decent work ethic and more being raised by welfare scrounging layabouts. When the easy way out is rewarded every time more and more of us are going to take it.


  • #1985
    yabadabado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Is there a John Connors? Well I suppose there's lots of John Connors but what i'm asking The thread above ,is it about a particular John Connors? Or in this case does John Connors just mean a typical traveler?
    Genuine question. The answer might be obvious to everyone but I autistic & I'm genuinely stumped on this one


    Anyone please help?

    They are talking about John Connors the actor.I say actor but I doubt he's stretching his acting ability too much.


  • #1986
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,302 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    John Connors the alleged actor and full time utter apologist for criminals.
    yabadabado wrote: »
    They are talking about John Connors the actor.I say actor but I doubt he's stretching his acting ability too much.
    Thank you both. It makes sence now


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  • #1987
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    strandroad wrote: »
    She's not doing it out of malice, it's how she sees life and is probably third+ generation doing it this way. Her children will become the fourth and they will always expect cash and houses to be simply handed to them; they will lash out at the society if there's any delay too. They've never seen different. This is how you are brought up antisocial to the core.

    It's great that her children are already being written off. Maybe if the state was in a position to provide the stability of actual homes (yes, 'forever homes', rather than handing over stupid amounts of money to a succession of reluctant private landlords) for families to rent, things could be very different. Maybe if the previous Fine Gael/Labour government hadn't eliminated supports aimed at ensuring Travellers remain in education, things could be very different.

    In keeping with the After Hours tendency to view human beings solely as economic entities, maybe it's wrong (economically as well as morally) to write those children off. Maybe they have the potential to provide a good return on the initial investment, earning wages, paying taxes and helping to ensure that the rest of us are comfortable in our retirement.

    Or maybe you could tell us what you really think - that they should be liquidated.


  • #1988
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,126 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    dav3 wrote: »
    It's true, what are the figures again? Something like half the population receiving some form of welfare. That means around half the people posting in this thread are welfare scum.

    I know the thinking in certain places would be to execute them all, but I would at least give them a chance at trying to educate themselves or finding a job. The other half on here should just work harder.

    Troll.


  • #1989
    Trigger Happy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

    Or maybe you could tell us what you really think - that they should be liquidated.

    Ah no, who has been saying we should be killing kids?


  • #1990
    yabadabado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    dav3 wrote: »
    It's true, what are the figures again? Something like half the population receiving some form of welfare. That means around half the people posting in this thread are welfare scum.

    I know the thinking in certain places would be to execute them all, but I would at least give them a chance at trying to educate themselves or finding a job. The other half on here should just work harder.

    Any link to back up your figures ?
    Can you tell us what portion of these welfare rceiptents are people who paid into the system?


  • #1991
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    yabadabado wrote: »
    dav3 wrote: »
    It's true, what are the figures again? Something like half the population receiving some form of welfare. That means around half the people posting in this thread are welfare scum.

    I know the thinking in certain places would be to execute them all, but I would at least give them a chance at trying to educate themselves or finding a job. The other half on here should just work harder.

    Any link to back up your figures ?
    Can you tell us what portion of these welfare rceiptents are people who paid into the system?

    Unless you're including fines I'd say a tiny number.


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  • #1992
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    It's great that her children are already being written off. Maybe if the state was in a position to provide the stability of actual homes (yes, 'forever homes', rather than handing over stupid amounts of money to a succession of reluctant private landlords) for families to rent, things could be very different. Maybe if the previous Fine Gael/Labour government hadn't eliminated supports aimed at ensuring Travellers remain in education, things could be very different.

    In keeping with the After Hours tendency to view human beings solely as economic entities, maybe it's wrong (economically as well as morally) to write those children off. Maybe they have the potential to provide a good return on the initial investment, earning wages, paying taxes and helping to ensure that the rest of us are comfortable in our retirement.

    Or maybe you could tell us what you really think - that they should be liquidated.

    There's no need for that actually, I'm not writing it with malice, I actually have a lot of compassion for these children whether you believe it or not. But what chance do they have if in their entire young lives they never see anyone work? Why would they like to work? Work is effort, it takes your day and it carries a risk. I probably wouldn't like to work or learn if it wasn't the norm for me growing up, why would I? What would be the advantage? Why would I want to challenge my upbringing if I could achieve the same or better staying within my norms? Why would I want to be a revolutionary?

    I actually have compassion for the mother too, she didn't have a lot of chances to break out by the look of it, but I am also aware that giving the level of support we do we are making sure this attitude is passed on, and multiplied. Because it's highly advantageous, and it's a rational approach to follow it. I would probably follow it myself.


  • #1993
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,126 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Heres Johnny wrote: »
    Not a hope will the kids be valuable members of society. They have the gypsy DNA. It's incurable.

    Now hang on, they have to be given a chance all 7 of them. But when I say a chance I mean make them get an education, if they refuse the parent (casho) gets held responsible and has to do a 39 hr community service week for not teaching her kids how to contribute to society. When the kids turn 18 if they’re not working, they’ll have to work voluntarily for 39 hrs to contribute to society.
    This ISNT just for travelers or immigrants it should be for all people, from Dennis o briens children (if he has any) to miss cash’s litter of pups.


  • #1994
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,688 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Mongfinder General wrote: »
    Are you for real? Abortions for the most part will be utilized by feminist, career driven women and those that really need them for health reasons. We will have less children being raised in families that have a decent work ethic and more being raised by welfare scrounging layabouts. When the easy way out is rewarded every time more and more of us are going to take it.

    The woman most likely to have an abortion already has children. They're the ones that understand what they're getting into. If you think abortion's the 'easy way out,' you're misinformed.

    I do like the attempt at demonizing feminism, though.


  • #1995
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Alrigghtythen wrote: »
    By the same logic, instead of constantly winning in the media about how hard done by they are, why don't these people go out, pull themselves up by the bootstraps and earn more money?

    Ah please, that requires getting up off ones arse, or in this case back. It's much easier to put out the paw with the sob story and next thing it's raining 'cash' :p


  • #1996
    yabadabado
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,634 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    How can she be expected to teach her kids to contribute to society when she clearly doesn't.


  • #1997
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    strandroad wrote: »
    There's no need for that actually, I'm not writing it with malice, I actually have a lot of compassion for these children whether you believe it or not. But what chance do they have if in their entire young lives they never see anyone work? Why would they like to work? Work is effort, it takes your day and it carries a risk. I probably wouldn't like to work or learn if it wasn't the norm for me growing up, why would I? What would be the advantage? Why would I want to challenge my upbringing if I could achieve the same or better staying within my norms? Why would I want to be a revolutionary?

    I actually have compassion for the mother too, she didn't have a lot of chances to break out by the look of it, but I am also aware that giving the level of support we do we are making sure this attitude is passed on, and multiplied. Because it's highly advantageous, and it's a rational approach to follow it. I would probably follow it myself.

    Sorry, I went off on a bit of a tangent; only my first paragraph was a response to your post. My reference to 'liquidation' was a general comment on the tendency to view people in terms of their economic usefulness.


  • #1998
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    yabadabado wrote: »
    How can she be expected to teach her kids to contribute to society when she clearly doesn't.

    That doesn't figure in her mindset. They are being taught what she probably was, breed,sponge,breed,sponge. It can be a vicious generational circle.

    Or Coors,Vodka,Waterford crystal etc.


  • #1999
    22michael44
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭22michael44


    Heres Johnny wrote: »
    Not a hope will the kids be valuable members of society. They have the gypsy DNA. It's incurable.

    lol at this post coming right after the one above it. lovely stuff.


  • #2000
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    My dad did National Service (I'm reminded of this as he served in Cyprus and it's in the papers today).

    If you are not in education, an apprenticeship or job - you earn the money we give you in some way.

    Why not national service or a form of it? And if your kids are not in school - you get punished. None of this "culture" bollocks. Fines, jail if need be.


  • #2001
    22michael44
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭22michael44


    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    My dad did National Service (I'm reminded of this as he served in Cyprus and it's in the papers today).

    If you are not in education, an apprenticeship or job - you earn the money we give you in some way.

    Why not national service or a form of it? And if your kids are not in school - you get punished. None of this "culture" bollocks. Fines, jail if need be.

    we can't seem to jail violent criminals at the moment, baby steps. compulsory national service, are you on crack?


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  • #2002
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    22michael44 wrote: »
    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    My dad did National Service (I'm reminded of this as he served in Cyprus and it's in the papers today).

    If you are not in education, an apprenticeship or job - you earn the money we give you in some way.

    Why not national service or a form of it? And if your kids are not in school - you get punished. None of this "culture" bollocks. Fines, jail if need be.

    we can't seem to jail violent criminals at the moment, baby steps. compulsory national service, are you on crack?

    Like I could afford crack! I work for a living, I can barely afford a beer.


  • #2003
    Heres Johnny
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Heres Johnny


    One blessing is that most arse scratchers on the dole spend a lot of it on cigarettes and alcohol and give it back.
    And scratch cards, they've been used to stealthily tax the underclass for years!


  • #2004
    Sycamore Tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    I keep reading 7 children here. I thought it was 6. Why are people now saying 7?
    Family of 7.


  • #2005
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,330 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Sycamore Tree wrote: »
    I keep reading 7 children here. I thought it was 6. Why are people now saying 7?
    Family of 7.



    There was another she left with a relative.


  • #2006
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Sycamore Tree wrote: »
    I keep reading 7 children here. I thought it was 6. Why are people now saying 7?
    Family of 7.

    She has 6 sons and 1 daughter.


  • #2007
    Sycamore Tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    I blame Rome


  • #2008
    henryporter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    Sycamore Tree wrote: »
    I keep reading 7 children here. I thought it was 6. Why are people now saying 7?
    Family of 7.
    She had another in the Garda Station and apparently is due again to give birth to twins next Friday!


  • #2009
    Taylor365
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭Taylor365


    Pay people to have kids they said.



    It'll be grand they said.


  • #2010
    ayux4rj6zql2ph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,717 ✭✭✭ayux4rj6zql2ph


    Taylor365 wrote: »
    Pay people to have kids they said.



    It'll be grand they said.
    No Incentive to work


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  • #2011
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,330 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    The father/fathers would be less inclined to be banging them in her if there was a proper financial contribution required for the upkeep of their offspring.


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