Henry Cavill forced to apologize for #metoo comments

py2006 · 17-07-2018 10:49PM

DONTMATTER wrote: »

I'm out of here again. We've really reached the depths when posters are calling rape victims professional whingers. Some people really need to have a good long look at themselves.

I hope the fella who left with his tail between his legs isn't too upset.

For yourself, seriously, really don't come back again this time.

JupiterKid · 17-07-2018 10:54PM

DONTMATTER = MidlandsMissus = utter misandrist.

LLMMLL · 17-07-2018 10:55PM

py2006 wrote: »

If I meet a woman in the real world that are likeminded to the couple posters here I (and i have met a couple) would avoid like the plague.

At best they are headwreckers and at worst they are looking for any stupid little reason to make a dubious accusation.

That’s alright. Somehow I doubt women are queuing up to date the guys on this thread.

Calhoun · 17-07-2018 10:57PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

DONTMATTER = MidlandsMissus = utter misandrist.

Is this another poster? people keep saying this and confusing.

Calhoun · 17-07-2018 10:58PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

That’s alright. Somehow I doubt women are queuing up to date the guys on this thread.

Indeed for the most part they would be more aligned with your group so probably wouldn't be interested anyway. By his i mean the politics just be too incompatible as both groups be fairly militant in what the believe.

17-07-2018 11:10PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

That’s alright. Somehow I doubt women are queuing up to date the guys on this thread.

Queuing up? Nope. Not a chance. But I'm not having any problems finding someone when I wish it to happen. I suspect most of us are the same. It's really not that difficult to find someone if you're willing to put in the effort to sift through the time-wasters.

DavidLyons_ · 17-07-2018 11:19PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

DONTMATTER = MidlandsMissus = utter misandrist.

I love women. I have so many beautiful, intelligent, amazing, creative, hardworking, kind and considerate women in my life. I love them all dearly.

I fcuking hate bitter, twisted, damaged, joyless, unhappy, deluded people (men and women) like that particular poster. No doubt, spending time in such a person's company would be depressingly draining.

MonsterCookie · 17-07-2018 11:21PM

DONTMATTER wrote: »

I'm out of here again. We've really reached the depths when posters are calling rape victims professional whingers. Some people really need to have a good long look at themselves.

I hope the fella who left with his tail between his legs isn't too upset.

really....nobody said that genuine victims are whingers.

you have once again decided to twist what is being said to suit your narrative and its so obvious - you're posts have lost all credibility now. but i suspect you are keeping this thread going for as long s possible for whatever reason.

givyjoe · 17-07-2018 11:29PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

That’s alright. Somehow I doubt women are queuing up to date the guys on this thread.

You'd be surprised

Venom · 17-07-2018 11:35PM

MonsterCookie wrote: »

really....nobody said that genuine victims are whingers.

you have once again decided to twist what is being said to suit your narrative and its so obvious - you're posts have lost all credibility now. but i suspect you are keeping this thread going for as long s possible for whatever reason.

Why waste your time mate?

LLMMLL · 17-07-2018 11:54PM

givyjoe wrote: »

You'd be surprised

You’re right there.

givyjoe · 18-07-2018 12:01AM

LLMMLL wrote: »

You’re right there.

You do love a good pot kettle black post. I'd say that witty personality has the boys just climbing over each other! #youtoo!

LLMMLL · 18-07-2018 12:11AM

givyjoe wrote: »

You do love a good pot kettle black post. I'd say that witty personality has the boys just climbing over each other! #youtoo!

Sorry givy. I don’t feel the need to imply I’m sexually successful. I guess I’m just secure.

givyjoe · 18-07-2018 12:23AM

LLMMLL wrote: »

Sorry givy. I don’t feel the need to imply I’m sexually successful. I guess I’m just secure.

You just feel the need to imply the men here aren't because they oppose your point of view. Yeah.. really secure.

Also..the tongue in cheek nature of the original post sailed right over your head I see. shock.

py2006 · 18-07-2018 09:09AM

LLMMLL wrote: »

Sorry givy. I don’t feel the need to imply I’m sexually successful. I guess I’m just secure.

Secure people don't suggest others aren't because they don't agree with them.

You're posts here and your bombardment of another thread in the Gentlemens Club suggests quite the opposite too.

18-07-2018 10:06AM

Would love to know what MidlandsMisandrist's take is on women who falsely accuse men. Men who have been sent down for crimes they didn't commit. Brought that up earlier but she was too busy twisting the words of other posters to respond. I honestly wonder would there be some justification in her head for it.

DavidLyons_ · 18-07-2018 10:49AM

Omackeral wrote: »

Would love to know what MidlandsMisandrist's take is on women who falsely accuse men. Men who have been sent down for crimes they didn't commit. Brought that up earlier but she was too busy twisting the words of other posters to respond. I honestly wonder would there be some justification in her head for it.

I think she's been fairly clear that she would believe the accuser each and every time. You're right, in her head she would excuse acquittals as a miscarriage of justice.

Just look at the morons who took to the streets here to protest at the acquittals of Jackson and Olding. Two men found not guilty in a different jurisdiction.

Worryingly, there were some men at those protests. Hope none of them ever find themselves at the wrong end of a false accusation.

Lets hope none of the clowns in attendance (male or female) ever find their way onto a jury.

DONTMATTER · 18-07-2018 11:27AM

The only doubting and unbelieving in this thread is from the angry men towards the women who bravely told their stories through the metoo campaign. They have been attacked, called professional whingers, been called mental, basically been told to shut up about it!
Not one bad thing has been said about ordinary men on this thread, not one. Loads of bad things have been said about men who are rapists, who harass women, who abuse women, basically scummy men have been attacked.
These are facts. Yet here we have the perpetually offended on this thread claiming that these nasty women won't leave men alone. It's not all men, it's rapists and other scumbags who happen to be men.

18-07-2018 11:40AM

Guess who's back... back again.... Midlands back.... she hates men.

18-07-2018 11:51AM

DONTMATTER, you said "I'd advise people to avoid men on this thread, they're dangerous". Unless you quantify that you mean "some", it pretty much means men in general. If you mean some men, say some men.

That's the crux of a lot of people's problems with campaigners in things like this; the generalising nature of many of their most vocal leaders.

DONTMATTER · 18-07-2018 11:52AM

Omackeral wrote: »

Guess who's back... back again.... Midlands back.... she hates men.

I hope the mods deal with this post. This poster hasn't taken being outsmarted yesterday very well but there's no need for personal abuse.

DONTMATTER · 18-07-2018 11:53AM

Omackeral wrote: »

DONTMATTER, you said "I'd advise people to avoid men on this thread, they're dangerous". Unless you quantify that you mean "some", it pretty much means men in general. If you mean some men, say some men.

That's the crux of a lot of people's problems with campaigners in things like this; the generalising nature of many of their most vocal leaders.

You were embarrassed by this yesterday, just let it go. Stop digging.

py2006 · 18-07-2018 12:01PM

oh the irony

DONTMATTER · 18-07-2018 12:03PM

py2006 wrote: »

oh the irony

DONTMATTER wrote: »

The only doubting and unbelieving in this thread is from the angry men towards the women who bravely told their stories through the metoo campaign. They have been attacked, called professional whingers, been called mental, basically been told to shut up about it!
Not one bad thing has been said about ordinary men on this thread, not one. Loads of bad things have been said about men who are rapists, who harass women, who abuse women, basically scummy men have been attacked.
These are facts. Yet here we have the perpetually offended on this thread claiming that these nasty women won't leave men alone. It's not all men, it's rapists and other scumbags who happen to be men.

Your anger is blinding you.

LLMMLL · 18-07-2018 12:17PM

givyjoe wrote: »

You just feel the need to imply the men here aren't because they oppose your point of view. Yeah.. really secure.

also..the tongue in cheek nature of the original post sailed right over your head I see. shock.

No not because they disagree with me. I just don’t think any woman would like to come home to her partner with a tale of groping or harrassment and be told “prove it”.

I think the tongue in cheek nature of my post sailed right over your head. Shock.

7aubzxk43m2sni · 18-07-2018 12:21PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

No not because they disagree with me. I just don’t think any woman would like to come home to her partner with a tale of groping or harrassment and be told “prove it”.

Who suggested anyone would or should tell their partner to "prove it" in that situation?

You're stretching things in a serious way.

LLMMLL · 18-07-2018 12:29PM

Alessia Spicy Simpleton wrote: »

Who suggested anyone would or should tell their partner to "prove it" in that situation?

You're stretching things in a serious way.

Sorry Alessia Spicy Simpleton but any woman sharing a tale of sexual harassment must provide video evidence that has been analysed by an audiovisual expert in case she tampered with it.

Anything else would be unfair to men.... or something.

7aubzxk43m2sni · 18-07-2018 12:46PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

Sorry needwater but any woman sharing a tale of sexual harassment must provide video evidence that has been analysed by an audiovisual expert in case she tampered with it.

Anything else would be unfair to men.... or something.

I haven't seen anyone making that claim either.

To insist that proof beyond a reasonable doubt is required for convictions in court is basic logic.

A general apprehension towards the ability of an accusation or allegation of not just sexual violence but also general sexism to seriously damage one's reputation and life, without due process, is not unreasonable either.

These things are not the same as never believing women, or not acknowledging that too much sexual harassment takes place.

LLMMLL · 18-07-2018 01:01PM

Alessia Spicy Simpleton wrote: »

I haven't seen anyone making that claim either.

To insist that proof beyond a reasonable doubt is required for convictions in court is basic logic.

A general apprehension towards the ability of an accusation or allegation of not just sexual violence but also general sexism to seriously damage one's reputation and life, without due process, is not unreasonable either.

These things are not the same as never believing women, or not acknowledging that too much sexual harassment takes place.

It’s a little disingenuous to suggest that this is about convictions in court after I’ve pointed out numerous times that the vast majority of metoo experiences posted do not name a man and have absolutely nothing to do with court.

Yet there are still plenty of men on this thread who said they would not believe a woman’s story. One even saying a million experiences would not convince him.

7aubzxk43m2sni · 18-07-2018 01:03PM

LLMMLL wrote: »

It’s a little disingenuous to suggest that this is about convictions in court after I’ve pointed out numerous times that the vast majority of metoo experiences posted do not name a man and have absolutely nothing to do with court.

Yet there are still plenty of men on this thread who said they would not believe a woman’s story. One even saying a million experiences would not convince him.

Ok.

So some men do not believe some women's stories. What should be done about this?

Henry Cavill forced to apologize for #metoo comments

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