Are transexual women attractive to hetero men?

cruizer101 · 07-08-2018 02:10PM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

The way I see it is...

If some bloke gets turned on by a tranny. Then that's fine. If some bloke gets turned off by a tranny. Then that's also fine. If some tranny gets turned on by straight men too. Hey, guess what? that's also fine.
In any case I couldn't give a toss and neither should you. That's generally a tip for life. Not caring what others choose to do.

Chances are though if I get turned on I might well be giving a toss.. to myself :pac:

But really I do agree who cares who is attracted to who, I'm hetero but have seen some trans women who to be fair are gorgeous, not sure would I actually want to do anything with them but can't deny they are good looking.

LLMMLL · 07-08-2018 02:23PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Oh go away.

I'm sitting looking at a colleague talking on the phone to her wife.

Stop accusing everyone you see of "..... phobia" - insert phrase du jour.

I didn’t say anything about phobia. I’m just wondering what’s the difference between you thinking “her penis” signifies some kind of societal issue and people who think “her girlfriend” signifies some kind of societal issue.

PlaneSpeeking · 07-08-2018 02:34PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

I didn’t say anything about phobia. I’m just wondering what’s the difference between you thinking “her penis” signifies some kind of societal issue and people who think “her girlfriend” signifies some kind of societal issue.

F***s sake.

Because a penis belongs to the male of the species. Has done for millennia, still does in this bat s**t crazy world.

Of course that male need not have been born male but if there is a penis, they are a male. Remember biology ?

Anyone can have a girlfriend, male or female - it just takes asking a female out - and them saying yes.

LLMMLL · 07-08-2018 02:55PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

F***s sake.

Because a penis belongs to the male of the species. Has done for millennia, still does in this bat s**t crazy world.

Of course that male need not have been born male but if there is a penis, they are a male. Remember biology ?

Anyone can have a girlfriend, male or female - it just takes asking a female out - and them saying yes.

And some women (trans women) have penises.

Just because it doesn’t make sense to you doesn’t mean the worlds “gone up it’s own orifice”. Any more than women having girlfriends means it does.

Sardonicat · 07-08-2018 02:58PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Will I Am Not wrote: »

A person born a man can be transformed to look like an aesthetically attractive female. Just like someone could look at a hyper realistic drawing or waxwork of a woman and find the subject aesthetically attractive, it doesn’t make them attracted to paper and pencil or wax.

I've a mate with a list of people he can cheat on his wife with (she has same, before the feminist crowd weigh in!)

Atop this list is one Jessica Rabbit. The heart wants what the heart wants!

And the head wants checking!

bloodless_coup · 07-08-2018 03:04PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

And some women (trans women) have penises..

Does not compute.

If someone undergoes surgery to make themselves look like some celebrity, they have mental health issues. Same goes for trans people.

07-08-2018 03:56PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

And some women (trans women) have penises.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_cs2pGXneA

padd b1975 · 07-08-2018 04:02PM

If a hard Chaw like Franco Begbie can find himself standing to attention, it can happen to any of us.

Be careful out there!

PlaneSpeeking · 07-08-2018 04:18PM

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_cs2pGXneA

From the mouths of babes!!!

suicide_circus · 07-08-2018 04:21PM

doylefe wrote: »

Does not compute.

If someone undergoes surgery to make themselves look like some celebrity, they have mental health issues. Same goes for trans people.

No. They have always been that celebrity. the surgery is just a practicality.

wexie · 07-08-2018 04:26PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Because a penis belongs to the male of the species. Has done for millennia, still does in this bat s**t crazy world.

not anymore apparently...seems there are those out there that believe a man can suck **** and be entirely heterosexual.... and a woman can suck that very same **** and be gay.....wrap your head around that one....

manonboard · 07-08-2018 04:28PM

I'm hetro cis male.
Someone once gave me a thought experiment that was "Think of some really sexy women's clothes you like. Like a lacy bra, some underwear etc.. Now do you find that attractive?"
"Yes"
"Well that's not a biological women you find attractive. That's fabric material. You're attractive to things that represent to you stuff you have previously found yourself attracted to. Some is down to biology and culture, some is down to just practicing your attraction to it. So now you know that you can be attracted to things that are not women".

It was a quite a blunt, but interesting eye opener many years ago.

I would not date a trans woman most likely. A lot of their life they were living a male life. Their stories and life would represent this. Parts of their personality would be formed around this. It's not about just being attracted to a body. It's a whole life of a person in that body. It's fine to not what to be with someone because of stuff they've don't in their past. It's not judgemental to be content for them but still serve your own preferences.

manonboard · 07-08-2018 04:34PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

doylefe wrote: »

Does not compute.

If someone undergoes surgery to make themselves look like some celebrity, they have mental health issues. Same goes for trans people.

No. They have always been that celebrity. the surgery is just a practicality.

Why do you think they are 'always' that thing they want to be? What happens in the unlikely case they want to change back? Does that mean they were never always that thing?
I think it makes more sense to say they were who they were and they wanted to change some aspects of that, they may have always had the urge and desire, and always may have felt like something didn't suit them. It encompasses a much more accurate reality I think, and allows acknowledgement of all of them at each stage in their journey.

If gender is culturally formed, then neither of us are really a gender, merely playing a role by conscious/unconscious agreement. If its cultural, then its not something innate inside me.
If its not cultural, then its innate and all components of them, including the original body they are born in to is what they are, and as they change that, that also becomes what they are. It means though there was never a 'wrong' body or a 'should of'/'always' that makes any sense.

AfterLife · 07-08-2018 04:37PM

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Oh go away.

I'm sitting looking at a colleague talking on the phone to her wife.

Stop accusing everyone you see of "..... phobia" - insert phrase du jour.

Making up more anecdotes to suit your arguments I see.

suicide_circus · 07-08-2018 04:44PM

manonboard wrote: »

Why do you think they are 'always' that thing they want to be? What happens in the unlikely case they want to change back? Does that mean they were never always that thing?
I think it makes more sense to say they were who they were and they wanted to change some aspects of that, they may have always had the urge and desire, and always may have felt like something didn't suit them. It encompasses a much more accurate reality I think, and allows acknowledgement of all of them at each stage in their journey.

If gender is culturally formed, then neither of us are really a gender, merely playing a role by conscious/unconscious agreement. If its cultural, then its not something innate inside me.
If its not cultural, then its innate and all components of them, including the original body they are born in to is what they are, and as they change that, that also becomes what they are. It means though there was never a 'wrong' body or a 'should of'/'always' that makes any sense.

The only occasion on which one can be 100% solidly certain of gender is when the person in question is transgender. when one is cis gendered, gender is fluid and/or a social construct.

07-08-2018 04:44PM

manonboard wrote:

I'm hetro cis male. Someone once gave me a thought experiment that was "Think of some really sexy women's clothes you like. Like a lacy bra, some underwear etc.. Now do you find that attractive?" "Yes" "Well that's not a biological women you find attractive. That's fabric material. You're attractive to things that represent to you stuff you have previously found yourself attracted to. Some is down to biology and culture, some is down to just practicing your attraction to it. So now you know that you can be attracted to things that are not women".

You see a bra without a woman in it and you find the bra attractive?

Odd mate. I only find it attractive when on a woman and it's not the bra I find attractive.

That's a **** experiment.

sxt · 07-08-2018 04:44PM

Does anybody remember this show?There's something about Miriam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr6SXpdzMdc

The Bishop Basher · 07-08-2018 05:20PM

manonboard wrote: »

I'm hetro cis male.

So you're a man.. :rolleyes:

07-08-2018 05:20PM

wexie wrote: »

One look at Shay Serenity in conjunction with his/her/xer tweets tells you all you need to know about him/her/zer.

The Bishop Basher · 07-08-2018 05:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You see a bra without a woman in it and you find the bra attractive?

Odd mate. I only find it attractive when on a woman and it's not the bra I find attractive.

That's a **** experiment.

It's one of the weirdest things i've read in some time..

And we're talking about "women with cocks" ffs.

Sheeps · 07-08-2018 05:49PM

Omackeral wrote: »

One look at Shay Serenity in conjunction with his/her/xer tweets tells you all you need to know about him/her/zer.

That's genuinely hilarious.

manonboard · 07-08-2018 06:13PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

The only occasion on which one can be 100% solidly certain of gender is when the person in question is transgender. when one is cis gendered, gender is fluid and/or a social construct.

Could you explain please? I don't think I followed the logic

07-08-2018 06:17PM

manonboard wrote:

Could you explain please? I don't think I followed the logic

Pretty sure he was pointing that certain people are very hypocritical as they insist that they insist that all gender is fluid/on a spectrum unless they are talking about transgenderism as that person is 100% sure that they are meant to be the opposite gender.

Atoms for Peace · 07-08-2018 06:19PM

Ben D Bus wrote: »

In my day a tranny was a portable radio!

Or a Ford van.

manonboard · 07-08-2018 06:20PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You see a bra without a woman in it and you find the bra attractive?

Odd mate. I only find it attractive when on a woman and it's not the bra I find attractive.

That's a **** experiment.

I can definitely detect mental stimulation about it yes. It's an erotically linked item.

I find it odd that you'd need exactly something as strict as an actual person to find any sexually rated activity in you. (no judgment though)

How you reckon in that perspective why porn is different? It's literally just a picture of a woman. It's not a woman. It's a picture. Pixels on a screen. Its the same principle. Just something erotically linked.
That establishes a grey area to me which establishes the requirement of seeing things as a spectrum rather than a black n white view.

Of course. Your view of sexuality might just be very different than mine yet hold the same sexuality. Nothing wrong with that.

manonboard · 07-08-2018 06:22PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Pretty sure he was pointing that certain people are very hypocritical as they insist that they insist that all gender is fluid/on a spectrum unless they are talking about transgenderism as that person is 100% sure that they are meant to be the opposite gender.

I see. Thank you.

7 Seconds... · 07-08-2018 06:25PM

Being attracted to someone and thinking a person is beautiful or handsome are two different things in my opinion.

Lone Stone · 07-08-2018 06:31PM

yea sure i seen some jaw dropping ts plus its hard to tell.

07-08-2018 07:00PM

manonboard wrote:

How you reckon in that perspective why porn is different? It's literally just a picture of a woman. It's not a woman. It's a picture. Pixels on a screen. Its the same principle. Just something erotically linked. That establishes a grey area to me which establishes the requirement of seeing things as a spectrum rather than a black n white view.

That's really not the same. Porn is a video of a woman. I'm not attracted to the pixels. If they were in any other arrangement than depicting a woman, I wouldn't be aroused.

Similarly, there have been occasions when I've seen some very convincing trans women (not in real life) but once it became clear that they are biologically a man, I cease to be attracted to them. I am only attracted to women.

manonboard wrote:

I can definitely detect mental stimulation about it yes. It's an erotically linked item.

It's erotically linked because you are thinking about the woman wearing it, you aren't attracted to the bra.

That's different

Wibbs · 07-08-2018 07:03PM

Omackeral wrote: »

One look at Shay Serenity in conjunction with his/her/xer tweets tells you all you need to know about him/her/zer.

"It's a woman's penis".

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Good god there are more outside the walls of the loony bin than in.

Are transexual women attractive to hetero men?

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