As a capital city is Dublin one of the biggest kips in any 1st world country?

TallGlass · 20-07-2018 11:22PM

alias no.9 wrote: »

Not counting Bray/Greystones, Leixlip/Celbridge/Maynooth,

Hold on a moment there now, that's Wicklow and Kildare! Not part of Dublin in anyway shape or form.

redblaze · 20-07-2018 11:25PM

corner of hells wrote: »

Originally from Kevin Street.

Ah that explains it. You're a "true blue" type wha'?

Dublin could literally import 10 thousand extra criminals into it's city centre tomorrow and you'd still think the place was only lovely

TallGlass · 20-07-2018 11:25PM

corner of hells wrote: »

Originally from Kevin Street.

Oliver Bond is around there? Wouldn't be the nicest of places. It's all well and good to go on about the Malahides, Dalkeys and Howths of Dublin, but Sherrif is like a tip at 7am in the morning, I would be will to guess the same about around Kevin St.

Sorry, but there are part and alot of parts of Dublin letting the side down, ignoring it is just playing dumb in my eyes.

Now would it be in the top 10... Not to sure, we don't have as many scammers on the street that I can see, we import a few of them and we might be.

One More Toy · 20-07-2018 11:26PM

redblaze wrote: »

You're saying junkie meth scum who likely never paid a cent in tax in their lives and who make the capital city centre an absolute kip deserve to be in it as much as a PAYE/self employed person who's paying for their fix?

Would ya get the bleedin' boat!

Shall we just cull everyone that doesn't pay 55% tax?

redblaze · 20-07-2018 11:28PM

One More Toy wrote: »

Shall we just cull everyone that doesn't pay 55% tax?

No of course not.

But if a law was passed tomorrow to drown all the Dublin junkies in the Liffey I'd be ok with it.

One More Toy · 20-07-2018 11:30PM

redblaze wrote: »

No of course not.

But if a law was passed tomorrow to drown all the Dublin junkies in the Liffey I'd be ok with it.

That's literally one of the most inhumane things I have ever heard in my life.

Grow a nice square moustache for yourself there

Pretzill · 20-07-2018 11:31PM

Dublin does lean towards the kip side now - it wasn't always - it had charm in abundance and the rare oul times, it shares its level of kippiness with many European cities - a mixture of law and order breakdown, bad graffiti, homelessness and hipster cafes - and then the sameness - same chain stores and coffee shops - it's all a bit depressing. Thankfully I no longer call it home

Pauliedragon · 20-07-2018 11:34PM

redblaze wrote: »

You're saying junkie meth scum who likely never paid a cent in tax in their lives and who make the capital city centre an absolute kip deserve to be in it as much as a PAYE/self employed person who's paying for their fix?

Would ya get the bleedin' boat!

Hey. Every time they buy a needle or tin foil they pay VAT.

dd972 · 20-07-2018 11:35PM

The scum in London is easier to avoid is it's concentrated around the outskirts and pockets of the inner city which don't really encroach upon the city centre, what also let's Dublin down in comparison is the 'village idiot mentality' of the place where you become somebody's business on account of them not liking your face, shape of your head, way you walk, dress sense etc, got far more stranger grief in Dublin than just about any other city.

Give me a tube carriage full of self-obsessed, introverted Londoners than some of the a**eholes I've encountered in Dublin any day of the week.

redblaze · 20-07-2018 11:37PM

Pauliedragon wrote: »

Hey. Every time they buy a needle or tin foil they pay VAT.

:pac:

corner of hells · 20-07-2018 11:42PM

TallGlass wrote: »

Oliver Bond is around there? Wouldn't be the nicest of places. It's all well and good to go on about the Malahides, Dalkeys and Howths of Dublin, but Sherrif is like a tip at 7am in the morning, I would be will to guess the same about around Kevin St.

Sorry, but there are part and alot of parts of Dublin letting the side down, ignoring it is just playing dumb in my eyes.

Now would it be in the top 10... Not to sure, we don't have as many scammers on the street that I can see, we import a few of them and we might be.

I'm certainly not ignoring it or playing dumb , there's many problems to be addressed , an example made by another poster is the sameness of shop fronts of coffee shops, fast food restaurants and chainstores , some of those really need to be pulled down.

I'm not sure what your comparison with Oliver Bond and Kevin Street is , I've a couple of friends living there and a few from it , occasionally in the past I'd park my car in there or in the streets around it.
It's a rough tough working class area , but there ya go

20-07-2018 11:51PM

I wouldn't consider Dublin to be a "kip" as such but I also wouldn't consider it to be up there with other capitals in Europe.

I came back to Ireland a year ago, hadn't really been in Dublin for a decade or so before, and have been spending quite a bit of time in Dublin recently. It's interesting how the city has changed, and others areas have remained very much the same. TBH, I was quite shocked at how grimy/dirty the footpaths around the center were, and the amount of rubbish piled up in corners.. along with bins completely full.. Which would have been as I remembered Dublin of a decade ago... but I had thought with all the attention that Dublin receives, it's services would have been vastly improved... It seems like all the money was spent on rather superficial changes.

Still, it is a very pretty city in certain areas, while other areas are borderline dodgy. All within the area of the city center area...

So, as a capital city... It's a disappointment, but compared to other non-capital cities, it's above average.

harry Bailey esq · 20-07-2018 11:52PM

corner of hells wrote: »

All the inner city ?
I've friends living in the city centre in the some of the original artisan houses , amazing looking properties with a sense of pride in their communities.

True enough, it's not where you live your life but how you live it. I'm from town originally, decamped to leafy Finglas as a teenager and now live somewhere half posh. This place has feck all community spirit compared to finglas or town. We used to have street parties every year in town. The police would come down and have a match with the older lads and we'd all be hopping around in bouncey castles full of sugar. None of that here, I know my immediate neighbours but that's about it.

forward8 · 20-07-2018 11:52PM

Ah, it is a bit of a dirty kip to be fair. The problem of anti-social teen gangs is my biggest gripe more so than the zombie addicts that have infested the town. Public transport especially needs policing and a total overhaul in general. Most importantly, I'm sick of all the 'anto's, deco and his bird damo' with their two hundred convictions between them etc.
the court system is a complete joke.

redblaze · 20-07-2018 11:57PM

Deleted User wrote: »

So, as a capital city... It's a disappointment, but compared to other non-capital cities, it's above average.

But the thing is, it *is* a capital city. That's the point of the thread.

As a capital city it makes me ashamed to be in it.

corner of hells · 21-07-2018 12:00AM

forward8 wrote: »

Ah, it is a bit of a dirty kip to be fair. The problem of anti-social teen gangs is my biggest gripe more so than the zombie addicts that have infested the town. Public transport especially needs policing and a total overhaul in general. Most importantly, I'm sick of all the 'anto's, deco and his bird damo' with their two hundred convictions between them etc.
the court system is a complete joke.

The "convictions" have nothing to do with the city.

Sal Butamol · 21-07-2018 12:03AM

At least there isn't 20 pound bags of human excrement lying around the place like in San Francisco

Now there's a once great city gone to the dogs

harry Bailey esq · 21-07-2018 12:04AM

metaoblivia wrote: »

Dublin has both grit and charm. It never felt pretentious. It wasn't the prettiest city I've ever seen, but it's vibrant and friendly. I'd love to go back.

That puts it better than I ever could.

redblaze · 21-07-2018 12:05AM

=n!ghtmancometh;10757355 Bloody hell, even as a trolling attempt

Not trolling at all. It upsets me to see what Dublin city centre has become.

I've lived here most of my life and it just seems to get worse every 6 months.

21-07-2018 12:06AM

redblaze wrote: »

But the thing is, it *is* a capital city. That's the point of the thread.

As a capital city it makes me ashamed to be in it.

Then leave...

It's not going to get better. Ireland had two major periods of economic success with loads of money to spend, and the money was wasted on crap, inefficiency, and corruption. I don't see much indication that things have improved any, so I fully expect the same thing to happen again, if money was to flow into Ireland once more.

So,... get out, and spend some time in other capitals.

redblaze · 21-07-2018 12:08AM

Deleted User wrote: »

So,... get out, and spend some time in other capitals.

I might just have to for my own sanity.

redblaze · 21-07-2018 12:10AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Ireland had two major periods of economic success with loads of money to spend, and the money was wasted on crap, inefficiency, and corruption..

Genuinely curious what the other one was apart from the Celtic Tiger years.

The 80s were before my time so do you mean that? I thought unemployment was sky high back then?

21-07-2018 12:13AM

redblaze wrote: »

I might just have to for my own sanity.

You're going to be disappointed though. Just a friendly warning. All those beautiful and well run cities are incredibly expensive to live in.... and all cities have a dirty/dodgy side to them once you explore past the tourist sites or government areas.

You need to look for place which have benefits to outweigh the negatives. I'm moving to a city of 17 million people. It's a really ugly city with pollution issues, but there are plenty of positives to make up for the negatives.

Some people just aren't suited to living in Dublin, or Ireland. And those left behind, won't miss you in the slightest (although your family might. A little). :pac::pac::pac:

redblaze wrote: »

Genuinely curious what the other one was apart from the Celtic Tiger years.

The 80s were before my time so do you mean that? I thought unemployment was sky high back then?

Ahh, I tend to break the Celtic tiger into two chunks.

murpho999 · 21-07-2018 12:23AM

It''s funny that people here talk about other cities and claim they have less junkies, less crime, nicer architecture and nicer sights yet when I talk to tourists here (also have foreign family, who come here regularly) they rave about Dublin and its nice Georgian architectire, friendly people, nice pubs, beautiful parks and never mention junkies, crime, litter or problems.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 21-07-2018 12:31AM

redblaze wrote: »

But the thing is, it *is* a capital city. That's the point of the thread.

As a capital city it makes me ashamed to be in it.

You need to travel a bit more.

21-07-2018 12:31AM

Pretzill wrote: »

Dublin does lean towards the kip side now - it wasn't always - it had charm in abundance and the rare oul times, it shares its level of kippiness with many European cities - a mixture of law and order breakdown, bad graffiti, homelessness and hipster cafes - and then the sameness - same chain stores and coffee shops - it's all a bit depressing. Thankfully I no longer call it home

I forgot about the sameness, it takes a lot away from the city actually, same useless small shops everywhere, how many Carrolls and Spars do we need? And then to add insult to injury to get to the handful of unique shops you had to traipse all over the city center on foot

fritzelly · 21-07-2018 12:31AM

Remember flying back in to Dublin years ago many times and thinking what a dirty old town, just the general dirtiness of the buildings etc - don't feel the same anymore but still a kip with all the beggars and drunks lined up and down O'Connell St and the bridge - great welcome to Dublin getting off the bus

corner of hells · 21-07-2018 12:35AM

riffmongous wrote: »

I forgot about the sameness, it takes a lot away from the city actually, same useless small shops everywhere, how many Carrolls and Spars do we need? And then to add insult to injury to get to the handful of unique shops you had to traipse all over the city center on foot

Add those poxy "coffee shops" to that list too.

Subcomandante Marcos · 21-07-2018 12:35AM

redblaze wrote: »

I didn't see it in the 80s, but are you honestly saying there were more junkies and scum in the city centre compared to now? I find that hard to believe

Heroin use was far higher in the 80s and early 90s.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 21-07-2018 12:37AM

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

Having lived in Dublin for 4 long years, I can safely say I will never go back there except for the odd match.
It's a dirty, dreary and frustrating city with serious issues.

Yeh but villagers like you would hate any city.

As a capital city is Dublin one of the biggest kips in any 1st world country?

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