Roseanne fired but Sarah Jeong hired?

WinnyThePoo · 07-08-2018 05:55PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Irony Police, if anything. You see, normally I wouldn't do that but you tried to belittle another poster and insinuate that they're dumb when you yourself couldn't even spell a four letter word correctly in your attempt to put him down.

Me belittle?
When a poster such as proferre makes up nonsense and gets called out on it and continues with that nonsense after. Of course I can take the mick, or if you prefer because your so serious e-cock out of him.

Anyway continue your outrage.

07-08-2018 05:57PM

Brian? wrote: »

I completely agree. I’m happy to defend my position though. I just don’t like the insults, I feel they drag ever thread off course.

I’ve been called a hypocrite and a spoofer today, which is better than usual.

You do. I've gained a lot of respect for you today I must say. You actually take people on and challenge their views and defend your own. That's what it should be about.

07-08-2018 05:59PM

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

or if you prefer because your so serious e-cock out of him.

I honestly don't know what you're even trying to say here.

hatrickpatrick · 07-08-2018 06:00PM

Brian? wrote: »

You seem to be missing my point. I want a source where she talks directly or writes about race. Not an article that is simply someone’s opinion on her tweets.

If she’s a man hating, racist journalist it shouldn’t be too hard to find. All I can find are more articles about her tweets and her blog. Her blog is clean.

Why does it matter? If the NYT will criticise and fire others (for example Quinn Notron) for tweets - nothing else, just tweets - containing hate speech, then they should fire everyone for hate speech. And if mainstream commentators and activists will condemn some people for racist tweeting, they shouldn't be defending anyone for racist tweeting.

Any deviation from this constitutes a double standard, AKA hypocrisy. That's the issue here. The tweets themselves and even the medium for them are irrelevant, what matters is that Jeong is not being subjected to the same level of criticism as other racists, specifically because of who she was targeting with her racist remarks.

This is unacceptable no matter how you dress it up.

For what it's worth, I believe in free speech so I don't advocate for ever firing anyone for offensive speech, but I care more about equality, so if one side is subjected to treatment I ideologically oppose, I do advocate for the other side to receive the same treatment. Equality of humans is right at the top of the list of priorities, and so it should be.

WinnyThePoo · 07-08-2018 06:04PM

Omackeral wrote: »

I honestly don't know what you're even trying to say here.

It's simple, they are letters. When you put them together they make words. When you put words together they make sentences.

07-08-2018 06:08PM

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

It's simple, they are letters. When you put them together they make words. When you put words together they make sentences.

Yes, usually. This, however, is nowhere near a coherent sentence;

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

if you prefer because your so serious e-cock out of him.

If it is, it's in a dialect or creole I've yet to master. Anyway, I'm not getting dragged down to your dreadful posting style anymore.

WinnyThePoo · 07-08-2018 06:11PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Yes, usually. This, however, is nowhere near a coherent sentence;

If it is, it's in a dialect or creole I've yet to master. Anyway, I'm not getting dragged down to your dreadful posting style anymore.

Makes perfect sense. Bye.

Brian? · 07-08-2018 06:11PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Why does it matter? If the NYT will criticise and fire others (for example Quinn Notron) for tweets - nothing else, just tweets - containing hate speech, then they should fire everyone for hate speech. And if mainstream commentators and activists will condemn some people for racist tweeting, they shouldn't be defending anyone for racist tweeting.

I’ll be honest, I don’t know anything about Quinn Norton. So I’ll have to google that.

It matters to me. I said earlier, I think more than once, no one should be fired for their tweets. I essentially the tweets are only one data point on making that decision.

Any deviation from this constitutes a double standard, AKA hypocrisy. That's the issue here. The tweets themselves and even the medium for them are irrelevant, what matters is that Jeong is not being subjected to the same level of criticism as other racists, specifically because of who she was targeting with her racist remarks.

This is unacceptable no matter how you dress it up.

For what it's worth, I believe in free speech so I don't advocate for ever firing anyone for offensive speech, but I care more about equality, so if one side is subjected to treatment I ideologically oppose, I do advocate for the other side to receive the same treatment. Equality of humans is right at the top of the list of priorities, and so it should be.

Look, if the NYT has fired people in the past for racist tweets. Take that up with them, they shouldn’t have.

I’m merely presenting the argument that the tweets in this case aren’t necessarily racist as the author claims they are satire. I don’t see any proof they aren’t satire. I’m leaning toward believing her.

The more I read about her, the more I dislike the woman. It hasn’t change my opinion on the debate at hand.

07-08-2018 06:13PM

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Makes perfect sense. Bye.

It does, if you're brain damaged. Later baby x x x

professore · 07-08-2018 06:14PM

The SMOB.

Yer Da sells Avon · 07-08-2018 06:17PM

Omackeral wrote: »

You made a holy show of yourself yesterday and it seems you've f*ck all else to offer with the exception of little digs and remarks.

I don't care if you (or all of your fellow Serious Men) think I made a holy show of myself. Tbh, even if it was objectively true, it wouldn't matter. Sounds like it would be your worst nightmare though.

On the topic of 'little digs and remarks', I've been on the receiving end of quite a lot of those, but I'm satisfied that I've kept it fairly lighthearted and haven't responded in kind. Although I'll admit, I came close with the "G'way and get a hug off someone" remark, which was originally going to be a very different suggestion altogether.

Brian? · 07-08-2018 06:24PM

professore wrote: »

The SMOB.

Typical. Not a brown lad in sight.

WinnyThePoo · 07-08-2018 06:25PM

Omackeral wrote: »

It does, if you're brain damaged. Later baby x x x

Aaaaannnnndddd There it is.

07-08-2018 06:34PM

Can someone tell me what this means? Apparently it makes sense but I just can't make heads nor tails of it.

''If you prefer because your so serious e-cock out of him.''

Thanks in advance,
Omackeral
(Junior Secretary, Serious Men of Boards)

professore · 07-08-2018 06:36PM

Omackeral wrote: »

It does, if you're brain damaged. Later baby x x x

THE SMOB DOES NOT APPROVE OF YOUR TONE. OMAKERAL'S MEMBERSHIP IS HEREBY REVOKED FOR 30 MINUTES.

07-08-2018 06:37PM

professore wrote: »

THE SMOB DOES NOT APPROVE OF YOUR TONE. OMAKERAL'S MEMBERSHIP IS HEREBY REVOKED FOR 30 MINUTES.

Can I at least take my e-cock with me?

WinnyThePoo · 07-08-2018 06:37PM

Omackeral wrote: »

More juvenile crap from you. What is it with you lot and undies and e-cocks and the like?

This poster might be able to help you. He brought it up .

07-08-2018 06:38PM

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

This poster might be able to help you. He brought it up .

Hapax Legomenon brought it up actually but who gives a fcuk at this stage, I've been booted out of the SMOB :mad:

dark crystal · 07-08-2018 06:39PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Can I at least take my e-cock with me?

Sorry, I've been following these traded insults like I'd imagine it would be like watching a game of verbal ping pong between Trump and Kim Jung Un and it has kept me entertained no end.

This comment, though... water....everywhere.

Yer Da sells Avon · 07-08-2018 06:41PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Can I at least take my e-cock with me?

Only if you're finished playing helicopter with it.

professore · 07-08-2018 06:46PM

Omackeral wrote: »

Hapax Legomenon brought it up actually but who gives a fcuk at this stage, I've been booted out of the SMOB :mad:

You can come back in if you promise to help us troll and oppress Hapax and their ilk.

07-08-2018 06:58PM

professore wrote: »

You can come back in if you promise to help us troll and oppress Hapax and their ilk.

Only if it's done satirically.

DickSwiveller Returns · 07-08-2018 07:00PM

Good piece on the whole controversy

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/sarah-jeong-and-the-battle-of-the-twittermobs/21656#.W2neF9JKjcs

Ken. · 07-08-2018 07:09PM

Mod- Winny the poo and Omackeral do not post in this thread again. Reason- Derailing thread, trying to WUM each other.

Sal Butamol · 07-08-2018 08:52PM

RasTa wrote: »

Usual stuff. Shark hunt, Curse of lono, Fear and loathing Las Vegas, Hells Angels , Rum Diary, Great Shark hunt and my favoruite, Fear and Loathing on the campaign trail.

Read his letters collections. The Proud Highway and Fear and Loathing in America. Afterwards you'll understand why I made the post I did as to why Hunter wouldn't be happy with media today.

Trust me.

RabbleRouser2k · 07-08-2018 09:05PM

Brian? wrote: »

You seem to be missing my point. I want a source where she talks directly or writes about race. Not an article that is simply someone’s opinion on her tweets.

If she’s a man hating, racist journalist it shouldn’t be too hard to find. All I can find are more articles about her tweets and her blog. Her blog is clean.

I've seen many, many peddling the 'cancel white people' stuff, and too often they are women.
Go thru twitter-you'll see the 'white people are the biggest purveyors of rape, terrorism, racism etc'... as well as the 'cancel white people' s**t.

I saw someone tweet the above kind of message on a day when Canada suffered a terrorist attack by a Muslim terrorist. Her claims weren't even routed in fact.
Do a wiki or google search-you'll see caucasian countries don't even make the top 10-for any of that stuff.

Or there was the Guild Wars 2 devs who were fired for attacking the gaming customers-one was previously fired for the same thing. They both cried victim when it was behaviour nobody would endorse.

RasTa · 07-08-2018 09:40PM

Sal Butamol wrote: »

Read his letters collections. The Proud Highway and Fear and Loathing in America. Afterwards you'll understand why I made the post I did as to why Hunter wouldn't be happy with media today.

Trust me.

Sure Hunter himself said " “the best fiction is far more true than any kind of journalism.” Well Faulkner first which Hunter took on for his gonzo stuff so he would be delighted

Sal Butamol · 07-08-2018 09:46PM

RasTa wrote: »

Sure Hunter himself said " “the best fiction is far more true than any kind of journalism.” Well Faulkner first which Hunter took on for his gonzo stuff so he would be delighted

Delighted by what?

TomSweeney · 08-08-2018 11:00AM

DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »

Good piece on the whole controversy

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/sarah-jeong-and-the-battle-of-the-twittermobs/21656#.W2neF9JKjcs

Seriously ?

Sarah Jeong, a tech journalist, is the latest public figure to be shamed over old tweets. The four-year-old tweets, in which Jeong disparages white people, were dug up by right-wing tweeters after the New York Times announced she was joining its editorial board. Within 24 hours of the NYT’s announcement, a Twittermob was calling for her to be sacked. The tweets were ugly, peddling the strange kind of woke racialism perfected by identitarians. Here’s a selection: ‘Oh man it’s kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men’; ‘Are white people genetically predisposed to burn faster in the sun, thus logically being only fit to live underground like grovelling goblins?’; ‘white people marking up the internet with their opinions like dogs pissing on fire hydrants’. Charming, eh?
The NYT has stood by Jeong, as well it should.

Yeah , so "right wing tweeters" again the "liberal" left has fallen into the trap of smearing, so only right wingers should find that racism unacceptable ??
It's basically saying if you are upset by racism against whites - it's cos you are a far right nazi KKK asshole.

F*ck Off.

And the 2nd major piece of bull**** The NYT has stood by Jeong, as well it should.
I stopped reading.

But seriously, left wing MSM keep it up, Donald Trump is rubbing his hands together should be a landslide for him in 2020.

dav3 · 08-08-2018 11:14AM

TomSweeney wrote: »

But seriously, left wing MSM keep it up, Donald Trump is rubbing his hands together should be a landslide for him in 2020.

You do realise that this is an Irish forum right?

Roseanne fired but Sarah Jeong hired?

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