Family of seven sleep in Garda station Mod note post one

AlekSmart · 09-08-2018 10:25PM

Any clarification of the location in Co Meath ?

Could it have been someplace like Ashbourne,Clonee or Dunshaughlin...?

The reporting of Co Meath appears designed to instill images akin to the more remote locations in Leitrim rather than just up the road from Finglas ?

Spanish Eyes · 09-08-2018 10:26PM

forgodssake wrote: »

This!!! She wanted a few likes and a bit of attention on Facebook .She thinks she is being clever and will get the sympathy vote from the council and get what she demands . It will probably work too given the media attention it has received .

The media are more daft than she is..... according to me

Just daft reporting. Or maybe they have been told to do this to get at the Government or something in order to increase the TV license fee or something.

Honestly. I feel very sorry for anyone who cannot see the manipulation here. But I am probably alone in not being totally PC or something.

Sleeper12 · 09-08-2018 10:26PM

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

Iâ€™m not buying your last statement.

Wheeliebin30 you've no idea how happy you just made me feel. I've been very uncomfortable arguing on this side of the fence all day. I've seen your name pop up and I'm praying that you don't say something that I agree with. We have a perfect relationship where we disagree on homelessness. The status quo still exists.

Tipperary animal lover · 09-08-2018 10:28PM

http://www.echo.ie/tallaght/article/no-solution-in-sight-with-ongoing-homeless-crisis
She was on the echo a few years back looking for a house with six kids then.

end of the road · 09-08-2018 10:30PM

One eyed Jack wrote: »

Sure it is, and y’know I get that. What I don’t get is the moral high horsery. Sure we all had tough upbringings and we all went through shìt and so what... that gives us the right to dump on someone else because they have an even shìttier life than us? I dunno, I’m just not seeing what anyone actually achieves with that craic tbh.

it makes them feel superior. dispite all the leaps forward, that old attitude of being judgemental and looking down upon others and thinking one is better then someone else is still very much alive in ireland.

Omackeral wrote: »

Absolute bollox EOTR. 6 kids is a lot more than 1 and you know it. Unplanned pregnancies happen. That's fine. Half a dozen don't. It's a lifestyle choice and I'm paying for it.

not at all, it's reality. the children can't be put back inside her, they are here and existing. so telling her she shouldn't have had children is a pointless exercise and someone typing it could have typed something else that would have a point to it.

deco nate wrote: »

Eotr, you said they will never own anything!

Have a look at her page, she owns some nice crystal vases, don't think she robbed them this time. Also looked like a fairly nice car they go out in for spins/days out

most people have a car. how likely is this woman and her partner ever to own a house? they will always be at some bit of a disadvantage by relying on the council to house them, or renting privately.

MFPM wrote: »

What a charmer you are, are you suggesting that those not productive taxpayers should be evicted to make room for your chosen people?

yes . and she's not the first either on here or elsewhere to suggest this. of course, screw the people all ready living in the areas they want to become dumping grounds for the "wrong stock"

jaykay74 wrote: »

Those kids should be in foster care to give them some chance.

i don't see why given realistically they aren't in any danger? not liking their parents wouldn't constitute reasonable or good grounds for them to be removed into foster care, and what places exist are for serious cases where removal would be required.

Spanish Eyes · 09-08-2018 10:30PM

AlekSmart wrote: »

Any clarification of the location in Co Meath ?

Could it have been someplace like Ashbourne,Clonee or Dunshaughlin...?

The reporting of Co Meath appears designed to instill images akin to the more remote locations in Leitrim rather than just up the road from Finglas ?

Not near the relatives in some other enclave I suspect.

I will say it again, if you don't work you are not entitled to a premium property in Dublin. End of story.

Why would you be so entitled, and have others pay for you who may have to commute further than Meath anyway?

Calhoun · 09-08-2018 10:30PM

evolving_doors wrote: »

Why is it worth noting?

It's not really its just BS she is using to try and justify getting a 4 bed house in the location she desires.

Everyone else that is forced to move away from where they grew up because of property prices just uses a car.

glenfieldman · 09-08-2018 10:31PM

Typical Journal has closed comments after allowing 125
They obliviously realize it’s a crock of sh!t too

forgodssake · 09-08-2018 10:31PM

Spanish Eyes wrote:

Honestly. I feel very sorry for anyone who cannot see the manipulation here. But I am probably alone in not being totally PC or something.

It's soul destroying . It really is . I'm working long hours to keep my head above water and I've a small mortgage ,I didn't buy above my means , so I could keep myself and my family in our home . To see this person today has boiled my blood . She doesn't give a sh*t about her kids and I don't care if people don't like what I'm saying . It's the truth .If I have a week where I'm low on funds do you think for one second I'd go out drinking or go on a sun bed . She is brazen .

redshoes15 · 09-08-2018 10:32PM

Grab All Association wrote: »

Have you tried the council for a mortgage? Might be worth looking into.

Looking in to it, might be a couple of obstacles for the o/h but hopefully something good will come of it. Appreciate the heads up

jaykay74 · 09-08-2018 10:35PM

end of the road wrote: »

i don't see why given realistically they aren't in any danger? not liking their parents wouldn't constitute reasonable or good grounds for them to be removed into foster care, and what places exist are for serious cases where removal would be required.

not liking their parents, what ?

Spanish Eyes · 09-08-2018 10:37PM

forgodssake wrote: »

It's soul destroying . It really is . I'm working long hours to keep my head above water and I've a small mortgage ,I didn't buy above my means , so I could keep myself and my family in our home . To see this person today has boiled my blood . She doesn't give a sh*t about her kids and I don't care if people don't like what I'm saying . It's the truth .If I have a week where I'm low on funds do you think for one second I'd go out drinking or go on a sun bed . She is brazen .

I hear you. And I am totally with you and others in your circumstances. You do not get a voice in the media though. Time to talk to your TD and get a group behind you to balance things out a bit I think.

Keep going though. Far more dignity in supporting yourself. And I admire you and everyone else who does this, but no publicity for you and your peers EVER in the media.

Time to fight back maybe?

Edgware · 09-08-2018 10:37PM

If South Dublin Council give in to this stunt there will be a queue a mile long outside Tallaght Garda station.
Fair is fair the ordinary decent people on the housing list mustn't be pushed back by this type of behaviour

09-08-2018 10:40PM

end of the road wrote: »

not at all, it's reality. the children can't be put back inside her, they are here and existing. so telling her she shouldn't have had children is a pointless exercise and someone typing it could have typed something else that would have a point to it.

You said ''when they have one child it's too late by then to tell them otherwise.'' It's not. Going on to have 5 more after that at the cost of everyone else is avoidable. Your point was sh*te. Accept it. Move on.

forgodssake · 09-08-2018 10:40PM

Spanish Eyes wrote:

Time to fight back maybe?

Definitely . I'm totally for each to their own but this crap gets on my nerves . It's a choice not an entitlement .

Turnipman · 09-08-2018 10:42PM

evolving_doors wrote: »

Why is it worth noting?

Because dead parents aren't much use when it comes to baby sitting or having a quiet word in their daughter's ear when she needs a bit of parenting.

boombang · 09-08-2018 10:43PM

I find it really relieving to read the responses on threads like this. There's so much handwringing BS in the media all the time and I'm happy that so many people can see through it immediately. That goodness that common sense still prevails.

Edgware · 09-08-2018 10:45PM

boombang wrote: »

I find it really relieving to read the responses on threads like this. There's so much handwringing BS in the media all the time and I'm happy that so many people can see through it immediately. That goodness that common sense still prevails.

We haven't Mary McAleeses response yet

Wheeliebin30 · 09-08-2018 10:46PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Wheeliebin30 you've no idea how happy you just made me feel. I've been very uncomfortable arguing on this side of the fence all day. I've seen your name pop up and I'm praying that you don't say something that I agree with. We have a perfect relationship where we disagree on homelessness. The status quo still exists.

No status quo, no hidden agenda etc.

Just people deliberately going homoeless to jump
the q and lazy spongers who suddenly realise life isn’t a doss and now see the teachers in school were right when they said listen and do well.

Not my problem, I have enough to worry about.

Sleeper12 · 09-08-2018 10:47PM

deco nate wrote:

Sleeper, stop feeding it

Ah its gloating rather than feeding it. My integrity has been called into question today, my words twisted & being called out as a liar. All run of the mill for after hours except homelessness is something very close to the my heart. Being totally honest some comments hurt me today. I started the thread because I feel so strongly about homelessness and how idiots like this "mother" can damage the homeless message. Not everyone on the housing list is shallow, lying & cheating like this woman. People blindly defending her hurts the homeless cause. I will always campaign for homeless people but you have to read between the lines. Not everyone is honest & not everyone deserves to be defended.

I'll say it one last time today, very few homeless people will have their children photoed or camp outside dcc in a tent. Most homeless people don't want publicity. Many are ashamed of a situation not of their making. Usually the one's making waves like this "mother" are scamming and not genuine. This comes out after days or weeks & then the flat earthers claiming there's no homeless people use the likes of this "mother" to bash us on the head. There is only a few liars & cheaters like this "mother" but they get wheeled out every time to try prove all homeless are fakes

Rant over. Point taken. No more feeding

SEPT 23 1989 · 09-08-2018 10:48PM

end of the road wrote: »

it makes them feel superior. dispite all the leaps forward, that old attitude of being judgemental and looking down upon others and thinking one is better then someone else is still very much alive in ireland.

not at all, it's reality. the children can't be put back inside her, they are here and existing. so telling her she shouldn't have had children is a pointless exercise and someone typing it could have typed something else that would have a point to it.

most people have a car. how likely is this woman and her partner ever to own a house? they will always be at some bit of a disadvantage by relying on the council to house them, or renting privately.

yes . and she's not the first either on here or elsewhere to suggest this. of course, screw the people all ready living in the areas they want to become dumping grounds for the "wrong stock"

i don't see why given realistically they aren't in any danger? not liking their parents wouldn't constitute reasonable or good grounds for them to be removed into foster care, and what places exist are for serious cases where removal would be required.

We are a decent people and when we see genuine hardship we help others and always have

This fcuking nonsense we were presented with today pushed by certain quarters tries to make a mockery of our good nature

I know you mean well but dont try and defend it

Wheeliebin30 · 09-08-2018 10:49PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Ah its gloating rather than feeding it. My integrity has been called into question today, my words twisted & being called out as a liar. All run of the mill for after hours except homelessness is something very close to the my heart. Being totally honest some comments hurt me today. I started the thread because I feel so strongly about homelessness and how idiots like this "mother" can damage the homeless message. Not everyone on the housing list is shallow, lying & cheating like this woman. People blindly defending her hurts the homeless cause. I will always campaign for homeless people but you have to read between the lines. Not everyone is honest & not everyone deserves to be defended.

I'll say it one last time today, very few homeless people will have their children photoed or camp outside dcc in a tent. Most homeless people don't want publicity. Many are ashamed of a situation not of their making. Usually the one's making waves like this "mother" are scamming and not genuine. This comes out after days or weeks & then the flat earthers claiming there's no homeless people use the likes of this "mother" to bash us on the head. There is only a few liars & cheaters like this "mother" but they get wheeled out every time to try prove all homeless are fakes

Rant over. Point taken. No more feeding

Have you any evidence it’s only a few like this mother?

Last time I heard from peter mcverry only 1 in 5 homeless are working.

Spanish Eyes · 09-08-2018 10:50PM

forgodssake wrote: »

Definitely . I'm totally for each to their own but this crap gets on my nerves . It's a choice not an entitlement .

Wish you well. Time has come for people who work and contribute, and take what they can afford to challenge the Government about their situations too.

I don't know how the homeless issue became focused on those who never contributed and deem themselves entitled came from. Probably from the taxpayer funded Homeless Charities I reckon.

Well they have to have a raison d'etre for their existence don't they? They are not in any way "charities", they may have charitable status, but they are funded by the taxpayer.

I would call the situation "shelterless" not "homeless". If you cannot afford to pay for your own home you accept shelter, and that is provided no problem.

Issue is, some want their shelter on THEIR terms. Sorry now.

fritzelly · 09-08-2018 10:50PM

Time for political parties and councils to grow a spine

Galls me to see crap pulled by people like this who contribute nothing to society and just drain it dry for every cent they can (not even counting the costs of all the other crap that was pulled)

No reason in the world for any government to pay people to have children - two and that's it - the country is not run by the church anymore. Any more you pay for them, continue to have kids then forced sterilization.
People work full time jobs and daren't even have more than two kids because they know they can't afford to but hey you're onto a winner if you're on the social, pop em out every year or two
Far too long this country has been a soft touch. Take all that money saved and spend it on the health system for the like of people fighting to get medication to save their lives because of illnesses that were not their fault and so many other areas.

For Forks Sake · 09-08-2018 10:51PM

I am sick to the back teeth of seeing and hearing Provisional Harry Potter (Eoin O'Broin of SF) pontificating.

I will offer a shiny new donkey to the journo who asks him about Northern Ireland having 18.5k homeless people off a population of 1.8m and not a peep out of SF about it. RoI rate (still too high) for comparison is 9.8k off a population of 4.8m

deco nate · 09-08-2018 10:52PM

end of the road wrote: »

it makes them feel superior. dispite all the leaps forward, that old attitude of being judgemental and looking down upon others and thinking one is better then someone else is still very much alive in ireland.

not at all, it's reality. the children can't be put back inside her, they are here and existing. so telling her she shouldn't have had children is a pointless exercise and someone typing it could have typed something else that would have a point to it.

most people have a car. how likely is this woman and her partner ever to own a house? they will always be at some bit of a disadvantage by relying on the council to house them, or renting privately.

yes . and she's not the first either on here or elsewhere to suggest this. of course, screw the people all ready living in the areas they want to become dumping grounds for the "wrong stock"

i don't see why given realistically they aren't in any danger? not liking their parents wouldn't constitute reasonable or good grounds for them to be removed into foster care, and what places exist are for serious cases where removal would be required.

EOTR, I'm angry and sad that you still stand up for someone that is clearly milking the system. Don't tell me that she is justified in her antics today. Someone that has a kid at 17 maybe a mistake, but 7 is clear to me that they want it all. Without paying into the pot.

I'm actually disgusted at your defence of this person. Promoting someone that does not add to the public coffers.
But all they do is take, I find it baffling that anyone can defend this.

I said before have a look at her fb, if you have not. And still posted this ****e. Well, I'm so lost for words,im not really. but I would get banned for what I want to say in full about her. Her past and all on here defending her, over hard working people and her (and her defenders) of entitlement of hard working people. I'm seething tbh.

Sleeper12 · 09-08-2018 10:54PM

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

No status quo, no hidden agenda etc.

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

Just people deliberately going homoeless to jump the q and lazy spongers who suddenly realise life isnâ€™t a doss and now see the teachers in school were right when they said listen and do well.

Ah feck ya. I'm just about to go to bed and you post something I have to agree with.

There are still plenty of genuine homeless though. Unfortunately it's idiots like this scammed that takes up so much of everyone's time and energy.

I'm delighted she has been outed for what she is. I didn't think the truth would be out so quickly though. Roughly 7 hours after the thread started

Sardonicat · 09-08-2018 10:56PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Captain Obvious wrote: »

I'm struggling with the maths of it. Child benefit for six kids is 840 a month. Lone parents is up to 200 plus 30 per child per week. Minimum she's getting from that is 1100 a month. job seekers probably another 800 per month. That's excluding all the extra benefits she'd be getting from social. How can you need help setting up a home when you are getting about 3000 a month from social?

Again, another question people are afraid to ask.

Not defending this publicity stunt at all but:
You can not claim job seekers and lone parents . Tis one or the other. Plus lone parents only til the child reaches 7. So definitely not €3000 pm.

Wheeliebin30 · 09-08-2018 10:56PM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

Ah feck ya. I'm just about to go to bed and you post something I have to agree with.

There are still plenty of genuine homeless though. Unfortunately it's idiots like this scammed that takes up so much of everyone's time and energy.

I'm delighted she has been outed for what she is. I didn't think the truth would be out so quickly though. Roughly 7 hours after the thread started

It’s not been outed though.

Only here it has, people still want Leo’s blood.

dhaughton99 · 09-08-2018 10:58PM

For Forks Sake wrote: »

I am sick to the back teeth of seeing and hearing Provisional Harry Potter (Eoin O'Broin of SF) pontificating.

I will offer a shiny new donkey to the journo who asks him about Northern Ireland having 18.5k homeless people off a population of 1.8m and not a peep out of SF about it. RoI rate (still too high) for comparison is 9.8k off a population of 4.8m

Planning permission for 40 houses was put up for a field beside our estate 2 weeks ago. He was around the next day to our houses looking to survey for ‘their’ submission to the council. The bloody neck of them.

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