~Rebel~ wrote: » Could see a repeat of the Coutinho bollocks... where yee hang onto him till January or next summer. Be mad to let him go so close to the window shutting, unless their deal includes Dembele at very least. Should be asking for Rakitic as well. Think that'd be a decent move, the pair of them for Pogba would probably see a net improvement in the team.
~Rebel~ wrote: » The flipside of Jose though, is the number of attacking players who he's bombed out of clubs and have gone on (swiftly) to be proven quality. We all know the type of guy he likes. A hard-working Willian who runs and works and happily does all the pragmatic stuff. He's brilliant when he has those guys to hand, but struggles to get the best out of the more mercurial types who want to be a part of scintillating attacking football. Which begs the question why the bejesus did Utd even buy Pogba for him anyway. More marketing than footballing reasons I presume? And whilst Jose wins everywhere, after 2 or so years under his methods, he usually seems to have a few disgruntled players in the ranks. I don't necessarily think his game plan is limited to 2 years, but if he's not working with an entire team who buy fully into what he's all about, attitudes and ideologies start getting in the way. It just feels like there are still quite a few at Utd who think about football in a very different way than he does, and that he hasn't really been backed with the type of players he needs. Perisic, when he wanted him last year for instance, or Willian this year.
Drumpot wrote: » Yeh, This is exactly the point I have been making. Pogba wasn’t bought for Jose he was bought for other reasons. Same as 3 of the 4 transfers thus summer where not first team Jose priorities. What’s the point in spending hundreds of millions on players who aren’t going to work well with a manager? Hell even mata has managed to show the mental strength and work rate to work his way into Jose’s plans. That’s a sign that if you work hard enough you can make it work. But players have it all so easy nowadays a lot don’t see the value in adding this strength to their game. Supposedly Deshamp even said to Pogba that Jose will make him a better player. I’m not sure Pogba has the humility or drive to add this quality to his game. He believes his own hype and doesn’t appear to be a player who feels he needs to knuckle down at united. It’s the club/manager that’s the problem, not him. The solution is either offload player or manager. There is no guarantee a new manager will improve things or even get that player to work. If we look at the last 6 premier league winners (I forget to include united sometimes!), they have all been pathetic at putting in a decent challange of their title. Managers have been the ones to go in every scenario. This empowers the players even more and continues the constant excusing of players unprofessionalism. The irony for me was that Jose left one of the best squads around in the 00s that even Abrams grant nearly won all honors. That squad picked itself and had the mental strength to win with even di matteo in charge. These are the players who work well with Jose , not the Pogbas who need everything setup to their liking for them to perform.
J. Marston wrote: » If he's off, it's yet another disastrous superstar signing.
Turtwig wrote: » I dunno.Barca's midfield is stacked already. Unless they intend to play him as ten or something I doubt the offer is genuine. If Pogba were to move - and as a neutral I really hope he doesn't - Juve with Ronaldo up top would suit him in spades. Most teams Barca play sit deeper. I don't think he's suited to disassembling buses tbh.
Cantona's Collars wrote: Breaking | Manchester United have turned down a €50m + Yerry Mina & André Gomes offer for Paul Pogba from Barcelona, according to @DiMarzio.
How Soon Is Now wrote: » I cant see the club letting him go for marketing and money reasons alone. Footballing reasons who bloody well knows! He would have to demand a move and create a fuss to make it happen at this stage its way to late in the window for us to find a replacement.
Drumpot wrote: » I would absolutely love it if he moved, we got two top top quality players in the fiat team (ala Liverpool - Coutihno) and it all clicked together for Jose/united. Wouldn’t it be gas or horrible (depending on your stance) if Pogba and Jose wanted the move but it was the owners who wanted to keep a marketing cash cow purely for marketing purposes!
brinty wrote: » Coutinho and Suarez folks... Simples... Swap Mina for Mike I don't think that the absent M!Ck^ would be too happy if big Phil goes
pjohnson wrote: » Cash only is stupid. At this stage we need the replacement player handed to us aswell.
Business Cat wrote: » If they want him then the asking price should be Neymar money, up front. If they can't / won't pay it they can pfo.
Business Cat wrote: I wouldn't want a yoke like Suarez next nor near the club tbh, detestable human, not that he'd join us anyway.
Lord TSC wrote: » Do you trust Us to get in any replacement in a separate deal within the next three days? If we lose our main/only creative midfielder, we desperately need to demand a top level creative replacement in any deal.
Mitch Connor wrote: » We simply can't sell Pogba. We have shown an inability to make key signings this summer, no faith Woodward could bring in a replacement for Pogba. Losing Pogba at this stage would be laughable. It just shouldn't be considered. At all.
BenK wrote: » That Pogba rumour has to be made up- how could Barca make that offer with a straight face? If it is true, it's not very encouraging on how United's competence with transfers is viewed!
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