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Why is Dublin such a popular destination for Brazilians?

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Gort 'Little Brazil' has a very large population of them.

    Have a lot of them not left the last few years?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Went on a few dates with a Brazilian girl. Asked her what made her choose Ireland over the rest of Europe. She said it was the easiest place to get a visa for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Especially gay brazilians which is also quite perplexing, nearly every male brazilian immigrant I meet or see in Dublin seems to be gay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    wexie wrote: »
    Seems to be they need to have Portuguese grand parents at least. According to Wikipedia at least there doesn't seem to be special deal with Portugal as with some former Portuguese territories.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_nationality_law#Portuguese_by_origin

    Doesn't seem dissimilar to obtaining Irish citizenship

    Ah ok, wasn't sure of the exact ruling, so thanks for clearing it up. I was going on the basis that our previous Brazilian Au Pair was able to obtain a Portuguese passport fairly handily and others in her situation were the same.

    Googling it there, it seems there are over 5 million Brazilians who would fall under the category of 'eligible for Portuguese Citizenship'? T'would be a fair few!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Le Bruise wrote: »
    Ah ok, wasn't sure of the exact ruling, so thanks for clearing it up. I was going on the basis that our previous Brazilian Au Pair was able to obtain a Portuguese passport fairly handily and others in her situation were the same.

    That's why I looked it up cause I had thought there might be some form of deal but I guess it was too long ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    thebull85 wrote: »
    So would i be right in saying that potentially millions of Brazilians have the right to come to work and live in the EU, therfore having the same rights to do so as say a german or french person?

    I'm not exactly sure what a person holding an EU passport can and can't do within the member states, but I think it's fairly open as to living and working etc?

    As I mentioned above (following a googling), the eligibility for Portuguese Citizenship applies to around 5 million Brazilians of Portuguese Descent, so it's not all Brazilians.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,157 ✭✭✭TheShow


    Le Bruise wrote: »
    I'm not exactly sure what a person holding an EU passport can and can't do within the member states, but I think it's fairly open as to living and working etc?

    A person in possession of an EU passport can work and live in any EU member state without impediment. No Visas required.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭Cina


    Le Bruise wrote: »
    I'm not exactly sure what a person holding an EU passport can and can't do within the member states, but I think it's fairly open as to living and working etc?
    I am quite baffled that you don't know this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    Cina wrote: »
    I am quite baffled that you don't know this.

    Someone mentioned it was only for a period of 6 months earlier, which was making me doubt myself a wee bit.

    As I said I had thought it was fairly open and I'd already said no visa was required in a previous post so should have just gone with that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,489 ✭✭✭Yamanoto


    Economic migrants find our lackadaisical attidude to border controls increasingly attractive.

    Virtually no chance of deportation if you overstay the student visa or work beyond the hours stipulated while on it.

    Here's a Brasilian chap who entered the country on a student visa, has been convicted of supplying a decent amount of pills & weed from his rickshaw in Dublin city centre & given a suspended sentence of 6 months. The judge initially suspended the sentence on the proviso the defendant left the jurisdiction, but his counsel successfully argued he was helping support a partner and her child (who was not his own).

    The guy should absolutely be out on his ass for such an offense & it seems many of his compatriots supplement their income in a similar fashion, yet very little is done to address it.

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakin...ge-796720.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    TheShow wrote: »
    A person in possession of an EU passport can work and live in any EU member state without impediment. No Visas required.

    Incorrect. A person in possession of an EU passport can live in any EU member state for three months and if they don’t have the means to provide for themselves can be repatriated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,327 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Especially gay brazilians which is also quite perplexing, nearly every male brazilian immigrant I meet or see in Dublin seems to be gay




    Well you might have different results if you didn't spend all your free time hanging around in the jacks over in The George


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Incorrect. A person in possession of an EU passport can live in any EU member state for three months and if they don’t have the means to provide for themselves can be repatriated.

    Does that ever really happen though?

    In Ireland, or other EU countries?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    wexie wrote: »
    Does that ever really happen though?

    In Ireland, or other EU countries?

    Yes in other countries. Try living in Germany and you will find out about it.

    In Ireland we don't even have national id cards...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭MadDog76


    thebull85 wrote: »
    I have noticed an increasing number of Brazilians in Dublin in the last couple of years, a group of 8 of them now live in house on my road.

    So whats the attraction with Dublin?

    Ireland is a soft touch when it comes to the rules regarding employment..... my student niece works with a couple and they're only allowed work 20 hours per week (during the academic year) and they all only do work 20 hours per week....... they also work 20 hours per week in their second job!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    Come to Europe, a relatively safe country like Ireland to 'learn' English and there's no requirement to go home.
    Rickshaw anyone?

    It is part of a government scheme Poor-PIS

    Poor people importation scheme.
    First the English language visa scheme was targeted as Chinese students, more recently at Brazilians.
    Currently it is the turn of Indians.

    Next on the list are Bangladesh and Pakistan, no I'm not kidding.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    imme wrote: »
    Come to Europe, a relatively safe country like Ireland to 'learn' English and there's no requirement to go home.
    Rickshaw anyone?

    It is part of a government scheme Poor-PIS

    Poor people importation scheme.
    First the English language visa scheme was targeted as Chinese students, more recently at Brazilians.
    Currently it is the turn of Indians.

    Next on the list are Bangladesh and Pakistan, no I'm not kidding.

    It's part of the government's "long-term strategic planning framework for future growth and prosperity". They want an extra 1,000,000 in Ireland by 2040, so they'll invent all sorts of schemes to get it done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    Kivaro wrote: »
    It's part of the government's "long-term strategic planning framework for future growth and prosperity". They want an extra 1,000,000 in Ireland by 2040, so they'll invent all sorts of schemes to get it done.

    You can bet your arse that's an order from the EU..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 991 ✭✭✭The Crowman


    This thing is a popular childrens TV character there

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGHHYuNhCf1sQ8n4cfKJwt0khp560wNAXF2t2wTeBCPLEdwz0Y


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    This thing is a popular childrens TV character there

    That looks like the lovechild of Alf and Roseanne :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    We've very different cultures, but in my experience quite similar personalities. Brazilians tend to be happy and like a laugh, love to have a drink or ten and get messy, chatty and outgoing to talk to strangers (particularly after the drinks), quite relaxed (compared to say the Dutch or Germans who would be a good deal more formal) and with a bit of a 'laissez faire but try not to take the p*ss or hurt/offend others' attitude in general while not taking ourselves too seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    Don't have too many problems with south American migrants. We share a similar post colonial Catholic history and tradition, ensuring successful intehration.
    There is also significant Irish communities in Argentina and Mexico that should be prioritised when it comes to getting visa's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    This thing is a popular childrens TV character there

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSGHHYuNhCf1sQ8n4cfKJwt0khp560wNAXF2t2wTeBCPLEdwz0Y

    Bosco really let himself go


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Le Bruise wrote: »
    Bosco really let himself go

    You know it's bad when you've got balls for cheeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,384 ✭✭✭Duffy the Vampire Slayer


    As many Brazilians, if not more, have recent Italian or German ancestry as have recent Portuguese ancestry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    Billy86 wrote: »
    You know it's bad when you've got balls for cheeks.

    You’d certainly have to question some of your life choices!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Cobaca-copperfacejacks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    As many Brazilians, if not more, have recent Italian or German ancestry as have recent Portuguese ancestry.

    It’s fairly mixed. That’s more true of Argentina though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Incorrect. A person in possession of an EU passport can live in any EU member state for three months and if they don’t have the means to provide for themselves can be repatriated.

    Never happens though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Dublin is where the majority of the economic activity is. People will always travel counties for a good value service. There may not be a beauty parlour in their locality.


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