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Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

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  • #1952
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    After a house burglary many miles from home, she was found in a car full of stolen goods. The other occupants of the car fled. She partakes in the 'travelling gangs' that terrorise the country.


  • #1953
    Sleeper12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,302 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    downtheroad wrote:
    Just listening to the Niall Boylan podcast on this topic. 4FM have gained a new listener in me and I will stop listening to Newstalk which I've been listening to for years. He's not perfect but at least he is challenging this fiasco unlike all of the presenters on Newstalk, Today FM and RTE.


    I wonder where Hook would stand on this if he was still allowed to voice his opinion


  • #1954
    22michael44
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭22michael44


    KevinCavan wrote: »
    No idea why they are wearing school uniforms in August.

    Sure the children have nothing else to wear boss.[/QUOTE]

    the school uniform thing was debunked a few pages back. can't we at least stay on the legitimate things to criticise?


  • #1955
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,004 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    dav3 wrote: »
    Instead of people constantly whining in this thread about how much tax they have to pay and how difficult their life was, and still is, why don't you earn more money?

    No matter how much tax you think you pay, you're nothing special. Your superiors and betters who pay considerably more tax see you as worthless. How much tax do the wingers pay in taxes anyway? It's probably only in the thousands every year, it would barely cover the cost of a street lamp on your road.

    I think everyone is fed up with the non-stop moaning from the "squeezed middle". Always looking for a handout or a tax break from the government when it comes to budget time. What kind of example are you setting for your children with your continual sob stories?

    I love nothing more than comparing how much tax I pay over a homeless or unemployed person (we all do), it gives me an immense feeling of superiority over them. However, there comes a time when you have to stop the whining, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, and go out there and work harder to better yourself.

    Until you're paying millions in tax every year, you're barely contributing anything to this country.

    Non stop moaning...?

    Crikey,up until LV used the term,few even nodded in our direction.

    As for earning more money (legally),that possibility was neatly eliminated with the introduction of the "Working Time Directive" with it's all encompassing restrictions on Employed persons working too much. :eek:

    Mind you,if your self employed then off ye trot !


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #1956
    Doctors room ghost
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    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    Any sign of the father (or fathers) of these 7 children showing an interest in their welfare?

    Them are Tom cats not fathers.one of them is in jail.nice bunch of folk


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  • #1957
    1eg0a3xv7b82of
    Closed Accounts Posts: 996 ✭✭✭1eg0a3xv7b82of


    The whole system makes no sense when you have a better standard of living if you are on the dole versus working on minimum wages
    No can deny it as the numbers don’t lie.
    And the welfare system allows generations of families to be financed completely by the state.
    There is nothing that can be done to change this as the state do not want to increase min wage to a living wage nor build council homes on the scale needed as that will make property prices drop again.
    The welfare state will never change Because of certain vested interests Such as the Public sector legal medical private landlords


  • #1958
    PlaneSpeeking
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    AlekSmart wrote: »
    dav3 wrote: »
    Instead of people constantly whining in this thread about how much tax they have to pay and how difficult their life was, and still is, why don't you earn more money?

    No matter how much tax you think you pay, you're nothing special. Your superiors and betters who pay considerably more tax see you as worthless. How much tax do the wingers pay in taxes anyway? It's probably only in the thousands every year, it would barely cover the cost of a street lamp on your road.

    I think everyone is fed up with the non-stop moaning from the "squeezed middle". Always looking for a handout or a tax break from the government when it comes to budget time. What kind of example are you setting for your children with your continual sob stories?

    I love nothing more than comparing how much tax I pay over a homeless or unemployed person (we all do), it gives me an immense feeling of superiority over them. However, there comes a time when you have to stop the whining, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, and go out there and work harder to better yourself.

    Until you're paying millions in tax every year, you're barely contributing anything to this country.

    Non stop moaning...?

    Crikey,up until LV used the term,few even nodded in our direction.

    As for earning more money (legally),that possibility was neatly eliminated with the introduction of the "Working Time Directive" with it's all encompassing restrictions on Employed persons working too much. :eek:

    Mind you,if your self employed then off ye trot !

    And there was I about to ignore the three loads of washing up and the kitchen floor and see if Easons needed a paper girl.

    Already done 48 at least this week tho so sadly prohibited.


  • #1959
    22michael44
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭22michael44


    well done @dav3 on your exquisite trolling.


  • #1960
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,321 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Wanderer2010 wrote: »
    Any sign of the father (or fathers) of these 7 children showing an interest in their welfare?


    In most countries they would be locked up for non payment, here they might be asked to pay €2.75 per child per month towards their upkeep and still would not pay it.


  • #1961
    BorneTobyWilde
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    I keep reading title as ''family of seven sheep in garda station''


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  • #1962
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    In most countries they would be locked up for non payment, here they might be asked to pay €2.75 per child per month towards their upkeep and still would not pay it.

    Take it out of their wages.....oh wait, there's a major flaw in that logic.

    Imagine the da's rocking up to collect their sole and only getting half then being told the rest went towards their kids upkeep. ;)


  • #1963
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    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    I keep reading title as ''family of seven sheep in garda station''

    Maybe they’re sheeple?


  • #1964
    Wanderer2010
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,743 ✭✭✭Wanderer2010


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    Them are Tom cats not fathers.one of them is in jail.nice bunch of folk

    She then had even more children with these cretins, should have tried some contraception at least instead of bringing so many children into the world. Did she have more children since being made homeless? If so very irresponsible.


  • #1965
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    Cantona's Collars wrote: »
    Take it out of their wages.....oh wait, there's a major flaw in that logic.

    Imagine the da's rocking up to collect their sole and only getting half then being told the rest went towards their kids upkeep. ;)

    This would be so easy to do. When a child is registered for children's allowance, the PPS number of the mother and father should be included on the application. If the same PPS number presents for a dole payment it should be docked at a rate depending on the number of children associated with that number. Will never happen though after the bloody fiasco uproar over the Public Services Card fiasco.


  • #1966
    goat2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,939 ✭✭✭goat2


    Had they turned down a home already, this is what someone said this morning, I have not read anything as to why they are homeless


  • #1967
    paw patrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Trigger Happy wrote: »
    Paul Murphy makes me grind my teeth. Free everything for everybody except the privileged who earn over €30k.

    there is something about most of the arch-socialist types , they were all born into money. Their cause and leading others astray is nothing more than 2 fingers to daddy and their upbringing.


  • #1968
    Alrigghtythen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,365 ✭✭✭Alrigghtythen


    Has glen hansard made any comment?


  • #1969
    PlaneSpeeking
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    paw patrol wrote: »
    Trigger Happy wrote: »
    Paul Murphy makes me grind my teeth. Free everything for everybody except the privileged who earn over €30k.

    there is something about most of the arch-socialist types , they were all born into money. Their cause and leading others astray is nothing more than 2 fingers to daddy and their upbringing.

    Cf that knob Corbyn and his fawning acolytes in the UK.


  • #1970
    dermo888
    Site Banned Posts: 160 ✭✭dermo888


    I would'nt mind. I was going to be sympathetic, up until a point. The moment I saw the surname 'Cash', and the age of the lady in question, I thought.......hmmm.......
    28 years old, 7 children. I see it for what it is. A staged publicity stunt designed to get a sympathy vote.


  • #1971
    dav3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    Non stop moaning...?

    Crikey,up until LV used the term,few even nodded in our direction.

    As for earning more money (legally),that possibility was neatly eliminated with the introduction of the "Working Time Directive" with it's all encompassing restrictions on Employed persons working too much. :eek:

    Mind you,if your self employed then off ye trot !

    *ahem*, let me clear my throat. You'll have to read this in the most patronising voice possible.

    Have any of you ever asked for a raise in work? How about getting a better paid job? Perhaps looking at getting a better education?

    You could also give up the sky tv, reduce your internet package to a cheaper option or maybe give it up completely. What about buying a less expensive phone?

    I haven't given this any thought, but I've still managed to come up with a few ideas. If you people refuse all this help, you only have yourselves to blame.


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  • #1972
    Gen.Zhukov
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,114 ✭✭✭Gen.Zhukov


    Hypothetical social welfare office scenario.


    Hello, I am self-employed but after years my company became a causality of the recession.
    Ok, so you paid all your taxes, employed people, paid your VAT on time, took a tiny salary, bought company vehicles etc, is that correct?
    Yes.
    And what, you want us to give you some money?
    Yes please.
    Fcuk off ! NEXT!


    Hi, I’m Margaret.
    Hi Margaret, what do you do?
    Fcuk all.
    Have you ever done anything useful?
    No.
    Are you looking for money?
    Yes, I’m ‘titled’ to it.
    Ok, how much money would you like.
    Well, cos of the childer I suppose maybe 50k?
    That sounds reasonable Margaret, just sign here.

    This post was brought to you by The Department of Social Welfare. ‘An initiative of the Government of Ireland.’


  • #1973
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    Gen.Zhukov wrote: »
    Hypothetical social welfare office scenario.


    Hello, I am self-employed but after years my company became a causality of the recession.
    Ok, so you paid all your taxes, employed people, paid your VAT on time, took a tiny salary, bought company vehicles etc, is that correct?
    Yes.
    And what, you want us to give you some money?
    Yes please.
    Fcuk off ! NEXT!


    Hi, I’m Margaret.
    Hi Margaret, what do you do?
    Fcuk all.
    Have you ever done anything useful?
    No.
    Are you looking for money?
    Yes, I’m ‘titled’ to it.
    Ok, how much money would you like.
    Well, cos of the childer I suppose maybe 50k?
    That sounds reasonable Margaret, just sign here.

    This post was brought to you by The Department of Social Welfare. ‘An initiative of the Government of Ireland.’

    It's sad that isn't actually satire but has happened. Perhaps in nicer terms but the end result is the same.


  • #1974
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,687 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Social pressure can change this. When her peers start frowning on her (too late for this woman) about her CHOICES to have so many children, they'll have fewer children, and consequently more options. Repealing the 8th was key to this being a possible behavior. If all of a sudden, families start having only one or two children, more and more will. The financial incentives are likely less important; people don't think or behave in their own best interests, they think emotionally, and if the emotions associated with having too many children are negative, it'll stop.

    Another reason to reduce the influence of the RCC in Irish life, they're the big pushers of big families all in service to the church, but they only have their own vested interests at heart, money and power, and children to abuse.


  • #1975
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,230 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    From an interview with Mrs Cash:
    “About having a few beers, so you are not allowed to have a few beers, all because you’re homeless?"
    Margaret explained: “My young one (*described like a tool or utility I guess) made her First Communion, I got her a nice Communion dress, so what? I got my child a nice ­Communion dress.
    “Everyone has a past, I was only a young woman, everyone does stupid things when they are young. But that doesn’t stop the council from giving me somewhere to live.

    “This (hot goods case) is nothing to do with it, even if I was the biggest criminal in Ireland, there are murderers and rapists out there who get houses off the bloody council.
    The single mum said: “He’s (the father) not around. I’m on my own with the kids. People think having the kids is really, really hard, but I think they’re great. That’s what I do. That’s my life. If we had a house we would be OK.
    “I know there are people on Facebook saying, ‘Why did you have so many kids?’ You don’t plan to have so many kids, it just happens."

    That's the mentality unfortunately that the welfare state has grown. Not much personal responsibility to be seen.


  • #1976
    PlaneSpeeking
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    From an interview with Mrs Cash:
    “About having a few beers, so you are not allowed to have a few beers, all because you’re homeless?"
    Margaret explained: “My young one (*described like a tool or utility I guess) made her First Communion, I got her a nice Communion dress, so what? I got my child a nice ­Communion dress.
    “Everyone has a past, I was only a young woman, everyone does stupid things when they are young. But that doesn’t stop the council from giving me somewhere to live.

    “This (hot goods case) is nothing to do with it, even if I was the biggest criminal in Ireland, there are murderers and rapists out there who get houses off the bloody council.
    The single mum said: “He’s (the father) not around. I’m on my own with the kids. People think having the kids is really, really hard, but I think they’re great. That’s what I do. That’s my life. If we had a house we would be OK.


    “I know there are people on Facebook saying, ‘Why did you have so many kids?’ You don’t plan to have so many kids, it just happens."

    That's the mentality unfortunately that the welfare state has grown. Not much personal responsibility to be seen.

    Having kids doesn't f***ing JUST HAPPEN!!!!

    So furious reading her garbage.


  • #1977
    strandroad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭strandroad


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    That's the mentality unfortunately that the welfare state has grown. Not much personal responsibility to be seen.

    What is really sad here is that this is her genuine reality. She's not doing it out of malice, it's how she sees life and is probably third+ generation doing it this way. Her children will become the fourth and they will always expect cash and houses to be simply handed to them; they will lash out at the society if there's any delay too. They've never seen different. This is how you are brought up antisocial to the core.


  • #1978
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,230 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    strandroad wrote: »
    What is really sad here is that this is her genuine reality. She's not doing it out of malice, it's how she sees life and is probably third+ generation doing it this way. Her children will become the fourth and they will always expect cash and houses to be simply handed to them; they will lash out at the society if there's any delay too. They've never seen different. This is how you are brought up antisocial to the core.

    It's psychological engineering. People who tend to get everything for nothing tend not to respect anything naturally.

    You can imagine how ingrained that would be after 2 or 3 generations.

    I don't actually blame them for that mentality.

    They are still leeching though at the end of the day.


  • #1979
    [Deleted User]
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    john4321 wrote: »
    John Connors is chiming in on Twitter.

    "The homeless Traveller woman who slept in a Gardai station with her children is getting an incredible amount of hate online. Reality is that if she were a settled woman she would be receiving an incredible amount of support. The Last Acceptable form of Racism In Ireland."
    Heres Johnny wrote: »
    John Connors is a Muppet.


    John Connors is a wanker thread.


  • #1980
    PlaneSpeeking
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    Omackeral wrote: »
    john4321 wrote: »
    John Connors is chiming in on Twitter.

    "The homeless Traveller woman who slept in a Gardai station with her children is getting an incredible amount of hate online. Reality is that if she were a settled woman she would be receiving an incredible amount of support. The Last Acceptable form of Racism In Ireland."
    Heres Johnny wrote: »
    John Connors is a Muppet.


    John Connors is a wanker thread.

    I still maintain you put that on a tshirt and youd be set for life.


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  • #1981
    markodaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,313 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Has the women ever heard of birth control. Having 7 kids doesnt just happen if you use birth control.


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