Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

commonsense. wrote: »

Can't imagine how the players would have a strong view on Pat Ryan one way or the other. As far as I know he hasn't worked with any of them. OK, players talk nowadays and maybe a few of the Waterford players have heard good reports of him from a few of the Cork players. But how that become "the players have got the man they wanted" is too much of a stretch for me.

Having said all that, he was highly highly regarded as a top class coach by the players during his short stint with Cork. So perhaps ye have pulled an ace from the pack by chance.

As you may know the selection committee were mandated to consult with the players reps and this was the man they wanted. Fact.

Dublin Dave 2014 wrote: »

New Manager
In this week's observer is a statement from co board that says that clubs have till Mon 15th @ 5.15 pm to submit the name of any suitable & available candidate.
How then have co board had time to meet , discuss available candidates, contact them to arrange interview & carry out interview , & meet again to agree best candidate , all within 3 days ?
What is the hurry , surly it makes sense to get the right candidate. ?

You are assuming the correct process was followed!!

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Is it not possible there could be truth to both? In other words, I doubt out of 30 odd players, every single one unanimously wanted one specific guy. Surely there would’ve been a few who may have wanted Daly, some would’ve wanted Candidate X, a few who would’ve gone for Candidate Y etc.
So hence, you’ll get stories of “they wanted X” or “their preferred choice was Y”?

killbillvol2 wrote: »

Ah here, you can't be applying logic on this forum!

If the decision has been made, so be it. The last two Cork managers we had worked out pretty well and if we get to watch hurling half as attractive as was played under Justin McCarthy that'll do me.

Still have to wait 5/6 long months to see

It won't be instant success and being in 1B might help us transition a bit. The Big games will be Dublin (improved a lot this year and will be even better next season) and Galway. We also play Laois, Carlow and Offaly. A loss to any of those 3 will be a disaster

One thing we know the championship structure won't change and we have another dog eat dog Munster

At least we will have more time over winter to prepare compared to last year

mountgomery burns wrote: »

In what way is Sean Power not a rookie manager?

What about Micheal Ryan and Eamon O Shea with Tipp or Micheal Donoghue or Kieran Kingston.

What intercounty management experience had they when they took over?

He has at least had success with the same group of players at underage level. If we are dishing out jobs to rookies we should at least be giving them to guys from our own county. Where are the guys above from and who are they managing? You just get the impression that nothing is ever going to change within Waterford because there is the same loser second place attitude towards everything.

mountgomery burns wrote: »

redlead wrote: »

He has at least had success with the same group of players at underage level. If we are dishing out jobs to rookies we should at least be giving them to guys from our own county. Where are the guys above from and who are they managing? You just get the impression that nothing is ever going to change within Waterford because there is the same loser second place attitude towards everything.

Who was your choice for the job? Don't know much about Ryan assuming he gets the job, which is still an assumption but happy to at least give the man a chance first.

Kenny, who is also a 'rookie', would have been my choice above all that were mentioned including Daly, John Allen etc.

Just have a severe issue with the constant gripe with managers in Waterford. There's always some quarter who never give them a chance.

Kenny would also have been my man. If he was interviewed then I wonder why he wasnt chosen (assuming he wanted it)

A one point win for the ladies.

Full Time Waterford 1-11 Clare 0-12

Waterford grind out victory to reach All Ireland quarter finals. Massive performance from Beth Carton who scored 1-9. Well done girls and enjoy the trip back down home

Mattie Kenny interview was more of a token gesture I’d say. Pat Ryan apparently has been on the co boards radar for some time.

From what I hear the story about him being the players choice is nonsense. Maybe some of them but  couple players from my area are as surprised as anyone.

I wonder who will be part of his background team ??

At least Pat Ryan will have no club bias that people assume always exist happens when a local takes over. Really surprising pick tbh given prob nobody here heard of him

Some lads down here in Cork who pay attention to this sort of thing are very envious of us getting Pat Ryan. Reckon he's a very good choice and a player favourite in Cork, having been involved with clubs, colleges and inter-county. Only time will tell, but on the balance I think it's a good result for us to have a neutral manager given where we've been and where we need to go next.

I just hope the players are happy and they get to keep one of Dan or Eoin for a continuity of the existing culture.

puzl wrote: »

Some lads down here in Cork who pay attention to this sort of thing are very envious of us getting Pat Ryan. Reckon he's a very good choice and a player favourite in Cork, having been involved with clubs, colleges and inter-county. Only time will tell, but on the balance I think it's a good result for us to have a neutral manager given where we've been and where we need to go next.

I just hope the players are happy and they get to keep one of Dan or Eoin for a continuity of the existing culture.

Hearing the same myself from someone v involved in club and inter county in Cork. They said they had hoped he would have got the Cork job before Moyler.

Gavlor wrote: »

Clean break for me. Not really sure what dan offers apart from a fashion throwback to 1985

The players had massive time for him, was a great presence both on the line and in the dressing room. Particularly on the big days his experience was invaluable. Id be more inclined to believe their take on it rather than your view from the TV screen

Mastermcgrath wrote: »

Gavlor wrote: »

Clean break for me. Not really sure what dan offers apart from a fashion throwback to 1985

The players had massive time for him, was a great presence both on the line and in the dressing room. Particularly on the big days his experience was invaluable. Id be more inclined to believe their take on it rather than your view from the TV screen

That is correct players had a lot of time for dan. Even with that said I would also be happy with a clean start. New backroom team also, fresh faces and fresh ideas.