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Words and Phrases We Didn't Have Back Then ....

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I've never heard that definition. But then again, I don't know what half the young ones do be saying these days. Sure sign I'm past it. I mean WTF does "woke" mean?

    Do we have to go back again to The Urban Dictionary? ;):D Is it related to "awake"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    Stanford wrote: »
    Still around..!! I often had the skin scrubbed off me with that and Carbolic Soap!!
    LOL! I well remember it. Came in a very unattractive block. It was all we had in those days, which I'll not go into. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Stanford


    acai berry wrote: »
    LOL! I well remember it. Came in a very unattractive block. It was all we had in those days, which I'll not go into. :pac:

    Absolutely lethal stuff but was less pain inflicting when the corners wore off the block..!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    giphy.gif

    For those who are interested in harking back to their childhood days!

    Don't mind me! Just experimenting with putting up a gif (there's another word, btw!)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    Stanford wrote: »
    Absolutely lethal stuff but was less pain inflicting when the corners wore off the block..!!

    You're so right, Stanford! In those days, it was common for families to have a "maid" servant employed. I have visions of the poor woman slaving away scrubbing wooden worktops and sinks with both the Vim and that soap. Her hands - poor thing!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    I like mass murderers (instead of serial killers).

    I could murder a good mass :rolleyes:

    I’ll get my tunic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    Star Bingo wrote: »
    I could murder a good mass :rolleyes:

    I’ll get my tunic

    Repeat! I like your jacket! :pac: :D


    Now here's one: "Money Laundering"! I believe that goes back to Al Capone days, 1930's, when the Italian Mafia used to buy up laundromats for use as cover for ill-gotten money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    acai berry wrote: »
    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I've never heard that definition. But then again, I don't know what half the young ones do be saying these days. Sure sign I'm past it. I mean WTF does "woke" mean?

    Do we have to go back again to The Urban Dictionary? ;):D Is it related to "awake"?
    I'm fecked if I know. I tried Urban Dictionary and nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I'm fecked if I know. I tried Urban Dictionary and nothing.

    LOL! Regarding the word "woke" we've come up with a road block. In what context was that word used, Sardonicat? Do we have to revert to the standard dictionary? :confused::D

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    Years ago there was no candy, we all ate sweets.

    Truth be known, Charles Babbage, there probably still isn't any candy in Ireland. It's mostly in America, far as I know. This subject came up earlier in the thread. :pac: :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    CRIME VOCABULARY WORD LIST (565)
    A) Abuse, Accessory, Accomplice, Accused, Accuser, Activists, Adversary, Affect, AFIS, Against, Agency, Aggravated assault, Alarm, Alcohol, Alert, Alias, Alibi, Alienate, Allegation, Ammunition, APB, Appeal, Armed, Arraignment, Arrest, Arsenal, Arson, Art forgery, Assailant, Assault, Attack, Authority, Autopsy
    B) Background check, Backup, Bail, Ballistics, Battery, Beat, Behavior, Behind bars, Belligerence, Big house, Blackmail, Bloodstain, Bombing, Brawl, Breach, Break-in, Breaking and entering, Bribery, Brutality, Bullying, Burden of proof, Burglary, Bystander
    C) Capture, Case, Caution, Chase, Cheat, Civil, Claim, Coercion, Collusion, Combat, Commission, Commit, Complaint, Complication, Conduct, Confession, Connection, Conspiracy, Contact, Contacts, Contempt, Control, Controversial, Conviction, Cops, Coroner, Corruption, Counsel, Counterfeit, Court, Credit theft, Crime, Criminal, Criminal justice system, Criminology, Cuffs, Custody
    D) Damage, Danger, Dangerous, Dark side, Data base, Deadly, Deal, Dealings, Death, Deed, Defendant, Defense, Deliberate, Delinquency, Democratic, Denial, Department, Deputy, Detail, Detain, Detection, Detective, Deter, Determination, Deviant, Direct, Discovery, Dismember, Disobedience, Disorderly, Dispatch, Disregard, Disruption, District attorney, DNA, Documentation, Documents, Domestic, Dossier, Drill, Drugs, Duty
    E) Educate, Education, Effect, Elusive, Embezzle, Emergency, Enable, Encumber, Enforce, Entail, Equality, Escape, Ethical, Evasive, Eviction, Evidence, Evil, Examination, Execute, Exonerate, Expert, Explosives, Expunge, Extort, Extradition, Extreme
    F) Failure, Fairness, Family, Fatality, Fault, FBI, Federal, Felony, Ferocity, Fight, Fighting, Fine, Fingerprint, Firebombing, First-degree, Flee, Footprints, Forbidden, Force, Forensics, Forgery, Formal charge, Frantic, Fraud, Freedom, Full-scale, Fundamental, Furtive
    G) Good guys, Gory, Government, Grief, Grievance, Guarantee, Guard, Guilty, Gun, Gunrunning
    H) Hand-to-hand, Handcuffs, Handle, Harassment, Harm, Harmful, Headquarters, Heinous, Helicopter, Help, Helpful, High-powered rifle, High-profile, Hijack, Hire, Holding cell, Holster, Homicide, Honesty, Honor, Hostage, Hot-line, Humanity
    I) Identification, Illegal, Immoral, Immunity, Impeach, Impression, Imprison, Improper, Incarceration, Incompetent, Incriminating, Indictment, Influence, Informant, Information, Initiative, Injury, Inmate, Innocence, Innocent, Inquest, Instruct, Integrity, Intelligence, Interests, Interference, International, Interpol, Interpretation, Interrogate, Interrogate, Interstate, Intervention, Interview, Intrastate, Intruder, Invasive, Investigate, Investigation, Irregular, Irresponsible, Issue
    J) Jail, John Doe, Judge, Judgment, Judicial, Judiciary, Jurisdiction, Jury, Justice, Juvenile
    K) Kidnapping, Kill, Killer, Kin
    L) Laboratory, Larceny, Law, Law-abiding, Lawfully, Lawsuit, Lawyer, Leaks, Lease, Legal, Legislation, Legitimate, Lethal, Libel, Liberty, License, Lie detector, Lien, Lieutenant, Limits, Long hours, Lowlife, Loyalty, Lynch
    M) Mace, Maintain, Majority, Malice, Malpractice, Manacled, Manslaughter, Marshal, Mayhem, Metal detector, Minor, Minority, Miscreant, Misdemeanor, Missing person, Mission, Model, Money laundering, Moratorium, Motorist, Murder, Murderer
    N) National, Negligent, Negotiable, Negotiate, Neighborhood, Network, Nine-one-one, Notation, Notification, Nuisance
    O) Oath, Obey, Obligation, Offender, Offense, Officer, Official, On-going, Open case, Opinion, Opportunity, Order, Organize, Ownership
    P) Partner, Partnership, Pathology, Patrol, Pattern, Pedestrian, Peeping Tom, Penalize, Penalty, Perjury, Perpetrator, Petition, Petty theft, Phony, Plainclothes officer, Plea, Plead, Police, Policy, Power, Precedent, Precinct, Preliminary findings, Prevention, Principle, Prior, Prison, Private, Probable cause, Probation, Probation officer, Procedure, Professional, Profile, Prohibit, Proof, Property, Prosecute, Prosecutor, Prostitution, Protection, Protocol, Provision, Public, Punishment
    Q) Quake, Qualification, Quality, Quantify, Quantity, Quarrel, Quell, Question, Quickly, Quirk, Quiver
    R) Radar, Raid, Rank, Rap sheet, Rape, Reason, Reckless endangerment, Record, Recovery, Recruit, Redress, Reduction, Refute, Register, Regulations, Reinforcement, Reject, Release, Repeal, Reported, Reports, Reprobate, Reputation, Requirement, Resist, Responsibility, Restitution, Restraining order, Restriction, Revenge, Rights, Riot, Robbery, Rogue, Rough, Rules, Rulings
    S) Sabotage, Safeguard, Sanction, Scene, Sealed record, Search and rescue team, Secret, Seize, Seizure, Selection, Sentence, Sergeant, Serial killer, Seriousness, Services, Sex crimes, Shackles, Sheriff, Shooting, Shyster, Sighting, Situation, Skillful, Slander, Slashing, Slaying, Smuggling, Sorrow, Speculation, Spying, Squad, Stabbing, Stalking, Statute, Statute of limitation, Stigma, Stipulation, Subdue, Subpoena, Successful, Summons, Supervise, Suppress, Surveillance, Survivor, Suspect, Suspected, Suspicion, Suspicious, Sworn, System
    T) Tactic, Task force, Terrorism, Testify, Testimony, Theft, Threatening, Three-strikes law, Thwart, Tire-slashing, Torture, Toxicology, Trace, Traffic, Trafficking, Tragedy, Transfer, Trauma, Treatment, Trespass, Trial, Trooper, Trust
    U) Unacceptable, Unauthorized, Unclaimed, Unconstitutional, Undercover, Underpaid, Understaffed, Unexpected, Unharmed, Uniform, Unintentional, Unit, Unjust, Unknown, Unlawful, Unsolved, Uphold
    V) Vagrancy, Vandalism, Viable, Vice, Victim, Victimize, Victory, Vigilance, Vigilante, Violate, Violation, Violence, Volunteer, Vow, Voyeurism, Vulnerable
    W) Wanted poster, Ward, Warning, Warped, Warrant, Watch, Weapon, Will, Wiretap, Wisdom, Witness, Worse, Wrong
    X)
    Y) Youth
    Z) Zeal, Zealous

    For what it's worth, I found this list of forensic vocabulary Looking down through it, I'm not so sure if I can find any words that have found their way in in recent times. Mayvbe someone here can do better.

    Come to think of it, maybe the first one, "abuse" is now used in a differnet sense to how it was used in the past.

    Also "activists" probably is fairly new.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    acai berry wrote: »
    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I'm fecked if I know. I tried Urban Dictionary and nothing.

    LOL! Regarding the word "woke" we've come up with a road block. In what contesxt was that word used, Sardonicat? Do we have to revert to the standard dictionary? :confused::D

    .
    I think it's used by the young feminists as something to aspire to be and conversely used as an insult by young men who don't agree with them. As I'm not not sure what it means I don't know if I'm woke or not. Don't know if it's gender specific and shouldn't apply to me as a woman. Maybe I don't want to be "woke". Maybe I've always been "woke"( I suspect that may be the case) I've come across the expression "woke man" being used as an insult by a man. Anyway, I'd just like to know what it means so I can replace it's use with a PROPER BLOODY WORD!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    I love this one used in the American crime programmes: BOLO! Be On the LookOut.

    Also APB - All Points Bulletin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    I think it's used by the young feminists as something to aspire to be and conversely used as an insult by young men who don't agree with them. As I'm not not sure what it means I don't know if I'm woke or not. Don't know if it's gender specific and shouldn't apply to me as a woman. Maybe I don't want to be "woke". Maybe I've always been "woke"( I suspect that may be the case) I've come across the expression "woke man" being used as an insult by a man. Anyway, I'd just like to know what it means so I can replace it's use with a PROPER BLOODY WORD!

    Thanks for that, Sardonicat! I just did a little search for uses of the word and this was the first thing that came up.
    Woke is a slang term that is easing into the mainstream from some varieties of a dialect called African American Vernacular English (sometimes called AAVE). In AAVE, awake is often rendered as woke, as in, “I was sleeping, but now I'm woke.” 'Woke' is increasingly used as a byword for social awareness.

    So I'm guessing the PROPER BLOODY version that you would prefer is "social awareness". Maybe, as older people would say "some savvy".;) :D

    It also refers on the the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Why thank you. So yes, I'd like to think I'm woke but as with everyone there always room for improvement. I'm guessing in the context it's being used these days it relates to being aware of things like cultural and institutional racism and sexism.

    I'll stick to social awareness, though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    mackeire wrote: »
    Circle K
    It's only now it's dawning on me what that is - the new name for Topaz garages. Spot on, mackeire! :D;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Why thank you. So yes, I'd like to think I'm woke but as with everyone there always room for improvement. I'm guessing in the context it's being used these days it relates to being aware of things like cultural and institutional racism and sexism.

    I'll stick to social awareness, though.

    Me neither, Sardonicat; I don't think I will be using "woke" in that sense any time soon. But it's good to be armed with that knowledge, in case anyone uses it in my company.

    That brings to mind a word a friend used to me recently i.e. that she had been "ghosted" by her boyfriend. She assumed I didn't know what that meant, but somehow or other, I had just a short time previously come across it, so I was ready for her. LOL! You hear something once and then you start hearing it all over the place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Problem solving is now trouble shooting.

    Taking risks became pushing the envelope

    Baby'a prams/ buggies are called travel systems


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Problem solving is now trouble shooting.

    Taking risks became pushing the envelope

    Baby'a prams/ buggies are called travel systems

    You're a fund of information, Sardinicat. I like the last one in particular!

    Back to my one-track forensic mind, I think the term "Wiretap" probably is fairly new, as it refers to technology.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,475 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Here's one:

    The word "gross"meaning disgusting was given to us by none other than the wonderful George Harrison. First used in "A Hard Day's Night" he tells a promoter his shirts are gross and then elaborates to explain that it's a new way to say grotesque. Strictly speaking it was the script writer who wrote the exchange but he observed the Beatles and tried to stay as close to their ways of speaking as possible so it's fairly safe to assume that it was the lovely George who gave us that word or at the very least directly contributed it's common use. Hard to associate him with anything gross.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    Amazing, Sardonicat! You wouldn't think a word in such common use nowdays had such an unusual start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭Speedsie
    ¡arriba, arriba! ¡andale, andale!


    acai berry wrote: »
    Back to my one-track forensic mind, I think the term "Wiretap" probably is fairly new, as it refers to technology.

    Wiretap goes back to the 1920s, so not that new.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭Speedsie
    ¡arriba, arriba! ¡andale, andale!


    Speedsie wrote: »
    Wiretap goes back to the 1920s, so not that new.

    Actually it's older than that...
    "Wiretapping first became a tool of U.S. law enforcement in the 1890s, but the Supreme Court didn't establish its constitutionality until 1928, at the height of Prohibition."
    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2022653,00.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,983 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    Olay was Oil of Ulay.

    To thine own self be true



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    Speedsie wrote: »
    Actually it's older than that...
    "Wiretapping first became a tool of U.S. law enforcement in the 1890s, but the Supreme Court didn't establish its constitutionality until 1928, at the height of Prohibition."
    http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2022653,00.html

    You're right, Speedsie! It's older than I had thought, but still fairly new.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    "Drone" for unmanned aircraft
    The word "drone" was first used of an unmanned aerial vehicle in 1946, but advances in drone technology in the past few years have made the term much more common.

    The word drone is inspired by the name for male bees, i.e "drone". It has a buzzing sound and acts in a mindless way as regards not participating with the other bees collecting honey etc.

    See more:
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/how-did-drones-get-their-name


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 527 ✭✭✭acai berry


    "Three-strikes Law" - American.

    I presume originating from the saying "Three strikes and you're out!"

    https://www.taylor-taylor-law.com/taylor-taylor-legal-blog/2014/january/the-history-and-future-of-the-three-strikes-laws/
    Three strikes laws currently exist in more than 20 different states. The original "Three strikes and you're out" campaign was launched by the father of an 18-year-old young woman who was murdered in 1992 by a man with an extensive criminal record. The law didn't come to fruition until after the 1993 abduction and murder of a 12-year-old California girl. After that murder, more than 800,000 people signed a petition to enact the state's first legislation designed to not only deter repeat offenders but to enforce a stringent 25 years to life sentence on those individuals who were convicted of a third consecutive criminal offense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,810 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Had the kids in Bray last week, the 5 year old spots something in a shop and asks for it - "can I have some cotton candy?" (She watches a lot of American crap on you tube) I explain that in Ireland we call it candy floss and off we toddle to get some.

    It doesn't come on a stick anymore it comes in a bleeding plastic paint pot with cotton candy printed on it.

    I don't want to live in this world anymore:mad:

    Anyway - my point was we didn't used to say cotton candy - I for one refuse to change!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭valoren


    acai berry wrote: »
    "Three-strikes Law" - American.

    I presume originating from the saying "Three strikes and you're out!"

    https://www.taylor-taylor-law.com/taylor-taylor-legal-blog/2014/january/the-history-and-future-of-the-three-strikes-laws/

    Perhaps a football equivalent would be more apt. Yellow card-Red card. Why wait for them to commit a crime for a third time so to speak.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 173 ✭✭Mike Hoch


    I was very good at English and well read back in the old school days, got an A3 without ever even having read whatever Jane Austen book was on the course that LC year (like I was gonna read that)

    I never heard of the word Bespoke before around 2013.

    I never heard of gluten, or gluten free, before 2009.

    Then the amount of made up sexual preferences and gender disorders. Pansexual, genderqueer, it's all post 2015 horse****.


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