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Kildare County Council proposing M7 Naas Park & Ride

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  • 02-07-2018 2:24am
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    marno21
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    https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/320497/talks-are-taking-place-about-a-park-and-ride-in-naas-area.html

    IMO the new Sallins bypass could feature here, from J9A to the Kildare line is around 1km. Surely rail would be the best way to progress this as bus based would just place the buses in the same traffic that people are trying to avoid. I don't think the layout of the N7 is suitable for bus lanes.

    A P&R featuring connectivity with the rail line especially the Grand Canal Dock/PPT services would be a no brainer


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    roadmaster
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    Deedsie wrote: »
    Would it not be a good target if the bus connects corridors come to fruition to have national route corridors? The N7/M7 bus route times could be improved massively with a bit of bus priority tinkering at pinch points in towns and a bus/carpool lane from Naas to the red cow.

    Could both not be done with the park ride acting as a public transport Hub . Commuters would be able to get the best of both worlds with Bus doing a different route in to Dublin than the train and they pick which public transport method gets them closest where they need to go


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    Sam Russell
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    marno21 wrote: »
    https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/home/320497/talks-are-taking-place-about-a-park-and-ride-in-naas-area.html

    IMO the new Sallins bypass could feature here, from J9A to the Kildare line is around 1km. Surely rail would be the best way to progress this as bus based would just place the buses in the same traffic that people are trying to avoid. I don't think the layout of the N7 is suitable for bus lanes.

    A P&R featuring connectivity with the rail line especially the Grand Canal Dock/PPT services would be a no brainer

    Around Birmingham, they use the hard shoulder as an extra lane, with signalling to close it in the case of it being needed for emergency use. This would work for bus lanes - probably easier as there would be few buses using it rather than cars.

    It would need to be strictly policed, and anyone pulling into it, other than an emergency, would need to face heavy penalties.


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    marno21
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    Sam Russell wrote: »
    Around Birmingham, they use the hard shoulder as an extra lane, with signalling to close it in the case of it being needed for emergency use. This would work for bus lanes - probably easier as there would be few buses using it rather than cars.

    It would need to be strictly policed, and anyone pulling into it, other than an emergency, would need to face heavy penalties.
    The layout of the N7 inbound from Naas would require realignment around all the junctions and accesses to facilitate this - and would likely only provide marginal improvements in bus journey times as most of the issues are close to the M50 and Newlands Cross, where the flyover has no hard shoulders. Bus lanes inbound around Kill and Rathcoole wouldn't do much.

    What should be explored here is that there's a chronically underused 2/4 track railway paralleling the N7 - there should be more use of this and hopefully with DART Expansion of the PPT line, MetroLink and Bus Connects this will happen.

    Long term there needs to be congestion charging on the radial motorways into Dublin and the M50, but only when effective and useful public transport alternatives have been put in place


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    CatInABox
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    marno21 wrote: »
    Long term there needs to be congestion charging on the radial motorways into Dublin and the M50, but only when effective and useful public transport alternatives have been put in place

    Will BusConnects, Metrolink and the Dart Expansion be enough to bring in this charging?


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    marno21
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    CatInABox wrote: »
    Will BusConnects, Metrolink and the Dart Expansion be enough to bring in this charging?
    By DART Expansion now I include the full Expansion programme which includes the interconnector tunnel.

    When that is built there won't be many places in Dublin that will be difficult to access via PT.

    Of course there may be no need for congestion charging if people are sensible and realise that when all of the above is implemented it'll be faster to access most places via PT.

    Only issue will be accessing some of the outer business parks but by the time all that is done I would imagine there will be a Metro West rebirth in planning.


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