Airbnb is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Hitman3000 · 09-08-2018 12:22PM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote:

We've a number in our development and as a director I'm aware of only one complaint relating to wear and tear. Noise etc. they're no worse, probably better than long term tenants.

That's great, not everyone is as lucky. A friend lives in a private estate where the house he shares a party wall with has being party central several times in the last few months.

Hitman3000 · 09-08-2018 12:24PM

mariaalice wrote:

What are the other 2% doing

Reading the instruction books.

Pkiernan · 09-08-2018 12:27PM

My last tenant has just abandoned my apartment owing 2 months rent. Kitchen is ruined and furniture has been left behind. No forwarding address.
And that makes me one of the lucky landlords.

I'm gonna spend 8 to 10 grand fixing it up. Then it's straight to Air BnB.

Samuel T. Cogley · 09-08-2018 12:27PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

That's great, not everyone is as lucky. A friend lives in a private estate where the house he shares a party wall with has being party central several times in the last few months.

But that's down to the OMC. It can just as easily happen with long term tenants, especially students.

Samuel T. Cogley · 09-08-2018 12:28PM

Pkiernan wrote: »

My last tenant has just abandoned my apartment owing 2 months rent. Kitchen is ruined and furniture has been left behind. No forwarding address.
And that makes me one of the lucky landlords.

I'm gonna spend 8 to 10 grand fixing it up. Then it's straight to Air BnB.

4K for a new kitchen
4K for the camera set up? :pac:

Will I Am Not · 09-08-2018 12:30PM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

4K for a new kitchen
4K for the camera set up? :pac:

1080p is fine. They mostly view on laptops.

09-08-2018 12:31PM

One of my sisters did it for a short while, the reviews mean it has to keep to very high standards so it's going to cost to have it cleaned each turnover which costs money. The owner does have to pay tax and you need to devote time to the online bit. It's not as simple as long-term renting.

Samuel T. Cogley · 09-08-2018 12:37PM

mariaalice wrote: »

One of my sisters did it for a short while, the reviews mean it has to keep to very high standards so it's going to cost to have it cleaned each turnover which costs money. The owner does have to pay tax and you need to devote time to the online bit. It's not as simple as long-term renting.

You can pass most of the work over to an agency who don't charge that much more than a normal letting agent. Then you can use an accountant to do the tax side - all these fess being tax deductable. That said a long term rental you can do everything yourself (letting, tax etc.).

dav3 · 09-08-2018 01:00PM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Partly as in a tiny part. There's about 300 units in Dublin, converting them back to full time rentals would be a drop in the ocean and mean less tourism money being spent in Dublin.

Seems a rather low estimate.

https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/property-mortgages/rental-home-numbers-slide-as-airbnb-hits-dublin-market-36911455.html

Yesterday, there were 1,258 long-term rental properties available in Dublin on Daft.ie, it said. By contrast, the stock of full homes to let on Airbnb from professional listers according to website Inside Airbnb, which analyses publicly available information about a city's Airbnb's listings, stood at 1,419.

This means 53pc of the city's rental stock is effectively being targeted at short-term visitors rather than helping to resolve the capital's housing crisis.

Muahahaha · 09-08-2018 01:27PM

Airbnb is fine but it has come to the point where it needs to be regulated in Dublin where the homeless sleep in hotels and tourists sleep in homes. But I wouldnt hold my breath on it happening anytime soon because jobs, jobs, jobs.

bigpink · 09-08-2018 01:31PM

It’s a rip off any time I looked to use it

bigpink · 09-08-2018 01:39PM

Pkiernan wrote: »

My last tenant has just abandoned my apartment owing 2 months rent. Kitchen is ruined and furniture has been left behind. No forwarding address.
And that makes me one of the lucky landlords.

I'm gonna spend 8 to 10 grand fixing it up. Then it's straight to Air BnB.

Did they pay deposit?Have good references?

andekwarhola · 09-08-2018 02:28PM

It has its uses but generally its such a modern silicon valley confection.

Something that purports to sock it to large business and 'empower' people as regards on one side, micro business and the other, a convenient loosely regulated service but in the long run just has a completely deleterious effect on the population as a whole whether or not that is long term renters or residents that own a property in a complex with a heavy Airbnb presence.

I can see major crackdowns continuing on it in urban areas.

I know a friend that does it, as in they have a room in their house and put it on Airbnb. Maybe I'm just too long in the tooth but the money after tax doesn't seem worth having to share your house with random strangers and chat with endless cheapskate backpackers over your breakfast.

Each to their own, I guess.

inforfun · 09-08-2018 02:41PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

If you live beside one you might have a different opinion.

Or if you "own" one:

https://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7481637/ce7b5f40/je_huis_uitlenen_aan_airbnb.html

(never mind what she said, just enjoy the pictures)

Samuel T. Cogley · 09-08-2018 06:34PM

inforfun wrote: »

Or if you "own" one:

https://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/7481637/ce7b5f40/je_huis_uitlenen_aan_airbnb.html

(never mind what she said, just enjoy the pictures)

Bit of a mess and a broken mirror. Much better than what long term tenants do to a place if they're so inclined.

Pkiernan · 09-08-2018 07:07PM

bigpink wrote: »

Did they pay deposit?Have good references?

Victim blaming from the far left again?

My point is that Air BnB actively financially protects both owner and guest.

Outlaw Pete · 09-08-2018 07:13PM

TomSweeney wrote: »

Air BNB is cancer, I would never support the c*nts.
I have seen Barcelona being RUINED over this f*cking cancer.
Enjoy your holiday in Barcelona while families have to move out to f*cking Sabadell ... hope you get pickpocketed ta f*ck!

Thought I was reading recently that Spain had banned it. Maybe it was just Majorca or somewhere, Balearic Islands perhaps.

Guy:Incognito · 09-08-2018 07:33PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

But why is the landlord who does this defined as greedy ?

If I own a property and find that I can make a better income (to cover the repayments) from it, with less hassle using AirBnB than letting it out the traditional way then why shouldn't they do it.

It's a bit like saying why should a person that already has a job take on a second job for extra income to pay the mortgage and not leave it to an unemoyed person to have the second job.

You and I have no idea of the finincial situation of people who rent out using AirBnB.

They should 100% do what they feel is best for them (the landlord) . But they should be subject to the same rules, regulations and tax as hotel or guesthouse.

Guy:Incognito · 09-08-2018 07:35PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Uber = Competition for taxi drivers.

And we can't be having that now, can we?

If someone set up a business the same as yours or your employers and undercut the **** out of you because they didn't have the same overheads and didn't bother with the same insurances etc, would that be OK with you?

Competition is fine, but it has to be a level playing field.

Samuel T. Cogley · 09-08-2018 07:35PM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

They should 100% do what they feel is best for them (the landlord) . But they should be subject to the same rules, regulations and tax as hotel or guesthouse.

Oh yes please! I'd love the reduced tax.

Abel Ruiz · 09-08-2018 07:37PM

There are some scams using airbnb to get their money.

It was tried on me. Rental on daft, and they wanted me to rent out the apt from airbnb because they were out of ireland.
Very strange. Glad I didnt fall for it.

Noveight · 09-08-2018 07:51PM

Myself and the missus are heading away for a few nights in October, hoping to use Air BnB. Nothing booked yet but there seems to be a decent saving on hotel rooms.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 09-08-2018 07:53PM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Oh yes please! I'd love the reduced tax.

You’re confusing corporate with personal tax.

inforfun · 10-08-2018 08:17AM

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Bit of a mess and a broken mirror. Much better than what long term tenants do to a place if they're so inclined.

Sure. Have this 4x a year and see how funny it is. Place is in Amsterdam so with all the dopeheads coming over for a weekend all year long, chances are this will happen 4x a year.

Reading you general opinion on people renting i know you probably think of me, who is renting here since i came to Ireland, worse than Bin Laden but i havent broken a plate that wasnt mine in all those years.

I am quite happy with my current landlord who has things fixed in reasonable time if something like a washing machine breaks down.
I also had the pleasure of renting from some **** who thought it was acceptable not to fix the heater for a month in january\february.
Guess who i ****ed over at the revenue office when i had the chance.

Edgware · 10-08-2018 09:15AM

Pkiernan wrote: »

My last tenant has just abandoned my apartment owing 2 months rent. Kitchen is ruined and furniture has been left behind. No forwarding address.
And that makes me one of the lucky landlords.

I'm gonna spend 8 to 10 grand fixing it up. Then it's straight to Air BnB.

You didnt do a great job getting those tenants.

Fighting Tao · 10-08-2018 09:18AM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

If you live beside one you might have a different opinion.

I lived beside 3. One above, one below and one beside. It was much better than having full time tenants in the apartments. Much quieter, less frequent parties and no one around during the day. Most people using Airbnb just want to see a city and sleep.

draiochtanois · 10-08-2018 09:21AM

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pickarooney · 10-08-2018 09:35AM

Trying to book something in Galway for September. Prices are scandalous. Crappy single rooms for 60 euros a night. I've rented two-storey townhouses with big gardens for less than that in France.

joeysoap · 10-08-2018 09:56AM

pickarooney wrote: »

Trying to book something in Galway for September. Prices are scandalous. Crappy single rooms for 60 euros a night. I've rented two-storey townhouses with big gardens for less than that in France.

I was in Salzburg last year. Airbnb were more expensive than decent 3* hotels. I found a nice hotel near a pedestrianised street for the same price as the cheapest Airbn. Checking out Lake Garda now and Airbnb looks far better value (reasonable)

KilOit · 10-08-2018 11:15AM

Used it twice in ireland, it was ok, very expensive to use here. I've used it for many years outside Ireland and you get way more bang for your buck.

Airbnb is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

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