Police shoot disabled man; Sweden

Graces7 · 04-08-2018 07:03AM #1

https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2018/0803/982953-stockholm-sweden-shooting/

the_syco · 04-08-2018 07:10AM

Man with walking around with a gun at 4am shot by police.

Graces7 · 04-08-2018 07:14AM

the_syco wrote: »

Man with walking around with a gun at 4am shot by police.

there was no gun..not even a realistic replica... do the police not have eyes? Telescopic sights? Poor kid. Not the first time in Sweden .

suicide_circus · 04-08-2018 07:23AM

hard to tell the difference between a real gun and a toy gun at 4am in fairness

suicide_circus · 04-08-2018 07:24AM

Graces7 wrote: »

there was no gun..not even a realistic replica... do the police not have eyes? Telescopic sights? Poor kid. Not the first time in Sweden .

of all the problems facing Sweden, the police shooting people with Downs Syndrome is hardly the most prevalent

Welruc · 04-08-2018 07:35AM

Graces7 wrote: »

there was no gun..not even a realistic replica... do the police not have eyes? Telescopic sights? Poor kid. Not the first time in Sweden .

Was there a pic of the toy posted somewhere?

the_syco · 04-08-2018 07:39AM

Graces7 wrote: »

there was no gun..not even a realistic replica... do the police not have eyes? Telescopic sights? Poor kid. Not the first time in Sweden .

https://www.dailysabah.com/europe/2018/08/03/swedish-police-fatally-shoot-disabled-man-carrying-toy-gun

A later statement said the man was believed to be carrying a replica gun and had been reported missing by family members about an hour after the shooting.

This could be called a toy gun; https://www.justbbguns.ie/product/ha118-spring-bb-pistol/ as it's not a "real" gun.

Graces7 · 04-08-2018 07:42AM

the_syco wrote: »

https://www.dailysabah.com/europe/2018/08/03/swedish-police-fatally-shoot-disabled-man-carrying-toy-gun

This could be called a toy gun; https://www.justbbguns.ie/product/ha118-spring-bb-pistol/ as it's not a "real" gun.

That is not the image of any gun he was carrying.

Graces7 · 04-08-2018 07:50AM

Requiescat in pace, little man. And may Light eternal shine on thee and comfort your mother and all who knew and loved you.

Such a sweet face on him

I have asked that this thread please be deleted

Blessings and thanks, mods

04-08-2018 07:55AM

Graces7 wrote: »

That is not the image of any gun he was carrying.

How do you know? You saw the gun he was carrying?
It's a terrible incident & I feel for his family & the police that shot him.

JMNolan · 04-08-2018 07:56AM

Graces7 wrote: »

Requiescat in pace, little man. And may Light eternal shine on thee and comfort your mother and all who knew and loved you.

Such a sweet face on him

I have asked that this thread please be deleted

Blessings and thanks, mods

Why? This isn't the first time a person with a disability has been killed in error by police and it highlights how trigger happy police, why would you want that covered up?

Welruc · 04-08-2018 07:57AM

Graces7 wrote: »

Requiescat in pace, little man. And may Light eternal shine on thee and comfort your mother and all who knew and loved you.

Such a sweet face on him

I have asked that this thread please be deleted

Blessings and thanks, mods

Why have the thread deleated? Is it because you expected everyone to jump on and start bashing the police?

I feel sorry for the guy who died and his family but i also feel sorry for the police who shot him.

Im pretty sure the decision to shoot was not taken lightly and they would genuinely have believed the gun was real and they were facing a genuine threat.

Graces7 · 04-08-2018 08:05AM

JMNolan wrote: »

Why? This isn't the first time a person with a disability has been killed in error by police and it highlights how trigger happy police, why would you want that covered up?

now you have posted i see hope.. thank you

nb why not use tazers?

Graces7 · 04-08-2018 08:06AM

Welruc wrote: »

Why have the thread deleated? Is it because you expected everyone to jump on and start bashing the police?

I feel sorry for the guy who died and his family but i also feel sorry for the police who shot him.

Im pretty sure the decision to shoot was not taken lightly and they would genuinely have believed the gun was real and they were facing a genuine threat.

No i expected more humanity and yes, criticicism of trigger happy cops.

Pretzeluck · 04-08-2018 08:11AM

Graces7 wrote: »

No i expected more humanity and yes, criticicism of trigger happy cops.

Oh so it's ok in any other case but when cops shoot an unarmed person, quick delete the thread and censor it. Have you heard a term free speech? I suggest you delete your post.

TheBoyConor · 04-08-2018 08:17AM

Graces why on earth would you want this thread deleted?

Usual Irish attitude of when something we don't like or can't handle happens the first instinct is to censor it, cover it up, smother it and sweep it under the carpet and pretend it didn't happen.

Child abuse, domestic violence, rape, pedophilia etc and now police shootings.

You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to brush this one under the rug.

McMurphy · 04-08-2018 08:20AM

4am.

Man with gun in city centre.

Police shoot man.

Transpires man has condition - gun was fake.

Feel sorry for him, but what are the cops meant to do?

baldbear · 04-08-2018 08:20AM

The moral of the story is don't be giving toy machine guns to people with down syndrome who have a history of running out of the family home.

I feel bad for the cops. It was really dark they saw was a man with a gun & of course thought the worst.

baldbear · 04-08-2018 08:20AM

The moral of the story is don't be giving toy machine guns to people with down syndrome who have a history of running out of the family home.

I feel bad for the cops. It was really dark they saw was a man with a gun & of course thought the worst.

The parents are the ones who should be blamed here for not securing there house so the poor chap can't leave on his own.

Fr_Dougal · 04-08-2018 08:22AM

Graces7 wrote: »

now you have posted i see hope.. thank you

nb why not use tazers?

Tasers against someone who they believed had a gun? Nope.

TG1 · 04-08-2018 08:22AM

Graces7 wrote: »

No i expected more humanity and yes, criticicism of trigger happy cops.

I think sometimes people forget that police in any country are just people, forced to make split second decisions every day. They disregard their own safety and put themselves in dangerous situations so the rest of us don't have to. Yes sometimes they make mistakes, and I'm sure there is the odd person who is not a right psychological fit for for a job like that that gets through the screening procedures.

But I highly doubt the unfortunate police officers involved in the above mentioned incident are delighted with what they've done.

This is probably going to affect them for the rest of their lives. A bit of compassion for people going above and beyond on a daily basis when it does go wrong is not a bad thing.

Yes, its a horrible horrible thing to have happened, and yes that poor man's family have suffered such a huge loss, and I feel for them I think we should have a bit of compassion for all involved, and not jump straight to the "trigger happy" comment before any investigation has been done. that in my view is what humanity is about.

Bob Harris · 04-08-2018 08:24AM

Graces7 wrote: »

now you have posted i see hope.. thank you

nb why not use tazers?

A tazer is effective from about 12-15 feet. A gun somewhat more than that. Be like bringing a knife to a gunfight.

ConnyMcDavid · 04-08-2018 08:25AM

Bob Harris wrote: »

A tazer is effective from about 12-15 feet. A gun somewhat more than that. Be like bringing a knife to a gunfight.

I would imagine being hit by the tazer could cause a reflex and the trigger of the gun being pulled.

Pretzeluck · 04-08-2018 08:27AM

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

4am.

Man with gun in city centre.

Police shoot man.

Transpires man has condition - gun was fake.

Feel sorry for him, but what are the cops meant to do?

Agreed, executing him was the right choice. They had no other options. They couldn't have done anything else, we just need to accept that.

friendlyfun · 04-08-2018 08:28AM

Graces7 wrote: »

there was no gun..not even a realistic replica... do the police not have eyes? Telescopic sights? Poor kid. Not the first time in Sweden .

Why are people blaming the police for this? It can difficult to decipher between a real gun and fake gun from a far. If someone was with him maybe they would have been able to indicate to police that it was dud gun.

Bob Harris · 04-08-2018 08:29AM

ConnyMcDavid wrote: »

I would imagine being hit by the tazer could cause a reflex and the trigger of the gun being pulled.

I suppose you could imagine that alright....

Bob Harris · 04-08-2018 08:30AM

Graces7 wrote: »

Requiescat in pace, little man. And may Light eternal shine on thee and comfort your mother and all who knew and loved you.

Such a sweet face on him

I have asked that this thread please be deleted

Blessings and thanks, mods

Wait a minute, you started it!

Pretzeluck · 04-08-2018 08:30AM

friendlyfun wrote: »

Why are people blaming the police for this? It can difficult to decipher between a real gun and fake gun from a far. If someone was with him maybe they would have been able to indicate to police that it was dud gun.

Agreed, the police did the right thing obviously. Everyone is now safer. 1 innocent life is acceptable if 100 guilty ones are executed.

RobbingBandit · 04-08-2018 08:31AM

Me luv after hours all the present goings on with none of the relevant context. Ah tea-party

jacksie66 · 04-08-2018 08:39AM

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Iwouldinmesack · 04-08-2018 08:45AM

How were the the police expected to know that the guy had those disabilities when they were arriving to the scene of reports of a guy with a gun at 4 in the morning? I think its fully justified. Why take a chance. Shoot first, ask questions later.

Police shoot disabled man; Sweden

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