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Would you drink a beer or a glass of wine at dinner and drive home afterwards?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,093 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    The whole point is that Nanny state is taking over our lives, what next, all televisions must be off by 10 PM in case we don't get enough sleep because poor sleep is bad for us ?

    Or No Energy drinks because they might kill you ?

    Where does it stop ?

    To be honest your really caught up in the nanny state if your watching TV.
    It just annoys me these days barr a few programs. It's definitely not reflecting the world I live in. It's not called TV programming for nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,588 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Going by the number of drink/drug drivers frequently arrested on the AGS twitter feed it would seem we do need to be held by the nanny state's hand as these people either don't have any moral compass to know right from wrong or simply just don't give a toss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,791 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Fair enough point but they tell us nothing, there's never stats behind the stats they trot out.
    For example you could be over the drink driving limit but that didn't kill you it was the Punto's crap safety.
    There quick to blame drink driving but never back it up with anything.

    NCAP tells us this tough.
    The current piunto is mainly a zero star car because of how it reactiacted in the safety assist and pedestrian tests.


  • Posts: 21,542 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To be honest your really caught up in the nanny state if your watching TV.
    It just annoys me these days barr a few programs. It's definitely not reflecting the world I live in. It's not called TV programming for nothing.

    I watch extremely little RTE , no TG4 and TV3 is tripe altogether, I don't watch it at all.

    RTE's Radio One is slightly better than their TV programming. But it pains me to pay a TV license for nothing really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,588 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The current Punto has been on sale for 12 years.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,498 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    If I'm at a musical or a gig I might have one pint on arrival and I always ask my passengers if they're comfortable with me having a drink.

    Last time I got the bus home I had to stand from the city center all the way to Lucan and it wasn't even the weekend. I'd rather the comfort of my own car.

    If there was a zero tolerance policy that would be fine but it would only make sense if it was enforced.


  • Posts: 21,542 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Going by the number of drink/drug drivers frequently arrested on the AGS twitter feed it would seem we do need to be held by the nanny state's hand as these people either don't have any moral compass to know right from wrong or simply just don't give a toss.

    Arrested for being over the limit perhaps, being drunk ? perhaps not.

    It's a shame texters are not so easy to catch.

    Over-taking over continuous white lines, or in dangerous locations, also not easy to catch, but a lot of people maybe a wee bit over the limit are a lot easier to catch.

    we never see speed vans in towns and villages where people regularly drive up to 80 Km/h and maybe more and there's a hell of a lot of people who do this but this is ok as someone driving a bit over the limit is the worst vile scum on the planet and needs to be stopped, no have the speed vans where you can easily do 10 Km/h over the limit on a good straight road or on the Motorway where less fatalities occur , it's mainly to generate revenue and the recent changes to the drink driving laws are a publicity stunt ! common sense, gone !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭Peatys


    I truly hope I asked the wrong person, and if so, my apologies, you are a saint.

    Easy to be a saint on here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,588 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Arrested for being over the limit perhaps, being drunk ? perhaps not.

    It's a shame texters are not so easy to catch.

    Over-taking over continuous white lines, or in dangerous locations, also not easy to catch, but a lot of people maybe a wee bit over the limit are a lot easier to catch.

    we never see speed vans in towns and villages where people regularly drive up to 80 Km/h and maybe more and there's a hell of a lot of people who do this but this is ok as someone driving a bit over the limit is the worst vile scum on the planet and needs to be stopped ! common sense, gone !

    Arrested on suspicion of dd and tested properly at the station to confirm it, in most cases. All those offenses need to be enforced too, but that doesn't take from the fact that so do drink driving laws.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,093 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Fair enough point but they tell us nothing, there's never stats behind the stats they trot out.
    For example you could be over the drink driving limit but that didn't kill you it was the Punto's crap safety.
    There quick to blame drink driving but never back it up with anything.

    NCAP tells us this tough.
    The current piunto is mainly a zero star car because of how it reactiacted in the safety assist and pedestrian tests.

    It's a bullcrap system, every car is above average. Compare a focus to an XC90 we know for a fact nobody has been killed in 12years in an XC90 in the UK but it has the same ncap as a focus both 5 stars. So to look at it you could say one is as safe as the other when that's not the reality if your in an accident. Then we load VRT on safest features, I can still remember when Toyota were taking out safety bags to get the rrp down. It's a ridiculous state of affairs. Ford were taking about taking out features the other day to offset a rise in price with new emmision laws.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    I'll have two pints and drive home.

    I don't see any issue with that.

    And before the nanny brigade jump down my throat, I take my time and it would be a minimum 2 hours, hence my reading will always be below the legal limit (yes I do have a gadget that gives an accurate reading)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    I'll have two pints and drive home.

    I don't see any issue with that.

    And before the nanny brigade jump down my throat, I take my time and it would be a minimum 2 hours, hence my reading will always be below the legal limit (yes I do have a gadget that gives an accurate reading)

    I was the same as yourself when I was in the country to be honest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,307 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Same as above, 2 pints after work, catch up on the gossip n home. Don't see a big issue with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭JPCN1


    How many checkpoints have you met going home from golf, I thought they'd be everywhere over the summer haven't seen 1.

    Went through two but neither time bagged. A colleague failed a test on a Sunday morning though. He's donald ducked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    phutyle wrote: »
    This is just a general comment, not directed at all at you (you're only talking about a glass with a meal, so your chances over being over the limit are very low), but coffee doesn't do anything to lower your intoxication or the amount of alcohol detectable in your blood. Sure, you may feel less tired, but that's only a part of the equation (it does nothing for the cognitive impairment that comes with intoxication), and not a factor if you're breathalysed.

    Oh, the coffee exerted to another 15-20 minutes sitting chatting over the cuppa rather than the coffee doing anything on particular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭oceanman


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    I'll have two pints and drive home.

    I don't see any issue with that.

    And before the nanny brigade jump down my throat, I take my time and it would be a minimum 2 hours, hence my reading will always be below the legal limit (yes I do have a gadget that gives an accurate reading)
    the nanny brigade will rip you apart!
    :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭CFlat


    CeilingFly wrote: »
    I'll have two pints and drive home.

    I don't see any issue with that.

    And before the nanny brigade jump down my throat, I take my time and it would be a minimum 2 hours, hence my reading will always be below the legal limit (yes I do have a gadget that gives an accurate reading)

    Completely with you on that.

    If I go out for a meal I'd see no issue having two pints over a two to three hour duration of that meal and driving home.


    I went to a Ball some years ago. Drank 5 pints of lager throughout the night. Full 4 course meal and before we headed home we had what they called a breakfast which was a sausage roll and coffee. This function started at 8.00 and finished about 2.30/3.00. Got into my car after, had my breath tester with me and I was, at the time, .03 on the machine. I think the limit then was .09


    Since then I know the limit has dropped significantly but theres still a lot of bollox-ology and scare mongering going on around drinking and driving and whats safe and whats not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭moby2101


    I’m driving the last 25 years.
    Up to 5 weeks ago I was NEVER bagged.

    5 weeks ago bagged at a checkpoint on the dock road in Limerick @ 730 in the evening.
    Last Saturday I was bagged again @ 1030in the morning at a checkpoint set up on Cecil St Limerick.

    We need to see a hell of a lot more imo.

    It was a bit nerve racking on the Saturday morning, I’d been out for dinner previous night, couple of glasses of wine and 3 pints afterwards and we all travelled home in taxis.
    I’m definitely going to buy a digital breathalyser in the next week or so, driving licences are too precious to be squandered for having a couple of beers the night before


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,005 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    N/a Erdinger is pretty decent.

    Heineken zero is decent enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭CFlat


    _Brian wrote: »
    Heineken zero is decent enough.

    Heineken Zero is quite nice and so is the Becks non alcoholic. Dont like that Erdginer at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,093 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Bit of a stupid question but if you had a few alcohol free pints would you still have any kind of a head on you in the morning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    In new Zealand they have official notices in pubs telling you how much you can drink over how long a period to ensure you are under the legal limit.


  • Posts: 21,542 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CFlat wrote: »

    Since then I know the limit has dropped significantly but theres still a lot of bollox-ology and scare mongering going on around drinking and driving and whats safe and whats not.

    Political Publicity stunts. that's all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭riemann


    Personally I wouldn't sit into the car without a quick pint to calm the nerves, always found driving very stressful. Too many drivers not giving the road their full attention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    Deedsie wrote: »
    Its easy say Nanny state, unfortunately many people cant just have "the one"... they might drive to a pub planning to have 1 but end up having more and then driving home anyway.

    I appreciate the state for trying to reduce the amount of intoxicated drivers we all have to share the road with. Nanny it up all you want, ban them from driving if caught over the limit and name and shame them for it. Only language these people will understand.

    Yes but the limits should count that people who go in for 1 (maybe 2) will be grand and the rest get fleeced


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Bit of a stupid question but if you had a few alcohol free pints would you still have any kind of a head on you in the morning.

    No, no booze to break down = no work for the liver = no hangover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,648 ✭✭✭honeybear


    It’s the morning after I’d be afraid of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,827 ✭✭✭tcawley29


    Deedsie wrote: »
    Is it really that big of an inconvenience?

    Yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240


    To any noticeable extent. Bollocks!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    ED E wrote: »
    No, no booze to break down = no work for the liver = no hangover.

    I could be completely wrong but I had read before in something scientific like a science journal that hangovers have nothing to do with alcohol directly and are caused by dehydration and exhaustion.

    I know a few night ago I stayed up until something ridiculous like 7am playing a pc game and felt exactly like I had a hangover the next morning.


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