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AI Senior Hurling- Liam McCarthy Cup 2018

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭I says


    Christ, that was tense! Galway neighbour on one side and Clare neighbour on the other. I was leaning towards Galway because I don't like the Clare neighbour!
    We're all in Limerick. Pretty sure Cork will kick our arse tomorrow.

    I’d love to see limerick do it if we’re not in the final to many wides for us in normal time although Clare had five in first period of extra time
    And can I just say again Owens is a cabbage of a ref today’s performance really put the top hat on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,839 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Sport shouldn’t be judged on the level of entertainment it provides..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    I says wrote: »
    I’d love to see limerick do it if we’re not in the final to many wides for us in normal time although Clare had five in first period of extra time
    And can I just say again Owens is a cabbage of a ref today’s performance really put the top hat on it.

    yep absolute clown. he seemed to anger both fans. wrecked after it. galway had the ball on half way line was about to strike it blew up. then huge amount of time in second half extra time was only 3 minutes injury time i was like wtf? the wind was very strange went from very strong and offputting in first half so many galway wides this was a part of that.
    in second half it dropped a lot and clare took points
    galway had so many wides they cant have as many again. injuries would be main concern. poor form coming on 5 minutes after half time met a good few clare fans said it was poor also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Powerhouse wrote: »
    Actually I was hoping a free-taking contest was going to happen as it would cause proper reflection on the hurling championship format instead of having everyone going around blathering about "humdingers", "crackers", and "epics".

    But I fail to see your objection to a replay considering the point of that too is to produce a winner. There is nothing about a fixture which potentially begets a replay if the scores are level at the end which prevents a winner emerging. That is guaranteed to happen. About 27% of English premier league soccer games end in draws (albeit catered for in the points system) and it's an incredibly popular sporting product so I am not sure that you view that the point of a game is to have winner really stands up.

    Soccer has a draw where the champion is a result of their performance over a period of time.

    In a world cup they are decided by penalties.

    Wouldn't it add an extra and different layer of tension seeing player walk up to a ball to strike a free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Thought both teams played a good hard physical game to be honest. Im struggling to see where they were dirty. They were up against a physical powerhouse

    Yep just back, great game enjoyed it completely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭puzl


    If there's a draw tomorrow we're rigthly ****ed. Where would a limerick cork replay fit on the calendar? Thurles on Saturday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,561 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    puzl wrote: »
    If there's a draw tomorrow we're rigthly ****ed. Where would a limerick cork replay fit on the calendar? Thurles on Saturday?

    Bank holiday Monday August 6th maybe?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭Noveight


    Cracking game of hurling today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    puzl wrote: »
    If there's a draw tomorrow we're rigthly ****ed. Where would a limerick cork replay fit on the calendar? Thurles on Saturday?

    well Limerick did play a championship game some years back on a Thursday night (I kid you not) in Thurles V Offaly. Ciaran Carey's last game if I remember correctly.
    Don't think it has ever happened before that on since
    Definitely would never happen to the 'bigger counties'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Powerhouse wrote: »
    I made a point about the repugnance of hurling supporters' attitude to other sports generally. The cannot seem to enjoy their sport without talking bolloxology about "the Gods" and all that nonsense. That is insecurity. They could feel superior and shut up about it. That's all I said. With respect I couldn't care less about where your life story fits into things.

    It's called hurling snobbery


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭FrKurtFahrt


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    It's called hurling snobbery

    Sweet Jesus! It's a hurling thread, and after a massive game which was brilliant on a few levels. Physicality, fitness, tension, pride and skill. If hurling people want to wallow in the reflected pleasure of a great occasion, why get bitchy about it?? It was a wonderful occasion, and hurling won.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    What attendance was at today’s game boys and girls?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭spurshero


    irishfeen wrote: »
    What attendance was at today’s game boys and girls?

    54700 I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,067 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    spurshero wrote: »
    54700 I think

    Decent crowd!, hopefully tomorrow Cork and Limerick rattle 70k+


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Donnielighto


    Hate refereeing in the gaa, different reasons though. Though the ref today was awful. He gave Clare the break at 1-6 with their second point and the next two were a bit off, one should have gone to Hawkeye, not 100% on the last. Also clearly playing for a draw at the end. Why bother having extra time if the ref is actively trying for a replay. It just brings down the integrity of the competition. That's rife.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Sweet Jesus! It's a hurling thread, and after a massive game which was brilliant on a few levels. Physicality, fitness, tension, pride and skill. If hurling people want to wallow in the reflected pleasure of a great occasion, why get bitchy about it?? It was a wonderful occasion, and hurling won.

    Actually it is quite the opposite!

    It's more to the fact that hurling fans who don't like football use an entertaining game to make a bitchy not so subtle comment about football immediately in the aftermath of the game, some literally just logging on to the thread to make that comment!

    As people say, they are two different sports, ffs one has a stick, a helmet and ball a tiny fraction of the size of the other sport's ball!

    Each has their merits!

    The spectacle of hurling is much more quick paced as the equipment used lends itself to a more gung ho approach. Hence a higher number of scores. People often confuse this fast paced game to better sport, whatever that means to them. People love scores, scores and more scores! A 4-3 thriller between to teams in soccer is confused as a greater more memorable game than a 1-1 draw merely because there were more "scores" . The respective teams' defences rarely enter the equation when reviewing these games, the chat is normally about the goals and attacking nature.

    I didn't see anyone discussing the mistakes in both Galway and Clare's midfield and defences at various times today. And all the wides and wasteful punts up the park are not being mentioned by those slagging of football.

    Also tight games, where teams are swapping point for point like today are exciting. Some of the final rounds of the 2017 football Championship had similar point swapping theme and some of the qualifiers were thrilling, the Mayo matches during the qualifiers were great viewing. There have been some awful matches for the audience this year in football so this year football has (deservedly) got a bit of critical punditry but metaphorically taking out your hurl after 90 minutes today and using it as a stick to beat football with it is the aspect of bitchiness and petty posting that you should be taking head of.

    Twenty two wides by an All Ireland winning team shows that the skill level isn't exactly perfect either. Is that not a facet of the game that should be considered when exclaiming it's merits as the "best sport", that the best players are imperious in their skills at that sport? As was seen in some of Cork's defending and Galways lack of composure to control a game they led by 10 points (?) at one stage!

    If I watch a great GAA match, I don't log onto the thread to point out its a better sport than bowls.



    As you pointed out, it is a hurling thread so why log on merely to insult a sport you don't associate with after one of the best games in the last few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭mattser


    If hurling is so wonderful why do you feel the need to denigrate something else when trying to praise it.

    Behaviour like that is generally considered to be a sure sign of insecurity

    Thanks for the diagnosis Dr. Niles. I would invite you to a discussion if you can show your credentials.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Hate refereeing in the gaa, different reasons though. Though the ref today was awful. He gave Clare the break at 1-6 with their second point and the next two were a bit off, one should have gone to Hawkeye, not 100% on the last. Also clearly playing for a draw at the end. Why bother having extra time if the ref is actively trying for a replay. It just brings down the integrity of the competition. That's rife.

    You do realise that Hawkeye automatically checks all points even if they haven't been referred?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,833 ✭✭✭spurshero


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Decent crowd!, hopefully tomorrow Cork and Limerick rattle 70k+

    Definitely I think . Over 60000 tickets already sold . Be near sellout I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Hawkeye seems a bit dodgy to me. One of Joes looked to be right over and coincidentally it went through the post. Must have been 4 that went directly through the post today when in game you would rarely see a shot hit a post.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Donnielighto


    blackcard wrote: »
    You do realise that Hawkeye automatically checks all points even if they haven't been referred?

    Main point is that he didn't refer. He was trying to level it out, presumably due to Galway being so dominant over a shook Clare team but he's there to apply rules fairly, nothing else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Nothing at all wrong with the refereeing at all today. Entitled to use his discretion as regards added time and he didn’t get it wrong imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭FrKurtFahrt


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    Hawkeye seems a bit dodgy to me. One of Joes looked to be right over and coincidentally it went through the post. Must have been 4 that went directly through the post today when in game you would rarely see a shot hit a post.

    What annoyed me about the employment of Hawkeye today was that 3 of the shots were hit from at least 60 yards out - one from a free. Surely any umpire could have maneuvered himself into a decent position (given the time the ball was in the air) to judge whether it was a score or not. Particularly that free - move behind the nets and look directly up the field at the dead ball. It was (in my opinion) a cop out, again and again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,745 ✭✭✭threeball


    What annoyed me about the employment of Hawkeye today was that 3 of the shots were hit from at least 60 yards out - one from a free. Surely any umpire could have maneuvered himself into a decent position (given the time the ball was in the air) to judge whether it was a score or not. Particularly that free - move behind the nets and look directly up the field at the dead ball. It was (in my opinion) a cop out, again and again.

    That wasn't a cop out. No way he could be sure at those margins so did the right thing and went to Hawkeye. That's what it's there for. They were vindicated on 4 occassions. What more do you want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Main point is that he didn't refer. He was trying to level it out, presumably due to Galway being so dominant over a shook Clare team but he's there to apply rules fairly, nothing else.

    So to get this straight, Clare scored a point that wasn’t which, according to the assumed protocol, would be passed down to the ref who would then refer it to Hawkeye. Except, in this instance, Owens - out of sympathy to slow starting and shell shocked Clare - decided not to do so, presumably certain that the shot was indeed wide. Likely story I have to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭FrKurtFahrt


    threeball wrote: »
    That wasn't a cop out. No way he could be sure at those margins so did the right thing and went to Hawkeye. That's what it's there for. They were vindicated on 4 occassions. What more do you want.

    What I want is for an umpire to make a simple decision on a shot that's been hit from distance! Did I not make that clear?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Was it the sun that was the issue? That was what was speculated on tv anyway and it would certainly be the time of evening where you would have a low sun.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 10,093 Mod ✭✭✭✭marco_polo


    threeball wrote: »
    That wasn't a cop out. No way he could be sure at those margins so did the right thing and went to Hawkeye. That's what it's there for. They were vindicated on 4 occassions. What more do you want.

    What I want is for an umpire to make a simple decision on a shot that's been hit from distance! Did I not make that clear?

    In general or just when you don't like the result?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 899 ✭✭✭FrKurtFahrt


    marco_polo wrote: »
    In general or just when you don't like the result?

    I see. you think I made the comment out of some bitterness? Wrong. It was a genuine opinion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,745 ✭✭✭threeball


    What I want is for an umpire to make a simple decision on a shot that's been hit from distance! Did I not make that clear?

    So you can tell the exact trajectory of a 75mm object moving over 100km an hour down to a few cms without fail can you.


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