essential oils craze

Hitman3000 · 25-07-2018 07:39PM

pleas advice wrote:

3 in One, now theres an essential oil...

So's KY jelly.

mvl · 25-07-2018 08:27PM

Hitman3000 wrote: »

So's KY jelly.

not natural enough - just have a look at the ingredients

Hitman3000 · 25-07-2018 08:29PM

mvl wrote:

not natural enough - just have a look at the ingredients

Does the job.ðŸ˜‰

LirW · 25-07-2018 08:37PM

Ah don't get me started on mlm.

There's this Austrian company selling natural and vegan cosmetics and body care and they sell via mlm because their products are so fresh, they aren't allowed to sell it in conventional shops, so they claim. Now it seems that half the female population of the country works for them as independent partner and every single one is a massive pain in the ar5e. One tried it on me, I told her to f off.
Now apparently the products are decent but the whole company is more like a cult and borderline pyramid but a lot more hippy.
They are planning a big European expansion now, so be aware of you ever hear of this company.

I just don't understand that anyone thinks of it as a professional way of selling stuff but it seems to work pretty well.

Capt'n Midnight · 25-07-2018 09:19PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

I find petrol and diesel to be essential oils.

Heavy Fuel Oil is the stuff that powers the largest ships.

It's the glup that's left over after you put crude oil through a refinery. If it was any thicker you could quite literally use it for tarmac.

But it's rich in aromatics. Up to 60%.

Carry · 25-07-2018 10:20PM

seamus wrote: »

Aromatherapy when used as "alternative medicine" is a scam and not at all reputable.

All of these things are just different ways of sitting and relaxing for half an hour, taking your mind off things that need to be done; there's no magic formula or special trick in them.

Whatever your thing is; be it smelly rooms, hot rooms, having someone stick hot rocks on your spine, sitting reading a book, going for a walk; the time spent escaping briefly into your own head does you good. Just because one person enjoys sitting in a smelly room, doesn't mean it'll be any good for someone else.

This differs from actual medicine in that actual medicine will be effective on the vast majority of people in achieving a goal.

You are wrong here.
Aromatherapy isn't "alternative medicine" at all. It's used as a complimentary remedy.

The human olfactory sense is very sophisticated and closely connected to the vegetative nerve system that regulates vital functions of the body.

Scents are proven (by proper scientists, you might want to google it) to influence the vegetative nerve system, be it positively or negatively.

Lavender for example calms down, jasmine has a postive effect as an "anti-depressant", citrus scents are refreshing and/or uplifting etc.

It doesn't really matter if the scents are natural or artificial, it's certain molecules that trigger the olfactory sense.

I'm too tired to explain all the scientific chemical backgrounds right now. I'm sure you will find it out.
I just want to advice not being edgy by dismissing everything that doesn't fit into a packet of paracetamol.

Day Lewin · 25-07-2018 10:29PM

Some of those oils are therapeutically active: some are psycho-active, for instance - shouldn't be used with alcohol, etc.
Some have simple topical action: all this is well known.
Not really medicine, but useful (- and sometimes better dispensed by a qualified person)

But pyramid selling is scammy and wild claims for oils are scammy too.

Ipso · 25-07-2018 10:39PM

Carry wrote: »

You are wrong here.
Aromatherapy isn't "alternative medicine" at all. It's used as a complimentary remedy.

The human olfactory sense is very sophisticated and closely connected to the vegetative nerve system that regulates vital functions of the body.

Scents are proven (by proper scientists, you might want to google it) to influence the vegetative nerve system, be it positively or negatively.

Lavender for example calms down, jasmine has a postive effect as an "anti-depressant", citrus scents are refreshing and/or uplifting etc.

It doesn't really matter if the scents are natural or artificial, it's certain molecules that trigger the olfactory sense.

I'm too tired to explain all the scientific chemical backgrounds right now. I'm sure you will find it out.
I just want to advice not being edgy by dismissing everything that doesn't fit into a packet of paracetamol.

What does complimentary mean?
It seems like something is used with medicine, the medicine works and the complimentary stuff piggy backs for the credit.

mvl · 25-07-2018 10:48PM

was not thinking ppl are dismissive of aromatherapy in general from what was said. I started this thread about a certain propaganda I have noticed recently with one specific brand in mind. didn't know too many things about mlms' when i did.

similar here: https://www.attn.com/stories/14568/what-you-need-know-about-essential-oils

But a search of social media platforms like Instagram, Twitter, Pinterest, and Facebook turns up dozens of recent examples of doTERRA and other essential oil distributors promoting these products as treatment options for various medical conditions — from breast cancer to melanoma to Lyme disease — without including an FDA disclosure.

Would you not agree that it is extremely concerning if just anyone in Ireland (any middle class mom with no proper degree/qualification that joins this group) is allowed to be an advocate, and starts promoting daily oiling on social media to their family and friends, kids including, for medical purposes as mentioned in article above?

Balanadan · 25-07-2018 10:52PM

Is it worth re-investing profits from Banners Brokers into this?

Hitman3000 · 25-07-2018 10:53PM

mvl wrote:

Would you not agree that it is extremely concerning if just anyone in Ireland (any middle class mom with no proper degree/qualification that joins this group) is allowed to be an advocate, and starts promoting daily oiling on social media to their family and friends, kids including, for medical purposes as mentioned in article above?

People will try any and say any bull**** to sell stuff. Some of the claims are harmless and others are dangerous. You can't stop people being idiots, either in the selling or buying of this essential oil c**p. It's a MLM scheme which should be enough of an alarm bell for the majority of people.

CeilingFly · 25-07-2018 10:55PM

The olfactory system is extremely intricate and reacts to fragrance and essential oils on a personal level.

However essential oils are available in many stores and most are relatively cheap and there's no need whatsoever for any pyramid selling rubbish

GingerLily · 25-07-2018 11:04PM

I have some at home. Boots brand or something - tea tree is good for blemishes, I use lavender on fresh pillow cases sometimes and eucalyptus is good for air ways.

I don't understand how anyone's made a MLM thing from this though - they're extremely easy to get and it's not as if quality is as much of an issue?

People are sheep I suppose.... I hate MLM and if any friend of mine started this sh*t they'd be blocked and ignored until they coped on.

Sal Butamol · 25-07-2018 11:57PM

One thing is for certain - women are absolute suckers for this ****, same with all that alternative health stuff and homeopathy, absolute gullible suckers

gormdubhgorm · 26-07-2018 12:09AM

bluewolf wrote: »

I didn't know there was a craze... is this another mlm?
I mean tea tree is antiseptic and eucalyptus is basically what goes into vicks but i wouldn't go mad about them

I didn't either sure haven't they been around for years?

BuboBubo · 26-07-2018 12:15AM

Sal Butamol wrote: »

One thing is for certain - women are absolute suckers for this ****, same with all that alternative health stuff and homeopathy, absolute gullible suckers

Aaahh tar us all with the one brush there, good man!

But I'll admit it's usually women (on maternity leave or stay at home Mammys) who start selling this stuff to make a few bob. Anyone I know who started an MLM business lost friends (from Facebook and real life) made one sale from a few people but very little repeat sales. Friends may buy once "to be nice" but once only.

I like essential oils myself, use lavender in the bath, tea tree on spots, frankensence in a burner etc, but buy in Holland and Barrett. I don't believe they have miracle healing powers - but they have a use sometimes, for pleasure rather than medicinal purposes.

Things like essential oils, Aloe Vera, and scented candles can be bought much cheaper in shops. MLM means overpriced scam.

LETHAL LADY · 26-07-2018 12:58AM

I used to love my scented candles, oil burners, josticks, plugin difussers etc for around my home. Having two asthmatic children soon put paid to that. Try burning anything scented in any room in a house with a young child with severe asthma and you'll see what I mean. Before my first child would even start wheezing his eyes would be watering from the oils. Lesson learned fast. Vicks and eucalyptus are the only smells they could tolerate, but who the feck wants a home that smell of Vicks?

I also used to give edible oils, specially designed for dogs, to my two dogs in their food (both deceased from old age and not oils), which were meant to calm them and prevent them missing me when I'd gone to work. I did notice them a bit sleepier in the first day or two, but that's about it really.

I wouldn't dismiss all of the benefits, just wouldn't be dependent or be sucked in to buying stuff as a method to cure all ills.

MarkY91 · 26-07-2018 01:21AM

I have a diffuser and use it the odd time in my bedroom

I don't care about not believe in any crap about healing. I use it because the oils Smell great and it looks ****ing cool when in use.

4068ac1elhodqr · 26-07-2018 01:39AM

Young dudes in particular should not mess around with those naff odours.

Chemicals in lavender and tea tree oil appear to be 'hormone disruptors' (re:prepubertal gynecomastia).
https://www.endocrine.org/news-room/2018/chemicals-in-lavender-and-tea-tree-oil-appear-to-be-hormone-disruptors

Wash with soap and dab on the old spice, job done.

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