Should we protest against the pope's visit?

ohnonotgmail · 08-08-2018 03:08PM

seamus wrote: »

:D

The poor guy. All he gets is a palace to live in, assistants to attend to his every need, food, clothing, heat, light, telecommunications, domestic and international travel, five-star, celebrity treatment, diplomatic immunity and absolute dictatorial power over a small country until the day he dies.

And he doesn't see a bean in payment for it.

dont forget the silk slippers. Does the new guy still go for the silk slippers? I know the last guy was very fond of this very expensive silk slippers. Vow of poverty my arse.

seamus · 08-08-2018 03:09PM

But hey, he got rid of the golden throne and replaced it with a regular throne. That shows he's serious about this poverty thing.

ohnonotgmail · 08-08-2018 03:12PM

seamus wrote: »

But hey, he got rid of the golden throne and replaced it with a regular throne. That shows he's serious about this poverty thing.

a regular throne for a regular guy.

Sofiztikated · 08-08-2018 03:21PM

seamus wrote: »

But hey, he got rid of the golden throne and replaced it with a regular throne. That shows he's serious about this poverty thing.

Just so everyone is clear, got rid means "put into storage, and waiting for the time to bring it back out" not "Stuck it on donedeal, and gave the money to charity."

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-08-2018 03:45PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

dont forget the silk slippers. Does the new guy still go for the silk slippers? I know the last guy was very fond of this very expensive silk slippers. Vow of poverty my arse.

The previous chap, Ben did wear red leather slippers/loafers, from his personal cobbler, made in a similar style to Prada's luxury collection.

One of Ben's nicknames was 'the Prada Pope' due to the accessories.
'The devil wears Prada' apparently, some would say.

Previous to this JP2 used to wear a Rolex (DateJust) likely worth enough $6,000, to feed an entire small African village for a year.

Think Francis has wisely turned down most luxury accessories, opting for simpler black leather shoes. He also prefers a simple Casio or Swatch watches. After all a watches primary purpose if simply to tell the time.

An_Toirpin · 08-08-2018 05:51PM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

dont forget the silk slippers. Does the new guy still go for the silk slippers? I know the last guy was very fond of this very expensive silk slippers. Vow of poverty my arse.

Benedict didnt take a vow of poverty. Why should he be obligated too? If you think Benedict was motivated by money to join the clergy you simply dont know the man.

An_Toirpin · 08-08-2018 05:55PM

seamus wrote: »

But hey, he got rid of the golden throne and replaced it with a regular throne. That shows he's serious about this poverty thing.

And what do you propose? What is your suggestion? You do realise the Vatican is bound by law with Italy not to sell off the Vatican. Furthermore there wouldnt be any buyers.

Hitman3000 · 08-08-2018 05:56PM

An_Toirpin wrote:

Benedict didnt take a vow of poverty. Why should he be obligated too? If you think Benedict was motivated by money to join the clergy you simply dont know the man.

Thought these lads claimed to follow Christ, according to the big book of fairy tales he wasn't into the trappings of wealth and possessions. The church see.s to be built on wealth quite a lot of it ill gotten.

An_Toirpin · 08-08-2018 05:59PM

Omar Orange Ignoramus wrote: »

Previous to this JP2 used to wear a Rolex (DateJust) likely worth enough $6,000, to feed an entire small African village for a year.

African villages don't need our food. They are more than capable of producing their own, as many of the worlds fastest growing economies are African.

Hitman3000 · 08-08-2018 06:01PM

An_Toirpin wrote:

African villages don't need our food. They are more than capable of producing their own, as many of the worlds fastest growing economies are African.

The people of Darfur may disagree with you.

WinnyThePoo · 08-08-2018 06:04PM

A six grand Rolex! Jesus would be turning in his grave!

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-08-2018 06:12PM

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

A six grand Rolex! Jesus would be turning in his grave!

Rolex about it, sure it was the 80's

Everyone had a two-tone, yellow-gold, Rolex Datejust on a 36mm Jubilee Bracelet, according to rolexmagazine, sure the Dalai Lama sported one also. Mother Theresa didn't feel the need however.

If When I win the Euro millions will still be wearing my trusty Casio, and dedicate the 130m or so towards good causes, in spite of the temptation to accept the seven deadly sins including pride, greed and promotion of the ego. I.e. Lust, Gluttony, Greed, Sloth, Wrath, Envy, Pride.

An_Toirpin · 08-08-2018 06:15PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

The people of Darfur may disagree with you.

They need investment, trade ideally free trade not food hand outs. Food shotages still occur but only seasonal every few years. It is shocking how many people seem to unware Africa has changed since 1985.

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-08-2018 06:19PM

An_Toirpin wrote: »

They need investment, trade ideally free trade not food hand outs. Food shotages still occur but only seasonal every few years. It is shocking how many people seem to unware Africa has changed since 1985.

Would a $6,000 Rolex trade-in worth of investment be of any use then, no?

WinnyThePoo · 08-08-2018 06:22PM

Let them starve for God. Its what mother Theresa would have wanted.

Hitman3000 · 08-08-2018 06:24PM

An_Toirpin wrote:

They need investment, trade ideally free trade not food hand outs. Food shotages still occur but only seasonal every few years. It is shocking how many people seem to unware Africa has changed since 1985.

In the immediate term they need food and since they are destitute they need free food.

An_Toirpin · 08-08-2018 06:25PM

Omar Orange Ignoramus wrote: »

Would a $6,000 Rolex trade-in worth of investment be of any use then, no?

If someone doesnt do ever possible thing at every time for a cause then clearly they are insincere hypocrities. How do you even believe that?

An_Toirpin · 08-08-2018 06:29PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

In the immediate term they need food and since they are destitute they need free food.

As someone who has worked in the huamnitarian sector in Africa, food isnt sent to Africa. It just isnt. It is a myth that people are starving for want of food. Disease and malnutrition is the problem.

Hitman3000 · 08-08-2018 06:32PM

An_Toirpin wrote:

As someone who has worked in the huamnitarian sector in Africa, food isnt sent to Africa. It just isnt. It is a myth that people are starving for want of food. Disease and malnutrition is the problem.

You do know malnutrition is defined as not having enough to eat? Btw it's humanitarian.

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-08-2018 06:35PM

An_Toirpin wrote: »

If someone doesnt do ever possible thing at every time for a cause then clearly they are insincere hypocrities. How do you even believe that?

By someone you mean the leader of eternal salvation on Earth, well yes 99% of the time?

To be fair to Francis, unlike other previous leaders he chooses a functional cheap Casio watch, like myself.

Addressing the UN in 2014 he also called for state-led global initiative to close the widening gap between rich and poor through redistribution.

e.g. PJP2 could have distributed 1 single $6,000 watch, into 4,000 watches and distributed to those in need who currently rely on the position of the sun to tend their crops in Africa and send their children to school on time.

Sycamore Tree · 08-08-2018 06:40PM

An_Toirpin wrote: »

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Did this happen to every priest with an accusation against them? Or did the church just move priests on to a different parish so they could abuse again?

So if they didnt always do the right thing they clearly had no care what so ever to victims. What an absurd argument. Yes there was awful cover up but many did care about the welfare of victims.

The question is did Rome move paedophile priests to other parishes again and again knowing they would sexually abuse more and more children?

Giraffe Box · 08-08-2018 07:08PM

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

A six grand Rolex! Jesus would be turning in his grave!

And Emporio Armani finest underwear for men I believe.

ohnonotgmail · 08-08-2018 07:10PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

In the immediate term they need food and since they are destitute they need free food.

An_Toirpin wrote: »

As someone who has worked in the huamnitarian sector in Africa, food isnt sent to Africa. It just isnt. It is a myth that people are starving for want of food. Disease and malnutrition is the problem.

you have to be a parody account.

Seth Brundle · 08-08-2018 09:21PM

An_Toirpin wrote: »

Every priest with accusations who has been forced to have no contact with children is an examples of RCC caring for victums.

Forcing priests to have no contact with children is only a recent action made when people found out what the traditional culture within the RCC was when it came to managing paedophiles. The RCC did not volunteer to take this approach. They were forced to because they had been exposed.
And you seriously think that is a caring attitude towards victims?

Seth Brundle · 08-08-2018 09:22PM

An_Toirpin wrote: »

So if they didnt always do the right thing they clearly had no care what so ever to victims. What an absurd argument. Yes there was awful cover up but many did care about the welfare of victims.

Did they speak out?
Did they go to the gardai?
Did they approach the media about the abuse?
Did they progress through the ranks of the RCC?
With regard to the last question, I'd love if you could remind us of an archbishop who went public about abuse within the RCC.

work · 08-08-2018 09:56PM

An_Toirpin wrote: »

True and this is why when abuse happens nowadays it is mostly in a family setting where there is no one to ask questions.

Wow your drivel never stops. It doesn't happen in the church because what idiot would trust a man that has chosen celibacy in a misogynistic self serving cult that views the human body and sex as something dirty (original sin). You are full of facts but very short on references.
Your strongly held belief that all the abusers are gone out of the church and that papal "administration" is not responsible is very wrong. I can only compare you to a holocaust denier.

work · 08-08-2018 10:00PM

An_Toirpin wrote: »

True and this is why when abuse happens nowadays it is mostly in a family setting where there is no one to ask questions.

An_Toirpin wrote: »

Every priest with accusations who has been forced to have no contact with children is an examples of RCC caring for victums.

If the RCC is only about money how is that priests get paid so little and why do so many like our Jesuit Pope take no salary with their vow of poverty. What a joke of an interpretation.

More drivel. The RCC is not only about money but it is all about money AND power. Priests get paid little as the money they feed goes to their cult the RCCmaking the monster more powerful and resourceful. The pope with no salary and vow of poverty really lives a poor life doesn't he in the little palaces of the Vatican surrounded by incalculable wealth he controls. He must feel so humble and hungry!!!!!

work · 08-08-2018 10:03PM

An_Toirpin wrote: »

If it is so easy why don't more do it.

Because it is a sham and a scam and a cult. People are not idiots. The only reason to join it is you were duped by your indoctrination or you are actually from a poor background and see it as better than your other options...Thus all the 2nd and 3rd world success of the church and previous success in Ireland. Makes you wonder what they are up to in these other countries....and all the other religious "charities"

work · 08-08-2018 10:06PM

seamus wrote: »

:D

The poor guy. All he gets is a palace to live in, assistants to attend to his every need, food, clothing, heat, light, telecommunications, domestic and international travel, five-star, celebrity treatment, diplomatic immunity and absolute dictatorial power over a small country until the day he dies.

And he doesn't see a bean in payment for it.

I wish I had your way with words very good. Poor popey

08-08-2018 10:07PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

Don't forget control.

And the aqueducts.

Should we protest against the pope's visit?

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