Decline in number of road offences detected

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 04-08-2018 03:27PM #1

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Try_harder · 04-08-2018 03:31PM

Or they are counting the numbers accurately?

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 04-08-2018 03:32PM

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Isambard · 04-08-2018 03:34PM

i'd be inclined to think there are no fewer offences being committed, they just aren't catching people . Hardly surprising, a Gard is a rarity in my area, you could nearly do as you please in complete safety.

DaveyDave · 04-08-2018 11:03PM

Driving has definitely gotten worse this year compared to last year. They can't detect what they can't see. There's a serious lack of road policing.

Atlantic Dawn · 04-08-2018 11:08PM

I've not seen a radar speed check in a good year plus. Have spotted maybe 2 speed vans in the last 6 months.

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 04-08-2018 11:30PM

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CeilingFly · 04-08-2018 11:37PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I've not seen a radar speed check in a good year plus. Have spotted maybe 2 speed vans in the last 6 months.

You're not driving enough 😁

If you are on the motorways, always have a look back at the down ramp at a junction. - Several are favourite spots for gardai esp M9 jct 4, 7 and 10

deco nate · 04-08-2018 11:37PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I've not seen a radar speed check in a good year plus. Have spotted maybe 2 speed vans in the last 6 months.

They sit on the slip roads joining the motorways, always keep an eye in your left mirror as you pass by.
If you travel down the m7, j15, j16 and j 17 are hotspots. See them all the time on the m8 too(not speed vans, garda sitting with guns and chase you down)

CeilingFly · 04-08-2018 11:49PM

Prisoner 6753 wrote: »

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Checkpoints not as required as before. Anpr can check tax and nct on five cars per second second over 3 lanes.

When checkpoints are set up its multi agency and more for insurance and crime detection.

I drive a lot, certainly motorway driving has improved but still many eejits out there

Comhrá · 05-08-2018 07:51AM

Whatever about the reports, I have definitely noticed a drop-off in mobile usage with drivers.

While I see lots of younger drivers looking down at their phones while stopped at traffic lights, I've noticed less people holding the phone to their ear while actually driving. Maybe people are adapting a little bit?

05-08-2018 07:59AM

I drove Cork-Dublin on Friday and return yesterday, during a bank holiday "blitz" and saw one Garda speed van in entire trip.

Of course the really dangerous tail-gating, cutting off, undertaking, driving far slower than other motorway traffic, and driving in overtaking lane all occurring as normal. But these are never policed because we can't spare a single unmarked traffic garda car to patrol the motorway.
Considering we all see these activities every time we're on the motorway, there is no excuse for this. I mean from a funding aspect and the RSA's hardon for speed only, and not a shot at traffic cops as they'd only too happily be able to stamp out the real causes of motorway accidents

vandriver · 05-08-2018 08:01AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I drove Cork-Dublin on Friday and return yesterday, during a bank holiday "blitz" and saw one Garda speed van in entire trip.

Of course the really dangerous tail-gating, cutting off, undertaking, driving far slower than other motorway traffic, and driving in overtaking lane all occurring as normal. But these are never policed because we can't spare a single unmarked traffic garda car to patrol the motorway.
Considering we all see these activities every time we're on the motorway, there is no excuse for this. I mean from a funding aspect and the RSA's hardon for speed only

I went through 4 yesterday in Dublin.(driving a taxi )

Avatar MIA · 05-08-2018 08:05AM

Increased Bluetooth availability helps explains phone to ear drop off.

But from my perspective and I'm driving a lot more on the m7 in the last year and there's far more Garda/speed van presence. You see a lot less people driving silly speeds (myself included).

Between 2010 and 2014 I drove the Dublin/Limerick route at least once a week and could count on one hand the amount of times I saw a guard or van.

Now it's at least once or even twice you'll see them on the same journey. Plus, Friday I saw an Opel insignia pulled over by a unmarked car (blue lights on) on the M8.

I've also seen an increase in non motor way roads, but not as much.

Frankly I do think the amount of resources spent on such safe roads as motorways as sub optimum for safety, but good for detection statistics and revenue.

I'm not surprised there's a drop off in detection as motorway drivers realise they are targets.

floatwinner · 05-08-2018 08:06AM

Comhra wrote: »

Whatever about the reports, I have definitely noticed a drop-off in mobile usage with drivers.

While I see lots of younger drivers looking down at their phones while stopped at traffic lights, I've noticed less people holding the phone to their ear while actually driving. Maybe people are adapting a little bit?

I can definitely say they are not adapting. Phone use while driving is worse than ever.

Kaiser84 · 05-08-2018 08:08AM

I'm driving 16 years and have only ever come across a single Garda checkpoint.

They are nowhere to be seen.

05-08-2018 08:19AM

vandriver wrote: »

I went through 4 yesterday in Dublin.(driving a taxi )

Apologies, I'm referring more to the M/N7.

Avatar MIA · 05-08-2018 08:29AM

Kaiser84 wrote: »

I'm driving 16 years and have only ever come across a single Garda checkpoint.

They are nowhere to be seen.

Www.specsavers.ie might be an idea?

where are you based, roughly. I know the guards wouldn't ask you that, but you never get to see them.

Avatar MIA · 05-08-2018 08:32AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Apologies, I'm referring more to the M/N7.

Well Garda, we'll not be falling for that, shur, ye've the roads ruined &#55357;&#56833;

vandriver · 05-08-2018 08:36AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Apologies, I'm referring more to the M/N7.

Probably a better use of resources catching speeders in a built up area like Dublin.

Isambard · 05-08-2018 08:46AM

i love the way RTE reported it as if it's a positive.

05-08-2018 08:59AM

vandriver wrote: »

Probably a better use of resources catching speeders in a built up area like Dublin.

Agreed but my point is the lack of extra resources to manage the motorway also

05-08-2018 09:47AM

Comhra wrote: »

Whatever about the reports, I have definitely noticed a drop-off in mobile usage with drivers.

While I see lots of younger drivers looking down at their phones while stopped at traffic lights, I've noticed less people holding the phone to their ear while actually driving. Maybe people are adapting a little bit?

I have to disagree - mobile phone abuse is endemic here. Last year's survey put us as second worst in Europe;

https://www.rte.ie/lifestyle/motors/2017/0725/892841-irish-drivers-use-of-mobiles-and-texting-while-driving-soars/

Just look around you on the road for the number of drivers with the phone held to the ear, or held up to the mouth for so-called hands-free calling, or held at/beside/under the wheel for a bit of WhatsApping or Snapchatting while driving. Young/old, male/female, black/white everyone. It is endemic and is almost certainly costing lives.

In the UK, phone use has been directly linked to a number of road deaths. I suspect that Gardai aren't as diligent for checking back the usage history as a routine part of investigations. They are definitely reluctant to progress complaints from others, even when clear video evidence is available.

They also aren't immune to a bit of phone abuse themselves. I passed a Garda mini-bus style van in traffic recently, and both driver and front-seat Garda passenger had their phones held up in front. "He's looking for an address" was the good reason apparently.

V8 Interceptor · 05-08-2018 11:35AM

deco nate wrote: »

They sit on the slip roads joining the motorways, always keep an eye in your left mirror as you pass by.
If you travel down the m7, j15, j16 and j 17 are hotspots. See them all the time on the m8 too(not speed vans, garda sitting with guns and chase you down)

Not that I'm encouraging it but out of interest what parts of the Motorway network could you drive her on a bit (say around a tonne) without getting nabbed? There's a stretch of the Galway road this side of Athlone that always seemed deserted whenever I drove it. Its very "open" Country and doing the tonne doesn't seem like you're going that fast.

RacoonQueen · 05-08-2018 11:40AM

Comhra wrote: »

Whatever about the reports, I have definitely noticed a drop-off in mobile usage with drivers.

While I see lots of younger drivers looking down at their phones while stopped at traffic lights, I've noticed less people holding the phone to their ear while actually driving. Maybe people are adapting a little bit?

Adapting? It's been about 12 years since mobile phone usage rules came in!

V8 Interceptor · 05-08-2018 11:41AM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

. I passed a Garda mini-bus style van in traffic recently, and both driver and front-seat Garda passenger had their phones held up in front. "He's looking for an address" was the good reason apparently.

You pointed it out to him?

05-08-2018 11:46AM

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

You pointed it out to him?

Of course - would you NOT have pointed it out to him?

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 05-08-2018 12:20PM

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V8 Interceptor · 05-08-2018 12:26PM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Of course - would you NOT have pointed it out to him?

No!

ayux4rj6zql2ph · 05-08-2018 12:27PM

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05-08-2018 12:30PM

Prisoner 6753 wrote: »

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As I understand it, they are exempt from traffic laws 'where necessary for the performance of their duties'. Do you think it's a good idea for a Garda driver to be using his phone in traffic, when he has another Garda sitting beside him?

Decline in number of road offences detected

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