Heavy fines every night your dog barks in a populated area?

10-08-2018 12:59AM #1

I've moved twice in this city because of dogs and while my new place has been lovely and quiet, for some reason a dog has been going crazy all night. First time I've had this problem in seven months.

It reminds me of how awful life was with bad sleep. The difference in every aspect of your life is crazy. I've been awake since 2am because of it, it's near 7am now and I'm in work in an hour with a busy day and a lot of coding to do this evening.

I wouldn't say this neighbour deserves a fine but people with dogs who consistently bark should be given enormous fines. Like 100euro a night or something. If they don't want to pay, they can stay up with their dog and keep it quiet.

sexmag · 10-08-2018 01:02AM

You're aware dogs will bark for a lot of reasons,mainly because a cat is on the wall or someone is making noise near the house, even a dog walked all day will still bark at these things, fining owners without knowing the circumstances is wrong

arybvtcw0eolkf · 10-08-2018 01:06AM

I'm scourged with three dogs at my rear barking day and night, poor little things.

I love dogs and have two of my own, so I can't understand how some people can not include them as part of the family and leave them out the bark to bark all day.

Poor little things

10-08-2018 01:16AM

sexmag wrote: »

You're aware dogs will bark for a lot of reasons,mainly because a cat is on the wall or someone is making noise near the house, even a dog walked all day will still bark at these things, fining owners without knowing the circumstances is wrong

I'm specifically talking about dogs who just bark all night, every night. I've had it twice really bad and those owners should be fined or the dogs taken away.

The alternative is to have zero repercussions for affecting dozens of people and I don't think that's ok.

Montgolfier · 10-08-2018 01:18AM

Sure where is a dog supposed to come up with that sort of cash?

NIMAN · 10-08-2018 01:35AM

I have no idea why the human need for a load of dogs in built up areas?

I like dogs, but don't feel the need to have one as a pet. I have had the scourge of them barking too, and as a shift worker, it wasn't always night time barking that was the problem.

10-08-2018 05:26AM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

Don't get me wrong Ads by Google, but if you were really, really, really, tired like.... would you be bothered by a dog barking?

I started to feel really really really tired just before I had to leave the house, because I had a dog barking from 2am. Now, I'm on lunch and I'm totally fuked.

Are you really implying that no one has problems with noise because they can just sleep if they're tired?

DivingDuck · 10-08-2018 05:37AM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

Don't get me wrong Ads by Google, but if you were really, really, really, tired like.... would you be bothered by a dog barking?

Yes. Some people are just bothered by the sound of a dog barking itself hoarse. It will wake me even if I am sleeping.

bobbyss · 10-08-2018 05:38AM

Deleted User wrote:

I've moved twice in this city because of dogs and while my new place has been lovely and quiet, for some reason a dog has been going crazy all night. First time I've had this problem in seven months.

What about contacting the residents association? What are the views of other nearby neighbours?

10-08-2018 05:57AM

bobbyss wrote: »

What about contacting the residents association? What are the views of other nearby neighbours?

It's Vietnam. No one cares.

Collie D · 10-08-2018 06:25AM

Considering this new information regarding your location, have you thought about eating it?

10-08-2018 06:41AM

Collie D wrote: »

Considering this new information regarding your location, have you thought about eating it?

I wanted to sell those other dogs to restaurants, but as I say, I'm not mad at my neighbour or their dog since it was a once-off. It just reminded me of how shlt my life was when I could never get a good sleep.

The Rape of Lucretia · 10-08-2018 06:50AM

https://www.ultimatebarkcontrol.com/dog-silencer.htm

A few quid, but maybe worth it to you.

Malayalam · 10-08-2018 07:43AM

I agree, OP, it's horrible. I am a light sleeper, plus if I don't sleep well I feel like I have been injected with poison the next day! Here is rural but a barking dog in the distance will wake me, and last week for 2 nights in a row a dog barking followed by his master cursing long and aggressively at him into the still night air finished my sleep at 2 am for the night. I could cheerfully have strangled both. Why have an animal if you are going to abuse it like that? To be out on the hill in the middle of the night roaring filthy abuse at a poor creature is almost psychopathic.
Once my nearest neighbours went on holidays for a week and left their dog in a sheep trailer. Another neighbour came and threw food into it every couple of days. The dog barked non-stop for a week, it was outrageous. I could not report it as to make trouble with neighbours in such a rural place is a serious issue. But I have no time for those people anymore and am passingly polite to them, nothing more. I have always had dogs until my last dog died, and even though I am not a tactile rubby-rubby licky-licky doggy-person, I would not have them treated with anything less than affection. If your dog barks repeatedly at night, bring it into the house and mind it - otherwise, don't keep a dog.

forward8 · 10-08-2018 07:45AM

No problem, just pick the dog up and put it in your garden, see how they like it.

All jokes aside I used to live right beside what must have been one of the worst dogs for barking in all of Ireland. It would sleep only for 15 minutes max then spend hours barking day and night. This was a big dog and when it barked you could feel it. I clocked this dog barking 800+ times in a single hour, spent years having to sleep on the sofa as I couldn't sleep in my bedroom at the back of the house. Owners were stereotypical anti social council rats who walked the dog maybe once or twice a year.

The legal process to deal with a barking dog in Ireland is lengthy and antiquated which is a shame, these dogs can be the f*****g scourge of an area.

fxotoole · 10-08-2018 07:49AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've moved twice in this city because of dogs and while my new place has been lovely and quiet, for some reason a dog has been going crazy all night. First time I've had this problem in seven months.

It reminds me of how awful life was with bad sleep. The difference in every aspect of your life is crazy. I've been awake since 2am because of it, it's near 7am now and I'm in work in an hour with a busy day and a lot of coding to do this evening.

I wouldn't say this neighbour deserves a fine but people with dogs who consistently bark should be given enormous fines. Like 100euro a night or something. If they don't want to pay, they can stay up with their dog and keep it quiet.

Best of luck policing & enforcing that

bobbyss · 10-08-2018 07:55AM

Deleted User wrote:

It's Vietnam. No one cares.

Vietnam?

Graces7 · 10-08-2018 08:00AM

Malayalam wrote: »

I agree, OP, it's horrible. I am a light sleeper, plus if I don't sleep well I feel like I have been injected with poison the next day! Here is rural but a barking dog in the distance will wake me, and last week for 2 nights in a row a dog barking followed by his master cursing long and aggressively at him into the still night air finished my sleep at 2 am for the night. I could cheerfully have strangled both. Why have an animal if you are going to abuse it like that? To be out on the hill in the middle of the night roaring filthy abuse at a poor creature is almost psychopathic.
Once my nearest neighbours went on holidays for a week and left their dog in a sheep trailer. Another neighbour came and threw food into it every couple of days. The dog barked non-stop for a week, it was outrageous. I could not report it as to make trouble with neighbours in such a rural place is a serious issue. But I have no time for those people anymore and am passingly polite to them, nothing more. I have always had dogs until my last dog died, and even though I am not a tactile rubby-rubby licky-licky doggy-person, I would not have them treated with anything less than affection. If your dog barks repeatedly at night, bring it into the house and mind it - otherwise, don't keep a dog.

disagree strongly.

I have always reported animal abuse and I am deep rural.

Speak to the owner first... then report

Poor critters deserve better treatment than this and no sympathy if you do nothing.

Malayalam · 10-08-2018 08:00AM

forward8 wrote: »

No problem, just pick the dog up and put it in your garden, see how they like it.

All jokes aside I used to live right beside what must have been one of the worst dogs for barking in all of Ireland. It would sleep only for 15 minutes max then spend hours barking day and night. This was a big dog and when it barked you could feel it. I clocked this dog barking 800+ times in a single hour, spent years having to sleep on the sofa as I couldn't sleep in my bedroom at the back of the house. Owners were stereotypical anti social council rats who walked the dog maybe once or twice a year.

The legal process to deal with a barking dog in Ireland is lengthy and antiquated which is a shame, these dogs can be the f*****g scourge of an area.

That must have been a nightmare.

freshpopcorn · 10-08-2018 08:02AM

Mod Note
Don't encourage animal abuse!

Malayalam · 10-08-2018 08:04AM

Graces7 wrote: »

disagree strongly.

I have always reported animal abuse and I am deep rural.

Speak to the owner first... then report

Poor critters deserve better treatment than this and no sympathy if you do nothing.

Of course they deserve better, the poor things. But I prioritise my privacy, invisibility and peace, and I am not interested in going to war with people. Have seen too much of that with others to know it is just a recipe for bad vibes non-stop. Not my desired life choice.

Graces7 · 10-08-2018 08:04AM

forward8 wrote: »

No problem, just pick the dog up and put it in your garden, see how they like it.

All jokes aside I used to live right beside what must have been one of the worst dogs for barking in all of Ireland. It would sleep only for 15 minutes max then spend hours barking day and night. This was a big dog and when it barked you could feel it. I clocked this dog barking 800+ times in a single hour, spent years having to sleep on the sofa as I couldn't sleep in my bedroom at the back of the house. Owners were stereotypical anti social council rats who walked the dog maybe once or twice a year.

The legal process to deal with a barking dog in Ireland is lengthy and antiquated which is a shame, these dogs can be the f*****g scourge of an area.

actually it is remarkably easy. Look at EPA and environmental health at your council ... I have successfully dealt with it ..

Graces7 · 10-08-2018 08:10AM

Malayalam wrote: »

Of course they deserve better, the poor things. But I prioritise my privacy, invisibility and peace, and I am not interested in going to war with people. Have seen too much of that with others to know it is just a recipe for bad vibes non-stop. Not my desired life choice.

Your choice and not one I would make. And it is not going to war. Might be a little uncomfortable initially but so what?

It is the dog who is suffering. That is what matters.

Last place I rented catttle by me were being half starved and the attitide you expressed was all I heard here.

Then I had a deputation from concerned people re the cattle. Called the dept of ag and there was very swift action taken as the abuse was appalling.

There are official bodies to deal with this; and you can report anonymously?

as for peace?

freshpopcorn · 10-08-2018 08:16AM

Graces7 wrote: »

There are official bodies to deal with this; and you can report anonymously?

as for peace?

In my experience their no such thing of reporting something anonymously.

Regarding reporting the dog to the ICPCA/etc once they have water/bit of food. Some kind of shelter. They don't really do much.

Discodog · 10-08-2018 08:17AM

It's a very Irish problem because so many dogs are just left outside. I lived in the UK for many years & you don't hear dogs barking because they are in the house. Owners have an amazing ability to be deaf to their own dogs.

Discodog · 10-08-2018 08:20AM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

In my experience their no such thing of reporting something anonymously.

Regarding reporting the dog to the ICPCA/etc once they have water/bit of food. Some kind of shelter. They don't really do much.

The law has changed & owners have to provide for their dogs, including interaction. The problem is that the Guards aren't interested in enforcing animal law & leave it to the ISPCA & local SPCAs who have no legal authority.

lucast2007us · 10-08-2018 08:21AM

Deleted User wrote:

I wouldn't say this neighbour deserves a fine but people with dogs who consistently bark should be given enormous fines. Like 100euro a night or something. If they don't want to pay, they can stay up with their dog and keep it quiet.

Or get a turtle

freshpopcorn · 10-08-2018 08:24AM

Discodog wrote: »

The law has changed & owners have to provide for their dogs, including interaction. The problem is that the Guards aren't interested in enforcing animal law & leave it to the ISPCA & local SPCAs who have no legal authority.

A lot of it hard to prove though.
I know lots of people who bring their dogs on walks/etc but at night time he/she is left out with some kind of box because he is seen as the Guard dog.

forward8 · 10-08-2018 08:28AM

Graces7 wrote: »

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actually it is remarkably easy. Look at EPA and environmental health at your council ... I have successfully dealt with it ..

That's odd. I visited the guards, the dog warden and the council and all 3 pointed out my only option for dealing with a barking dog was district court. I even recall a part of the council website which explicitly stated they do not deal with barking dogs?

I do believe you can get someone from the council (perhaps who you are talking about?) to measure the noise level from the dog but that's to strengthen your court case with proof etc.

The reason I think the system sucks is because you have to inform the neighbor about their own barking dog, in my case the scumbags living beside me became fairly hostile. then requiring to tell them I intend on taking them to court in writing only exacerbates the situation.

While I know guards don't have the resources, I actually like the American system for dealing with these complaints, having a police officer knocking at their door allows you to maintain at least some anonymity and might be enough of a kick in the arse or wake up call for them to cop on.

Relikk · 10-08-2018 08:30AM

Dog owners' lack of consideration for their neighbours these days is really disturbing. There's two dogs in our estate that just bark at the sight of a mote of dust and no matter how many times you ask the owners to take their dogs in at night because they're disturbing peace and sleep, the dog will be out again the next night doing the same thing. Even during the day you can hear at least four different dogs around the area that have been left outside all day while the owner goes to work, and they constantly bark all day. It's irritating.

There really needs to be stricter laws regarding owners and their noisy dogs that disturb the peace.

cocker5 · 10-08-2018 08:34AM

Dogs bark for numerous reasons.. its their only form of communictaion

HOWEVER insistent barking is usually due to strange noises, cats, rats, birds, shadows... the way to STOP this is just have your dog sleeping indoors... simple.

its unfair on the dog (they are obliviously upset) and equally unfair on anyone who is subjected to the noise. I have a dog myself and adore dogs... he sleeps in my kitchen, is only outside in the garden when he needs to go to the toilet otherwise hes indoors (or out with me for walks) - there is never a peep out of him.

its not the difficult except most dog owners couldn't care less.

Heavy fines every night your dog barks in a populated area?

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