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Roseanne fired but Sarah Jeong hired?

splashuum

I find it incredible that main stream media can pick and choose who and what they define as racist.
Sarah Jeong has just been hired by the New York Times despite her clear hatred against white people. What is even more astounding is that the NYT have doubled down on Jeong after seeing her tweets. They have now publicly declared a vote of confidence in her.

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Keepaneye

It's funny, the same insufferable poster defending this cretin will always attack a poster decrying potentially dangerous refugees being released in Ireland. Selective social justice warriors.

hatrickpatrick

Hapax Legomenon wrote: »

To give those guys some credit, they're so much better at offending and inciting hatred. Sarah Jeong's tweets were, at worst, tiresome.

That's your opinion. I'd argue that they're part of a social movement which is endemic and incredibly harmful to young whites and young males - "you're fair game to be attacked and you don't get to defend yourself or hit back, you just have to sit there and take it".

It's not dissimilar to the (in my view) psychological harm done to young boys by the "never hit a girl, even if she hits you first and you're defending yourself, just because she's a girl" thing. It immediately invokes the "why am I not worth as much, why don't I get the same protection from attack as they do? Why doesn't it matter if someone hurts me, just because I'm male / white"?

Children don't think about bullsh!t academic concepts and historical context, they just see what's happening here and now and whether one person is being given more freedom than another just because of their demographic. In my view, there's more or less zero possibility that this doesn't cause psychological harm. I know for an absolutely fact that it f*cked me up big time and it took me years to sort out that sh!te.

Racism and sexism against whites and males is dangerous because of the accompanying undertone of "you deserve this somehow". Children who cannot possibly be expected to understand the "macro" debates and contexts to these battles are going to come across this stuff and just think "great, the world hates me because I'm white / a boy". And yes, it is "the world", because when you're a young pre-teen, what you see in the newspapers or on the TV does represent the world at large, in your young mind.

Oafley Jones

Is there a way to block all posters who joined since the start of the year?

dav3

So we're all agreed then. When we head down to our local shop tomorrow morning to buy the paper, we won't be picking up the New York Times. That'll show them.

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dav3 wrote: »

So we're all agreed then. When we head down to our local shop tomorrow morning to buy the paper, we won't be picking up the New York Times. That'll show them.

Or maybe send them a strongly worded email!

Keepaneye

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Is there a way to block all posters who joined since the start of the year?

There are many alternative echo chambers you can escape to on the internet if you're that sensitive.

keffiyeh

splashuum wrote: »

I find it incredible that main stream media can pick and choose who and what they define as racist.
Sarah Jeong has just been hired by the New York Times despite her clear hatred against white people. What is even more astounding is that the NYT have doubled down on Jeong after seeing her tweets. They have now publicly declared a vote of confidence in her.

Did NYT fire Roseanne? No. Different companies different standards, seems very obvious.

[Deleted User]

Lash Into The Pints wrote: »

Why can't you answer his question?

Because he's an absolute hypocrite on this issue.

If anyone here admitted to being offended then what are the odds that they'd be told they've no right to be because white people have historically had the edge when it comes to colonialism and they should check their history and maybe even their famous white privilege. Why should some random white fella or girl bare the brunt for something people hundreds of years ago did? Why should they feel guilt for something they never had a hand in? Always fascinates me that one.

keffiyeh

Omackeral wrote: »

Because he's an absolute hypocrite on this issue.

If anyone here admitted to being offended then what are the odds that they'd be told they've no right to be because white people have historically had the edge when it comes to colonialism and they should check their history and maybe even their famous white privilege. Why should some random white fella or girl bare the brunt for something people hundreds of years ago did? Why should they feel guilt for something they never had a hand in? Always fascinates me that one.

Guilt has never been asked for, it's acknowledgement. But people with a racist snowflake agenda try to reframe it into 'guilt'.

Outlaw Pete

dav3 wrote: »

So we're all agreed then. When we head down to our local shop tomorrow morning to buy the paper, we won't be picking up the New York Times. That'll show them.

If all those tweets she made were homophobic I bet you wouldn't be posting such a trite remark.

Anthracite

I bit like the whole British/Irish thing. I don't blame modern British people for what their ancestors did, but I do expect them to acknowledge that harm was done to our ancestors.

Acknowledgement, not guilt.

pleas advice

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Is there a way to block all posters who joined since the start of the year?

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Sweetemotion

keffiyeh wrote: »

Guilt has never been asked for, it's acknowledgement. But people with a racist snowflake agenda try to reframe it into 'guilt'.

Acknowledgement of what exactly?

dav3

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

If all those tweets she made were homophobic I bet you wouldn't be posting such a trite remark.

What kind of bet are we talking about here?

The Pheasant2

Will I Am Not wrote: »

Please tell me you’re a parody account.

Nope; he's just a moron.

Franz Von Peppercorn

keffiyeh wrote: »

Guilt has never been asked for, it's acknowledgement. But people with a racist snowflake agenda try to reframe it into 'guilt'.

I acknowledge that my Irish ancestors were victims of British imperialism. I forgive all modern British people since they werent there.

I don’t forgive Sarah Jeong for being part of the US empire though. Since she’s alive now.

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Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

I acknowledge that my Irish ancestors were victims of British imperialism. I forgive all modern British people since they werent there.

I don’t forgive Sarah Jeong for being part of the US empire though. Since she’s alive now.

Am, the British security forces were still bombing and shooting innocent Irish people dead in the very recent past.

Outlaw Pete

dav3 wrote: »

What kind of bet are we talking about here?

This one.

keffiyeh

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Acknowledgement of what exactly?

Are ye havin a laff?

Franz Von Peppercorn

DONTMATTER wrote: »

Am, the British security forces were still bombing and shooting innocent Irish people dead in the very recent past.

Well not in the republic. I’m just reacting to the “we whites should acknowledge our guilt” utter ****. News: whites have lots of different and diverse histories.

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Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Well not in the republic. I’m just reacting to the “we whites should acknowledge our guilt” utter ****. News: whites gave lots of different and diverse histories.

I'm just correcting your error. Many British people were there while Irish people were murdered by their forces, this included both north and south.

Franz Von Peppercorn

keffiyeh wrote: »

Are ye havin a laff?

No. Do go on.

Sweetemotion

keffiyeh wrote: »

Are ye havin a laff?

No. Explain it to me, what this acknowledgement is? That I should acknowledge.

givyjoe

keffiyeh wrote: »

Did NYT fire Roseanne? No. Different companies different standards, seems very obvious.

Oh dear.. are you not aware of the NYT sacking staff for racist tweets previously? But letting this one go?

Ulysses Gaze

keffiyeh wrote: »

Are ye havin a laff?

I guess you'd be as vocally in favour of all Muslims acknowledging the Mughal slaughter of millions of hindus in India, the Armenian genocide and the sacking of Europe by the Ottomans as well.

Just for consistency like.

Venom

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Well not in the republic. I’m just reacting to the “we whites should acknowledge our guilt” utter ****. News: whites have lots of different and diverse histories.

Hate to break it to you but white people are not allowed to be considered different or diverse these days.

https://nypost.com/2017/11/17/apples-diversity-chief-lasts-just-six-months/

Denise Young Smith, Apple's vice president of diversity and inclusion, had to step down after stating “There can be 12 white, blue-eyed, blond men in a room and they’re going to be diverse too because they’re going to bring a different life experience and life perspective to the conversation." due to the usual outrage mob going after her.

keffiyeh

Sweetemotion wrote: »

No. Explain it to me, what this acknowledgement is? That I should acknowledge.

When you say 'white guilt' but it's actually 'acknowledgement', subtract the white from guilt, and then figure it out, because it's real obvious.

You know what never mind, messing around with intentionally dense internet trolls with racist snowflake agendas is just boring. The 'acknowledgement' required is what the white race perpetrated against places like the African and American continents. Reframing the argument into just 'british colonists' is extremely intellectually dishonest. Plenty of others have benefitted from it. I can't imagine being such a butthurt baby that maybe acknowledging this would make me whinge online.

Sweetemotion

keffiyeh wrote: »

When you say 'white guilt' but it's actually 'acknowledgement', subtract the white from guilt, and then figure it out, because it's real obvious.

You know what never mind, messing around with intentionally dense internet trolls with racist snowflake agendas is just boring. The 'acknowledgement' required is what the white race perpetrated against places like the African and American continents. Reframing the argument into just 'british colonists' is extremely intellectually dishonest. Plenty of others have benefitted from it. I can't imagine being such a butthurt baby that maybe acknowledging this would make me whinge online.

So what you are saying is?

SnakePlissken

keffiyeh wrote: »

I can't imagine being such a butthurt baby that maybe acknowledging this.

So because a British colonist acted brutally toward an African several centuries ago, an Irish man should feel guilt as he is the same skin tone as said colonist?

Yeah, you're a racist gob****e.

Franz Von Peppercorn

givyjoe wrote: »

Oh dear.. are you not aware of the NYT sacking staff for racist tweets previously? But letting this one go?

They didn’t hire an American (secular) Muslim called Razib Kahn, a scientist and blogger, who had some views that disagreed with orthodoxy on intelligence and genetics.