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Roseanne fired but Sarah Jeong hired?

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  • #122
    Keepaneye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭Keepaneye


    It's funny, the same insufferable poster defending this cretin will always attack a poster decrying potentially dangerous refugees being released in Ireland. Selective social justice warriors.


  • #123
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Hapax Legomenon wrote: »
    To give those guys some credit, they're so much better at offending and inciting hatred. Sarah Jeong's tweets were, at worst, tiresome.

    That's your opinion. I'd argue that they're part of a social movement which is endemic and incredibly harmful to young whites and young males - "you're fair game to be attacked and you don't get to defend yourself or hit back, you just have to sit there and take it".

    It's not dissimilar to the (in my view) psychological harm done to young boys by the "never hit a girl, even if she hits you first and you're defending yourself, just because she's a girl" thing. It immediately invokes the "why am I not worth as much, why don't I get the same protection from attack as they do? Why doesn't it matter if someone hurts me, just because I'm male / white"?

    Children don't think about bullsh!t academic concepts and historical context, they just see what's happening here and now and whether one person is being given more freedom than another just because of their demographic. In my view, there's more or less zero possibility that this doesn't cause psychological harm. I know for an absolutely fact that it f*cked me up big time and it took me years to sort out that sh!te.

    Racism and sexism against whites and males is dangerous because of the accompanying undertone of "you deserve this somehow". Children who cannot possibly be expected to understand the "macro" debates and contexts to these battles are going to come across this stuff and just think "great, the world hates me because I'm white / a boy". And yes, it is "the world", because when you're a young pre-teen, what you see in the newspapers or on the TV does represent the world at large, in your young mind.


  • #124
    Oafley Jones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,545 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones


    Is there a way to block all posters who joined since the start of the year?


  • #125
    dav3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    So we're all agreed then. When we head down to our local shop tomorrow morning to buy the paper, we won't be picking up the New York Times. That'll show them.


  • #126
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    dav3 wrote: »
    So we're all agreed then. When we head down to our local shop tomorrow morning to buy the paper, we won't be picking up the New York Times. That'll show them.

    :D Or maybe send them a strongly worded email!


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  • #127
    Keepaneye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭Keepaneye


    Oafley Jones wrote: »
    Is there a way to block all posters who joined since the start of the year?

    There are many alternative echo chambers you can escape to on the internet if you're that sensitive.


  • #128
    keffiyeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭keffiyeh


    splashuum wrote: »
    I find it incredible that main stream media can pick and choose who and what they define as racist.
    Sarah Jeong has just been hired by the New York Times despite her clear hatred against white people. What is even more astounding is that the NYT have doubled down on Jeong after seeing her tweets. They have now publicly declared a vote of confidence in her.

    Did NYT fire Roseanne? No. Different companies different standards, seems very obvious.


  • #129
    [Deleted User]
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    Lash Into The Pints wrote: »
    Why can't you answer his question?

    Because he's an absolute hypocrite on this issue.

    If anyone here admitted to being offended then what are the odds that they'd be told they've no right to be because white people have historically had the edge when it comes to colonialism and they should check their history and maybe even their famous white privilege. Why should some random white fella or girl bare the brunt for something people hundreds of years ago did? Why should they feel guilt for something they never had a hand in? Always fascinates me that one.


  • #130
    keffiyeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭keffiyeh


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Because he's an absolute hypocrite on this issue.

    If anyone here admitted to being offended then what are the odds that they'd be told they've no right to be because white people have historically had the edge when it comes to colonialism and they should check their history and maybe even their famous white privilege. Why should some random white fella or girl bare the brunt for something people hundreds of years ago did? Why should they feel guilt for something they never had a hand in? Always fascinates me that one.

    Guilt has never been asked for, it's acknowledgement. But people with a racist snowflake agenda try to reframe it into 'guilt'.


  • #131
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    dav3 wrote: »
    So we're all agreed then. When we head down to our local shop tomorrow morning to buy the paper, we won't be picking up the New York Times. That'll show them.

    If all those tweets she made were homophobic I bet you wouldn't be posting such a trite remark.


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  • #132
    Anthracite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Anthracite


    I bit like the whole British/Irish thing. I don't blame modern British people for what their ancestors did, but I do expect them to acknowledge that harm was done to our ancestors.

    Acknowledgement, not guilt.


  • #133
    pleas advice
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    Oafley Jones wrote: »
    Is there a way to block all posters who joined since the start of the year?

    i = 868197

    https://www.boards. ie/vbulletin/profile.php?do=addlist&userlist=ignore&u=

    i++

    20 GOTO 10


  • #134
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    keffiyeh wrote: »
    Guilt has never been asked for, it's acknowledgement. But people with a racist snowflake agenda try to reframe it into 'guilt'.

    Acknowledgement of what exactly?


  • #135
    dav3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,671 ✭✭✭dav3


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    If all those tweets she made were homophobic I bet you wouldn't be posting such a trite remark.

    What kind of bet are we talking about here?


  • #136
    The Pheasant2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭The Pheasant2


    Will I Am Not wrote: »
    Please tell me you’re a parody account.

    Nope; he's just a moron.


  • #137
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    keffiyeh wrote: »
    Guilt has never been asked for, it's acknowledgement. But people with a racist snowflake agenda try to reframe it into 'guilt'.

    I acknowledge that my Irish ancestors were victims of British imperialism. I forgive all modern British people since they werent there.

    I don’t forgive Sarah Jeong for being part of the US empire though. Since she’s alive now.


  • #138
    DONTMATTER
    Site Banned Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭DONTMATTER


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    I acknowledge that my Irish ancestors were victims of British imperialism. I forgive all modern British people since they werent there.

    I don’t forgive Sarah Jeong for being part of the US empire though. Since she’s alive now.

    Am, the British security forces were still bombing and shooting innocent Irish people dead in the very recent past.


  • #139
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    dav3 wrote: »
    What kind of bet are we talking about here?

    This one.


  • #140
    keffiyeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭keffiyeh


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Acknowledgement of what exactly?

    Are ye havin a laff?


  • #141
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    DONTMATTER wrote: »
    Am, the British security forces were still bombing and shooting innocent Irish people dead in the very recent past.

    Well not in the republic. I’m just reacting to the “we whites should acknowledge our guilt” utter ****. News: whites have lots of different and diverse histories.


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  • #142
    DONTMATTER
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    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    Well not in the republic. I’m just reacting to the “we whites should acknowledge our guilt” utter ****. News: whites gave lots of different and diverse histories.

    I'm just correcting your error. Many British people were there while Irish people were murdered by their forces, this included both north and south.


  • #143
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    keffiyeh wrote: »
    Are ye havin a laff?

    No. Do go on.


  • #144
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    keffiyeh wrote: »
    Are ye havin a laff?


    No. Explain it to me, what this acknowledgement is? That I should acknowledge.


  • #145
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    keffiyeh wrote: »
    Did NYT fire Roseanne? No. Different companies different standards, seems very obvious.

    Oh dear.. are you not aware of the NYT sacking staff for racist tweets previously? But letting this one go?


  • #146
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    keffiyeh wrote: »
    Are ye havin a laff?

    I guess you'd be as vocally in favour of all Muslims acknowledging the Mughal slaughter of millions of hindus in India, the Armenian genocide and the sacking of Europe by the Ottomans as well.

    Just for consistency like.


  • #147
    Venom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    Well not in the republic. I’m just reacting to the “we whites should acknowledge our guilt” utter ****. News: whites have lots of different and diverse histories.


    Hate to break it to you but white people are not allowed to be considered different or diverse these days.


    https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/apples-diversity-chief-lasts-just-six-months/



    Denise Young Smith, Apple's vice president of diversity and inclusion, had to step down after stating “There can be 12 white, blue-eyed, blond men in a room and they’re going to be diverse too because they’re going to bring a different life experience and life perspective to the conversation." due to the usual outrage mob going after her.


  • #148
    keffiyeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 206 ✭✭keffiyeh


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    No. Explain it to me, what this acknowledgement is? That I should acknowledge.

    When you say 'white guilt' but it's actually 'acknowledgement', subtract the white from guilt, and then figure it out, because it's real obvious.

    You know what never mind, messing around with intentionally dense internet trolls with racist snowflake agendas is just boring. The 'acknowledgement' required is what the white race perpetrated against places like the African and American continents. Reframing the argument into just 'british colonists' is extremely intellectually dishonest. Plenty of others have benefitted from it. I can't imagine being such a butthurt baby that maybe acknowledging this would make me whinge online.


  • #149
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    keffiyeh wrote: »
    When you say 'white guilt' but it's actually 'acknowledgement', subtract the white from guilt, and then figure it out, because it's real obvious.

    You know what never mind, messing around with intentionally dense internet trolls with racist snowflake agendas is just boring. The 'acknowledgement' required is what the white race perpetrated against places like the African and American continents. Reframing the argument into just 'british colonists' is extremely intellectually dishonest. Plenty of others have benefitted from it. I can't imagine being such a butthurt baby that maybe acknowledging this would make me whinge online.


    So what you are saying is?


  • #150
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    keffiyeh wrote: »
    I can't imagine being such a butthurt baby that maybe acknowledging this.

    So because a British colonist acted brutally toward an African several centuries ago, an Irish man should feel guilt as he is the same skin tone as said colonist?

    Yeah, you're a racist gob****e.


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  • #151
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Oh dear.. are you not aware of the NYT sacking staff for racist tweets previously? But letting this one go?

    They didn’t hire an American (secular) Muslim called Razib Kahn, a scientist and blogger, who had some views that disagreed with orthodoxy on intelligence and genetics.


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