Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

How Soon Is Now · 20-07-2018 02:51PM

Could all change by time we play our first game but I'm just meh about the coming season. Just don't feel positive about how any of it is building up.

Mitch Connor · 20-07-2018 03:06PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Could all change by time we play our first game but I'm just meh about the coming season. Just don't feel positive about how any of it is building up.

same.

A lot of that is down to Mourinho himself - don't trust him to make the most of the players we have available and he is already sounding defeated after 1 preseason press conference.

Trigger · 20-07-2018 03:16PM

Ninthlife wrote: »

Slightly off topic

Now we are closing in on the new season starting is there going to be a Man Utd Boards FPL League again this year??

I did the last non paid one anyways, the link was in my sig, I’ll set one up soon enough if able and I’ll update my sig

Lithium93_ · 20-07-2018 03:18PM

Ninthlife wrote: »

Slightly off topic

Now we are closing in on the new season starting is there going to be a Man Utd Boards FPL League again this year??

astradave wrote: »

I did the last non paid one anyways, the link was in my sig, I’ll set one up soon enough if able and I’ll update my sig

I'll throw my name in for the non paid..

bangkok wrote: »

Valencia confirmed as new club captain

Very odd choice for club captain..

Scorpion Sting · 20-07-2018 03:25PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

FFS - the guy who barely talks and was scared of the Number 7.

Solid pro, shouldn't be first choice and shouldn't be captain.

Pogba should get the armband after his rousing pre-match team talks for France.

How Soon Is Now · 20-07-2018 03:28PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

same.

A lot of that is down to Mourinho himself - don't trust him to make the most of the players we have available and he is already sounding defeated after 1 preseason press conference.

I just have no confidence in the team going into new season. The taught of having the same back four next season......

Fred I'm excited to see how he goes but anything positive there might take a while.

Who knows whats gonna happen with Rashford Martial and Sanchez.

Up front all we bascially have is Lukaku and we won't have him for a while.

Don't even start me with Pogba I just have really bad feeling about him I really hope I'm wrong!

Mitch Connor · 20-07-2018 03:32PM

What i would say on Club Captain is that we do have a history of it being different to team captain.

We have had Carrick and Neville, for example, as Club Captins when there wasn't an expectation that they would play much. Think other clubs have done similar, with a veteran of the club being the club captain and a different team captain existing.

Adamocovic · 20-07-2018 03:38PM

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

Pogba should get the armband after his rousing pre-match team talks for France.

The lack of armband didn't stop him from stepping up in the locker room for France, and I certainly hope it wont stop him from stepping up for us.

Rossi IRL · 20-07-2018 03:38PM

I'd rather give it to literally anybody other than Valencia.

Another season of driving the ball off shins.

Lord TSC · 20-07-2018 03:42PM

I'm guessing that it's Valencia based off seniority

Tbh, it doesn't bother me too. I have; I'd imagine that when push comes to shove, the likes of Lukaku or Pogba or whoever else should be vocal on the pitch without needing Val to be.

xtal191 · 20-07-2018 03:46PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

The lack of armband didn't stop him from stepping up in the locker room for France, and I certainly hope it wont stop him from stepping up for us.

Sure look at Pogbas dressing room speeches and Lukakus team talks before and after matches during the world cup, neither of them were even captains for their countries, armband means nothing.

Mitch Connor · 20-07-2018 03:49PM

I would like to see Pogba captain United, but we first have to see him earn it, imo.

Last season, we did not see a captain in him. For France we did. For United this season, I hope we do. I would be shocked if it isn't something the United hierarchy want to see happen - to see him become a world class midfielder, the player our team is build around and revolves around, captaining us to glory.

But at the moment Pogba needs to play brilliantly for us, consistently, and be a leader without the armband.

At the moment I would have Lukaku ahead of him. Matic too, probably. De Gea, but I'm not a fan of keeper captains. The defence is a sh1t show and I wouldn't consider any of them.

bangkok · 20-07-2018 03:50PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Could all change by time we play our first game but I'm just meh about the coming season. Just don't feel positive about how any of it is building up.

#progression

Scorpion Sting · 20-07-2018 04:16PM

Mitch Connor wrote: »

What i would say on Club Captain is that we do have a history of it being different to team captain.

We have had Carrick and Neville, for example, as Club Captins when there wasn't an expectation that they would play much. Think other clubs have done similar, with a veteran of the club being the club captain and a different team captain existing.

I’d have thought Valencia would be starting the vast majority of games this season though.

Liam McPoyle · 20-07-2018 04:18PM

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Could all change by time we play our first game but I'm just meh about the coming season. Just don't feel positive about how any of it is building up.

Im not tbh. Based on what Ive been reading across the internet, Liverpool have everything won already. I've seen fans jump the gun after 4 or 5 games into the season before but never before the season actually starts.

After many false dawns, it really does appear that next year is indeed their year.

:eek:

How Soon Is Now · 20-07-2018 04:21PM

Business Cat wrote: »

Im not tbh. Based on what Ive been reading across the internet, Liverpool have everything won already. I've seen fans jump the gun after 4 or 5 games into the season before but never before the season actually starts.

After many false dawns, it really does appear that next year is indeed their year.

:eek:

No.....

jayo26 · 20-07-2018 04:35PM

Adamocovic wrote: »

The lack of armband didn't stop him from stepping up in the locker room for France, and I certainly hope it wont stop him from stepping up for us.

Exactly I'd have lukaku as more of a leader then Valencia last year and he didn't wear armband at all.

Any announcements on vice captain? Probably be young at this stage or smalling [puke gif]

jayo26 · 20-07-2018 04:37PM

Business Cat wrote: »

After many false dawns, it really does appear that next year is indeed their year.

:eek:

J. Marston · 20-07-2018 04:54PM

Business Cat wrote: »

Im not tbh. Based on what Ive been reading across the internet, Liverpool have everything won already. I've seen fans jump the gun after 4 or 5 games into the season before but never before the season actually starts.

After many false dawns, it really does appear that next year is indeed their year.

:eek:

Whatever about next year, they've identified problem positions over the last two years and they haven't messed about in improving them. I'm not gonna laugh off a team with a spine of Alisson, Van Dijk, Fabinho, Keita and Firmino. Then there is Salah and Mane to go along with it.

Meanwhile, here we are 3 weeks away from the start of the season still with no right winger and Shaw about to have his fourth (or maybe fifth?) false dawn at left back and Tony Shins at right back.

And Phil fúcking Jones still soiling Old Trafford.

Liam McPoyle · 20-07-2018 05:01PM

J. Marston wrote: »

Whatever about next year, they've identified problem positions over the last two years and they haven't messed about in improving them. I'm not gonna laugh off a team with a spine of Alisson, Van Dijk, Fabinho, Keita and Firmino. Then there is Salah and Mane to go along with it.

Meanwhile, here we are 3 weeks away from the start of the season still with no right winger and Shaw about to have his fourth (or maybe fifth?) false dawn at left back and Tony Shins at right back.

And Phil fúcking Jones still soiling Old Trafford.

I'm not laughing them off fella.

Next year is definitely their year.

TitianGerm · 20-07-2018 05:04PM

J. Marston wrote: »

Whatever about next year, they've identified problem positions over the last two years and they haven't messed about in improving them. I'm not gonna laugh off a team with a spine of Alisson, Van Dijk, Fabinho, Keita and Firmino. Then there is Salah and Mane to go along with it.

Meanwhile, here we are 3 weeks away from the start of the season still with no right winger and Shaw about to have his fourth (or maybe fifth?) false dawn at left back and Tony Shins at right back.

And Phil fúcking Jones still soiling Old Trafford.

You left out Irn Bru Andy.

fatherted1969 · 20-07-2018 06:22PM

Pretty much means we won't be buying a RB if Valencia is our captain going forward. Would love to know after all these years with Utd if he has a word of English. Don't know what criteria he's met to get the armband.

Was a time when we'd have 11 potential captains on the field, now it's the player there the longest

Mitch Connor · 20-07-2018 06:34PM

fatherted1969 wrote: »

Pretty much means we won't be buying a RB if Valencia is our captain going forward. Would love to know after all these years with Utd if he has a word of English. Don't know what criteria he's met to get the armband.

Was a time when we'd have 11 potential captains on the field, now it's the player there the longest

We signed Dalot - he will be the next right back, or at least that is what the plan will be.

yabadabado · 20-07-2018 06:36PM

fatherted1969 wrote: »

Pretty much means we won't be buying a RB if Valencia is our captain going forward. Would love to know after all these years with Utd if he has a word of English. Don't know what criteria he's met to get the armband.

Was a time when we'd have 11 potential captains on the field, now it's the player there the longest

He can speak English but mustn't be comfortable enough to do it on camera.

Ninthlife · 20-07-2018 06:51PM

I have no real expectations for the coming season especially when the defence still consists of the current crop of players.

This time last year people wanted Jones and Smalling ditched and here we are 1 year later with the same.

Smalling is going to cost United games with his inability to keep his hands to himself when defending set pieces. I just dont like him as a United player.

Jones is Jones. Will put his body on the line and possibly a good back up but he doesnt inspire confidence

Rojo again has heart but an accident waiting to happen. e.g. penalty conceded at the World Cup

Lindelof is someome Id like to see get a consistent run of games but what Ive seen hes been ok.

Bailley looks again good but the injuries prevent a good solid run.

Valencia, well he just infuriates me when i watch him. Its either blasting balls against shins or turn back and pass to midfield

Darmian hopefully goes

Shaw has all the potential but that knjury has held him back and Jose for whatever reason isnt a fan.

Whatever combination of the above you put together it just doesnt instill confidence.

As for Valencia being captain I think Jose said its just symbolic for on the pitch so i assume he expects all players to speak up whenever regardless of the armband

pjohnson · 20-07-2018 06:52PM

Jesus christ all the upset over Valencia being appointed captain. Because our previous official captains Carrick and Neville never missed a game in the role!

secman · 20-07-2018 06:56PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Jesus christ all the upset over Valencia being appointed captain. Because our previous official captains Carrick and Neville never missed a game in the role!

You must buy your blinkers in same place as Mourinho... we are going no where with that whole defensive line up bar DDG.

pjohnson · 20-07-2018 06:59PM

secman wrote: »

You must buy your blinkers in same place as Mourinho... we are going no where with that whole defensive line up bar DDG.

And Valencia being confirmed captain has led to people reaching this epiphany all of sudden?

Did these outraged people really think Dalot with 3 senior games (all at LB I believe) was going to be our first choice right back all year?

Fúck all has changed by Valencia being appointed "Captain" yet people suddenly appear horrified

secman · 20-07-2018 07:01PM

pjohnson wrote: »

And Valencia being confirmed captain has led to people reaching this epiphany all of sudden?

Did these outraged people really think Dalot with 3 senior games (all at LB I believe) was going to be our first choice right back all year?

Fúck all has changed by Valencia being appointed "Captain" yet people suddenly appear horrified

So why not buy a proven solid RB.!

How Soon Is Now · 20-07-2018 07:03PM

I won't be happy unless at least two quality players come in to replace the crap we have.

That's looking less and less likely everyday that passes.

Even Liverpool are able to go out and do it yet where still ****ing around with the likes of Luke Shaw.

Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2018 pt3

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