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Irish water massive leak!

  • 15-07-2018 05:59PM
    #1
    GFish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭


    This is not good enough!

    We're one month into the worst drought in living memory, the law-abiding taxpayers in our capital cities, the real one and the other one - and apparently some other citizens too - are having to share showers and drive dirty cars. And while all this hardship is going on pure, clean and free Irish water is leaking out of pipes all over the country - though thankfully not out of hosepipes any more.

    Then, this morning I look out my windows and it gets worse :eek:

    Even purer, even cleaner and even free'er water is leaking out of the sky too! I turn on the TV and RTE news reports that this is happening all over the country and will continue all day and maybe even tomorrow for God's sake! (or whoever).

    If this doesn't get fixed fast my nice beige lawn might go green again so I'll have to mow it again this year, the farmers might put those big smelly cows back out in the fields, and I might have to shower alone :(

    Somebody's eyes will roll for this :rolleyes:


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  • #2
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    grandads-giant-leek-is-record-breaker-136393527682603901-141001133517.jpg


  • #3
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    A bit like this?

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057891703


  • #4
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,454 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    I wish it would leak over my back garden and over my manky dusty car


  • #5
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,387 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    If only there was a way that Irish water could raise the funds they need to make crucial repairs and system upgrades.


  • #6
    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    No way, we won’t pay was the mantra. Really sticking it to the man.


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  • #7
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    super_furry wrote: »
    If only there was a way that Irish water could raise the funds they need to make crucial repairs and system upgrades.
    you're living in a fantasy world


  • #8
    ...Ghost...
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    super_furry wrote: »
    If only there was a way that Irish water could raise the funds they need to make crucial repairs and system upgrades.

    They could draw their funds from the local county councils via general taxation just like they always have. Making a utility fat for sale is to be discouraged.

    Stay Free



  • #9
    lmimmfn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    ...Ghost... wrote: »
    They could draw their funds from the local county councils via general taxation just like they always have. Making a utility fat for sale is to be discouraged.
    Exactly and where the hell is our referendum to add it to the constitution so it can't be privatised?, no instead we have one to change the voting age etc.

    Ignoring idiots who comment "far right" because they don't even know what it means



  • #10
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    all utilities should be nationalised. the state is great at running things.


  • #11
    GFish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭GFish


    super_furry wrote: »
    If only there was a way that Irish water could raise the funds they need to make crucial repairs and system upgrades.

    Ahem - this was a joke. Politics is over there.


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  • #12
    zom
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,907 ✭✭✭zom


    super_furry wrote: »
    If only there was a way that Irish water could raise the funds they need to make crucial repairs and system upgrades.

    They can't even rise level of water in their reservoirs with current rains - it is still dropping !!

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/water-levels-still-dropping-despite-todays-rain-says-irish-water-855352.html


  • #13
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 99,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    all utilities should be nationalised. the state is great at running things.
    That would break EU rules on single market or something.

    Unless we played the national security card ;)


  • #14
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,242 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    super_furry wrote: »
    If only there was a way that Irish water could raise the funds they need to make crucial repairs and system upgrades.

    Unfortunately, we have never had a Govt. that was interested in that, they completely ignored it for decades until they were forced to and then the first concern was to get contracts to a friend of theirs.


  • #15
    Jennehy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 155 ✭✭Jennehy


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    That would break EU rules on single market or something.

    Unless we played the national security card ;)

    Link


  • #16
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    That would break EU rules on single market or something.

    £Unless we played the national security card ;)
    We already have one of those. It's too flat, it won't plug the leaks


  • #17
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    All the water protesters achieved was to make sure that only tax payers pay for water.


  • #18
    ...Ghost...
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    All the water protesters achieved was to make sure that only tax payers pay for water.

    I wasn’t a water protester. But what they did was force the government to run with their tail between their legs. First, it was about water conservation. Then it was about paying your way. Finally, they introduced a flat fee before it all fell down.

    Stay Free



  • #19
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,977 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    All the water protesters achieved was to make sure that only tax payers pay for water.

    Bull. Everyone in this State pays VAT and given that IW is funded from general taxation, everyone pays for it. You could argue that low income/unemployed pay more proportionally for it as more of their money goes directly back into the local economy.

    This nonsense of demonising protestors as "unemployed wasters" completely ignores the waste and dodgy dealings behind the entire IW mess, and the fact that any services (bins for example) that have already been privatised result in significantly higher costs for poorer services.

    But sure, blame the unemployed.


  • #20
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,236 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    ...Ghost... wrote: »
    They could draw their funds from the local county councils via general taxation just like they always have. Making a utility fat for sale is to be discouraged.

    Just like they always have? Do people not realise how bad our water infrastructure in this country is?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #21
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,977 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Just like they always have? Do people not realise how bad our water infrastructure in this country is?

    And IW addresses this how?

    What value does an expensive billing agency add? (because that's all it was - even at 100% water charge compliance it was shown to be nowhere near enough to make a difference to the leak problems)

    Maybe the real question you should be asking (rather than taking self-serving advertising and radio interviews at face value) is what exactly the councils (and Government in general) are doing with the tax we pay?


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  • #22
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Just like they always have? Do people not realise how bad our water infrastructure in this country is?
    When people start on about leaks I really want to know how much they think it would cost to fix all of them. The amount of roads to be dug up/closed alone would be astronomical before disruption is taken into account. Short of a mains bursting or an obvious flood on the road **** all was done for several decades. Hell I'm fairly sure there's a leak at the side of my building, nice roundish patch of grass has stayed green through the drought and continues on the neighbour's side of the fence. That little leak would need bits of two separate properties dug up, grass replace/reinstated and the fence removed and reinstated. And that's an obvious one which would cause little disruption.


  • #23
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    All the water protesters achieved was to make sure that only tax payers pay for water.

    Most of the people who marched against it were taxpayers angry at the misuse and waste of their funds.

    One state asset valued at €110m sold at knock down price for €45m. The dodgy dealings behind IW were the straw that broke the camels back with people. Government will never pull a stroke like that again thanks to the 10s of thousands who got out and protested.


  • #24
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    I wish it would leak over my back garden and over my manky dusty car

    It's only dust, can't get over how people are so precious about this.


  • #25
    realitykeeper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    you're living in a fantasy world

    Not so. They could turn off the water and blame people for resisting payment of charges a couple of years ago. Water charges must be brought back with a vengeance. People who refuse to pay should become the cause of entire estates being cut off from the main supply.


  • #26
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,454 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    It's only dust, can't get over how people are so precious about this.

    It was fun thread when I posted ! I am not at all prescious and will fill a bucket and fling it over it later . Would be nice to have it gleaming mind you as it carrying a bride to her wedding , so I might sneakily use two buckets !!


  • #27
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭nthclare


    realitykeeper wrote: »
    Not so. They could turn off the water and blame people for resisting payment of charges a couple of years ago. Water charges must be brought back with a vengeance. People who refuse to pay should become the cause of entire estates being cut off from the main supply.

    We're paying for water for year's,
    Tax payers money went to the local county council's to help manage the water system.

    So there's no point in paying on the double.


  • #28
    Grab All Association
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,074 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    all utilities should be nationalised. the state is great at running things.

    If this is sarcastic you're completely deluded.

    Take Telecom Éireann, it was privatised and in less than 5 years we went from having one of the most modern telecommunications in the world to copper wires held up by branches. Its only the past 3 years they've decided to roll out FTTC/FTTH because Siro would've won the NBP.


  • #29
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 33,400 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    All the water protesters achieved was to make sure that only tax payers pay for water.

    Everyone pays tax. Every time they buy a pint of milk or a pint of beer they pay tax.


  • #30
    McMurphy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Just like they always have? Do people not realise how bad our water infrastructure in this country is?

    They do, and the €2Billion plus FG and Labour ploughed into their own personal vanity project would have gone a long way to addressing some of the leaks.

    Considering that the expert committee ultimately decided that the best way of paying for water charges was through taxation.

    It was cool and trendy to blame everyone and anyone else for the shambles, from Paul Murphy and the dole scrounging protestors to SF and FF.

    Ultimately the buck stops with them.


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  • #31
    TallGlass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,906 ✭✭✭TallGlass


    Why some people are stir crazy to add another bill to there monthly out goings is beyond me.


    If we end up paying for water, the only way that bill is going is up and then it will be just sold off, prior to the government introducing some legislation to add more charges to a charge.


    Imagine, if we did pay at the moment, the current situation would be used to convince us all we need to pay more.


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