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Should 100% mortgages return?

  • 24-07-2018 08:28PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,707 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I think they should. It's unrealistic expecting young working people to raise 30k for a deposit while paying extortionate rent on the private market.

    Maybe even 95%?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Expensive money isn't the answer to the housing shortage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,149 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    It's the only way most people would get a mortgage these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Benteke


    One recession not good enough for you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    It's a huge topic but I don't think 100% mortgages were ever a good idea. When getting our mortgage it was a max of 80% and tied strictly to a multiple of our earnings. In many ways this helped keep price rises under some check.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Squall Leonhart


    90% mortgages are already pretty good. 100% is only asking for trouble all over again.

    Money easily got isn't money valued.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 586 ✭✭✭theboringfox


    No they should never return. Just drives up prices. I'd prefer to see tighter not looser rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,707 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Benteke wrote: »
    One recession not good enough for you?

    When you have couple's out there who would have the means to pay back 2k a month but can't get mortgages because 1500 of that goes on rent. I don't see why a 100% mortgage would be a problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,788 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Not a good idea at all.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    Did i dream it or did they at one point chuck a 100% mortgage plus a brand new Rover car at people ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    It may be the smart and ballsy thing to do.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    rob316 wrote: »
    When you have couple's out there who would have the means to pay back 2k a month but can't get mortgages because 1500 of that goes on rent. I don't see why a 100% mortgage would be a problem.

    Because there arent enough houses. Allowing more people to spend money they risk never being able to pay, or being caught when prices normalise would be bananas. If anything, the % should be reduced not increased when prices are in a bubble.

    Dealing with the supply of houses is the only sane action.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,227 ✭✭✭gifted


    Did i dream it or did they at one point chuck a 100% mortgage plus a brand new Rover car at people ...

    That was just stupidity at its best.....






    Everyone knows Rover were ****e cars lol lol









    I'll get my coat....


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Ariana Obedient Quadrangle


    I think we are doing well with 90% to be honest as much as i would like 100%! prices would go... through the roof :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    gifted wrote: »
    That was just stupidity at its best.....






    Everyone knows Rover were ****e cars lol lol









    I'll get my coat....

    Did anyone take them up on offer .... I remember thinking how absolutely stupid that was .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    No but we need to start building houses yesterday, this time in places where people want to live. Of course this won't happen till the core FF/FG voters are out of negative equity. Cheers for pulling the rope up there lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,913 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    I got a 100% 340,000 mortgage over 35 years in 2006 with my now ex wife.
    In twelve years the principal has decreased by about 80k.
    To be honest its not something I've dwelt on too much over the years, I just concentrate on meeting the repayment and everything that goes with it every month.

    I hope to rent out a couple of rooms in the next few months for as close to the 14,000 limit as possible and put that towards the mortgage as well which will hopefully reduce the term of the loan substantially.

    I don't think it would be a total disaster to reintroduce the product under very strict criteria and I certainly wouldn't discourage anyone from availing of one if they met the terms and conditions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,118 ✭✭✭Lackey


    100% mortgage but stick to the wages=borrowing formula for deciding loan amount could work


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Short memories it seems!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Definitely not. We need to stick to our rules. If they ever change the rules they should adjust it by no more 1 or 2 percent per year.

    If they changed to 100 percent mortgages all at once the only thing that would happen is house prices would jump yet again. You still have a house shortage. Letting people borrow more money without increasing the amount of housing will do nothing more than put more money in the sellers pocket


  • Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No. I think many (not all) young people could be better with money though and therefore be able to save more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    No. Credit fuelled the last bubble and giving it out more easily will only push prices higher esp when supply is well down. Keep some form of rules 're deposit required, x times applicants wages etc and get them to be be better on the interest rates. Their cost of funds are fcukall atm and they are making a serious margin as is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,873 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Bring back 105% mortgages - i need extra for the decking


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    Eh, no


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭MidMan25


    100% with a requirement to pay back more in the first 5 years to reduce the principle?

    It would solve the issue of people being well able to afford a mortgage repayment but not to save the 10% deposit while paying high rent, on the other hand as others said prices will be driven up.


  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wait for the next recession, can't be too far away


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,511 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    rob316 wrote: »
    I think they should. It's unrealistic expecting young working people to raise 30k for a deposit while paying extortionate rent on the private market.

    Maybe even 95%?
    Fixing the rental market is the answer - not overlending to young people to prop up an over expensive housing system.

    If you cant save the deposit when renting or living at home, then maybe buying a property isnt suitable for you, the mortage cost is only one cost of many that comes with property ownership.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    retalivity wrote: »
    Bring back 105% mortgages - i need extra for the decking

    Decking for the Dublin gaff or the Bulgaria one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Now 100


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,873 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Ipso wrote: »
    Decking for the Dublin gaff or the Bulgaria one?

    Crap....better make it 110% so


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Yes I think you should take on as much debt as you can sign for

    Things are great nothing will change

    We wont repeat the mistakes of the past

    We are an island


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