Why is Dublin such a popular destination for Brazilians?

thebull85

I have noticed an increasing number of Brazilians in Dublin in the last couple of years, a group of 8 of them now live in house on my road.

So whats the attraction with Dublin?

srsly78

English language schools.

eamonnq

Best place to get one apparently.

stimpson

The weather.

brevity

Favellas?

evolving_doors

It's dangerous over there. This monkey killed 3 Brazilian soldiers

evolving_doors

thebull85

srsly78 wrote: »

English language schools.

It could be that alright, but why Ireland?

Would our English language schools be superior to ones in the US or Canada?

Mr. Incognito

You can get a visa and work. Very few countries offer that. My gf is Brazilian. They are gorgeous

riffmongous

I wonder if a lot would have dual citizenship too? Then if you want to learn english Dublin is still probably cheaper than London?

troyzer

thebull85 wrote: »

It could be that alright, but why Ireland?

Would our English language schools be superior to ones in the US or Canada?

Probably much easier to get visas for. But Ireland does have a positive repuation for English instruction or so I've heard. Sure the boy King in Austria learned English in Bray.

DEFTLEFTHAND

thebull85 wrote: »

It could be that alright, but why Ireland?

Would our English language schools be superior to ones in the US or Canada?

Easier to get a visa here.

In regards to the schools themselves, no they do not have a good reputation, 13 have been closed down in the past few years for fraud.

cournioni

Not just in Dublin, plenty of them dotted around the country. Particularly in places with food processing plants from what I've seen.

For Forks Sake

Chape drink in Diceys

Icsics

Social Welfare

DEFTLEFTHAND

cournioni wrote: »

Not just in Dublin, plenty of them dotted around the country. Particularly in places with food processing plants from what I've seen.

Gort 'Little Brazil' has a very large population of them.

rtron

How many times have you met a person with a pregnant Brazilian girl friend.

Alun

troyzer wrote: »

Probably much easier to get visas for. But Ireland does have a positive repuation for English instruction or so I've heard.

No idea how. I've known a few Spanish people who've come here for several months as adults to improve their English for business purposes, and they left no better off than when they arrived.

thebull85

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Easier to get a visa here.

In regards to the schools themselves, no they do not have a good reputation, 13 have been closed down in the past few years for fraud.

Is it really that easy to get a visa here as opposed to other countries? And if so why?

Wesser

Big Brazilian gay scene in Dublin.

irishrover99

Just by posting this question in After Hours, i already have an idea of what sort of answers you are looking for.

thebull85

irishrover99 wrote: »

Just by posting this question in After Hours, i already have an idea of what sort of answers you are looking for.

The Mods are free to move the thread if they like...

Le Bruise

Many Brazilian folk hold (or have the ability to apply for) Portuguese passports, so they can travel freely in the EU sans visa.

After that, if it's travelling to learn English, it's a straight shoot out between Ireland and the UK, with Ireland winning out as being a great bunch of lads (I'm assuming)?

TheShow

Probably alot more beauticians in Dublin than down the country...

thebull85

Le Bruise wrote: »

Many Brazilian folk hold (or have the ability to apply for) Portuguese passports, so they can travel freely in the EU sans visa.

So would i be right in saying that potentially millions of Brazilians have the right to come to work and live in the EU, therfore having the same rights to do so as say a german or french person?

ConnyMcDavid

It's because of the special deal between Brazil and Ireland that allows them to study and work at the same time. Other EU countries would just allow them to study without ability to work. It's not because our language schools are any better .

Daz_

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

You can get a visa and work. Very few countries offer that. My gf is Brazilian. They are gorgeous

They are a quite chubby IMO- overrated ðŸ˜

Language school but access to work main draw

Reati

thebull85 wrote: »

I have noticed an increasing number of Brazilians in Dublin in the last couple of years, a group of 8 of them now live in house on my road.

So whats the attraction with Dublin?

I dunno but they seem to love marrying my mates. 3 of them got married in the last year.... ?

ConnyMcDavid

thebull85 wrote: »

So would i be right in saying that potentially millions of Brazilians have the right to come to work and live in the EU, therfore having the same rights to do so as say a german or french person?

...for just 6 months.

wexie

Le Bruise wrote: »

Many Brazilian folk hold (or have the ability to apply for) Portuguese passports, so they can travel freely in the EU sans visa.

After that, if it's travelling to learn English, it's a straight shoot out between Ireland and the UK, with Ireland winning out as being a great bunch of lads (I'm assuming)?

Seems to be they need to have Portuguese grand parents at least. According to Wikipedia at least there doesn't seem to be special deal with Portugal as with some former Portuguese territories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_nationality_law#Portuguese_by_origin

Doesn't seem dissimilar to obtaining Irish citizenship

Star Bingo

TheShow wrote: »

Probably alot more beauticians in Dublin than down the country...

a lot more brazilian blowouts and dazzlingly white teeth

DEFTLEFTHAND

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Gort 'Little Brazil' has a very large population of them.

Have a lot of them not left the last few years?

weldoninhio

Went on a few dates with a Brazilian girl. Asked her what made her choose Ireland over the rest of Europe. She said it was the easiest place to get a visa for.

wakka12

Especially gay brazilians which is also quite perplexing, nearly every male brazilian immigrant I meet or see in Dublin seems to be gay

Le Bruise

wexie wrote: »

Seems to be they need to have Portuguese grand parents at least. According to Wikipedia at least there doesn't seem to be special deal with Portugal as with some former Portuguese territories.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_nationality_law#Portuguese_by_origin

Doesn't seem dissimilar to obtaining Irish citizenship

Ah ok, wasn't sure of the exact ruling, so thanks for clearing it up. I was going on the basis that our previous Brazilian Au Pair was able to obtain a Portuguese passport fairly handily and others in her situation were the same.

Googling it there, it seems there are over 5 million Brazilians who would fall under the category of 'eligible for Portuguese Citizenship'? T'would be a fair few!

wexie

Le Bruise wrote: »

Ah ok, wasn't sure of the exact ruling, so thanks for clearing it up. I was going on the basis that our previous Brazilian Au Pair was able to obtain a Portuguese passport fairly handily and others in her situation were the same.

That's why I looked it up cause I had thought there might be some form of deal but I guess it was too long ago.

Le Bruise

thebull85 wrote: »

So would i be right in saying that potentially millions of Brazilians have the right to come to work and live in the EU, therfore having the same rights to do so as say a german or french person?

I'm not exactly sure what a person holding an EU passport can and can't do within the member states, but I think it's fairly open as to living and working etc?

As I mentioned above (following a googling), the eligibility for Portuguese Citizenship applies to around 5 million Brazilians of Portuguese Descent, so it's not all Brazilians.

TheShow

Le Bruise wrote: »

I'm not exactly sure what a person holding an EU passport can and can't do within the member states, but I think it's fairly open as to living and working etc?

A person in possession of an EU passport can work and live in any EU member state without impediment. No Visas required.

Cina

Le Bruise wrote: »

I'm not exactly sure what a person holding an EU passport can and can't do within the member states, but I think it's fairly open as to living and working etc?

I am quite baffled that you don't know this.

Le Bruise

Cina wrote: »

I am quite baffled that you don't know this.

Someone mentioned it was only for a period of 6 months earlier, which was making me doubt myself a wee bit.

As I said I had thought it was fairly open and I'd already said no visa was required in a previous post so should have just gone with that!

Yamanoto

Economic migrants find our lackadaisical attidude to border controls increasingly attractive.

Virtually no chance of deportation if you overstay the student visa or work beyond the hours stipulated while on it.

Here's a Brasilian chap who entered the country on a student visa, has been convicted of supplying a decent amount of pills & weed from his rickshaw in Dublin city centre & given a suspended sentence of 6 months. The judge initially suspended the sentence on the proviso the defendant left the jurisdiction, but his counsel successfully argued he was helping support a partner and her child (who was not his own).

The guy should absolutely be out on his ass for such an offense & it seems many of his compatriots supplement their income in a similar fashion, yet very little is done to address it.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakin...ge-796720.html

weldoninhio

TheShow wrote: »

A person in possession of an EU passport can work and live in any EU member state without impediment. No Visas required.

Incorrect. A person in possession of an EU passport can live in any EU member state for three months and if they don’t have the means to provide for themselves can be repatriated.

Donald Trump

wakka12 wrote: »

Especially gay brazilians which is also quite perplexing, nearly every male brazilian immigrant I meet or see in Dublin seems to be gay

Well you might have different results if you didn't spend all your free time hanging around in the jacks over in The George

wexie

weldoninhio wrote: »

Incorrect. A person in possession of an EU passport can live in any EU member state for three months and if they don’t have the means to provide for themselves can be repatriated.

Does that ever really happen though?

In Ireland, or other EU countries?

srsly78

wexie wrote: »

Does that ever really happen though?

In Ireland, or other EU countries?

Yes in other countries. Try living in Germany and you will find out about it.

In Ireland we don't even have national id cards...

MadDog76

thebull85 wrote: »

I have noticed an increasing number of Brazilians in Dublin in the last couple of years, a group of 8 of them now live in house on my road.

So whats the attraction with Dublin?

Ireland is a soft touch when it comes to the rules regarding employment..... my student niece works with a couple and they're only allowed work 20 hours per week (during the academic year) and they all only do work 20 hours per week....... they also work 20 hours per week in their second job!

imme

Come to Europe, a relatively safe country like Ireland to 'learn' English and there's no requirement to go home.
Rickshaw anyone?

It is part of a government scheme Poor-PIS

Poor people importation scheme.
First the English language visa scheme was targeted as Chinese students, more recently at Brazilians.
Currently it is the turn of Indians.

Next on the list are Bangladesh and Pakistan, no I'm not kidding.

Kivaro

imme wrote: »

Come to Europe, a relatively safe country like Ireland to 'learn' English and there's no requirement to go home.
Rickshaw anyone?

It is part of a government scheme Poor-PIS

Poor people importation scheme.
First the English language visa scheme was targeted as Chinese students, more recently at Brazilians.
Currently it is the turn of Indians.

Next on the list are Bangladesh and Pakistan, no I'm not kidding.

It's part of the government's "long-term strategic planning framework for future growth and prosperity". They want an extra 1,000,000 in Ireland by 2040, so they'll invent all sorts of schemes to get it done.

ArchXStanton

Kivaro wrote: »

It's part of the government's "long-term strategic planning framework for future growth and prosperity". They want an extra 1,000,000 in Ireland by 2040, so they'll invent all sorts of schemes to get it done.

You can bet your arse that's an order from the EU..

The Crowman

This thing is a popular childrens TV character there

wexie

The Crowman wrote: »

This thing is a popular childrens TV character there

That looks like the lovechild of Alf and Roseanne :eek: