Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

~Rebel~ wrote: »

The flipside of Jose though, is the number of attacking players who he's bombed out of clubs and have gone on (swiftly) to be proven quality. We all know the type of guy he likes. A hard-working Willian who runs and works and happily does all the pragmatic stuff. He's brilliant when he has those guys to hand, but struggles to get the best out of the more mercurial types who want to be a part of scintillating attacking football. Which begs the question why the bejesus did Utd even buy Pogba for him anyway. More marketing than footballing reasons I presume?

And whilst Jose wins everywhere, after 2 or so years under his methods, he usually seems to have a few disgruntled players in the ranks. I don't necessarily think his game plan is limited to 2 years, but if he's not working with an entire team who buy fully into what he's all about, attitudes and ideologies start getting in the way. It just feels like there are still quite a few at Utd who think about football in a very different way than he does, and that he hasn't really been backed with the type of players he needs. Perisic, when he wanted him last year for instance, or Willian this year.

Yeh, This is exactly the point I have been making. Pogba wasn’t bought for Jose he was bought for other reasons. Same as 3 of the 4 transfers thus summer where not first team Jose priorities.

What’s the point in spending hundreds of millions on players who aren’t going to work well with a manager? Hell even mata has managed to show the mental strength and work rate to work his way into Jose’s plans. That’s a sign that if you work hard enough you can make it work. But players have it all so easy nowadays a lot don’t see the value in adding this strength to their game.

Supposedly Deshamp even said to Pogba that Jose will make him a better player. I’m not sure Pogba has the humility or drive to add this quality to his game. He believes his own hype and doesn’t appear to be a player who feels he needs to knuckle down at united. It’s the club/manager that’s the problem, not him.

The solution is either offload player or manager. There is no guarantee a new manager will improve things or even get that player to work.

If we look at the last 6 premier league winners (I forget to include united sometimes!), they have all been pathetic at putting in a decent challange of their title. Managers have been the ones to go in every scenario. This empowers the players even more and continues the constant excusing of players unprofessionalism.

The irony for me was that Jose left one of the best squads around in the 00s that even Abrams grant nearly won all honors. That squad picked itself and had the mental strength to win with even di matteo in charge. These are the players who work well with Jose , not the Pogbas who need everything setup to their liking for them to perform.