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Selective reporting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Brae100 wrote: »
    It's pure nonsense. Sarah won a gold the previous day and no mention of it.

    There was an article published by the Indo the day before the O'Sullivan one, as mentioned in a previous post.
    Since when has the Irish press only ever commented on national success in an international competition based on specific daily results?

    All the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭qwerty ui op


    Brae100 wrote: »
    Wtf is going on with reporting these days? Sarah Healy had also already won her first gold for the 3000m in the European U-18 championships and apparently didn't deserve a mention. Sophie O'Sullivan is Sonia's daughter, let's mention her. Adeleke is a migrant so we absolutely have to have her in the headline. Sarah Healy? Ordinary Irish girl. Meh. Let's wait until she wins her second gold and then we might mention her. Sarah went on to win her second gold in the 1500m today.

    The Irish team are planning a homecoming op. You should go with your tri-colour and cheer on our national heros.
    Nothing ordinary about any of these young women it is you and me the ordinary Irish people who will wave our flags and look up to our national heros on the podium.
    Sophie, Adeleke and Sarah are now role models for us and our children.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    ...another thinly veiled attack on Muslims.

    WTF? :D

    Adeleke was, I believe, born here of Nigerian parents, and is almost certainly Christian.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,339 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    padser wrote: »
    It does seem like a lot of success for Irish athletes which is great to see.

    Have we finally for our act together and put a proper "medication" program going to allow our athletes to compete with the worlds elites?

    Are you asking if Athletics Ireland and Sport Ireland are drugging 15-17 year olds?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Bob Harris wrote: »
    Noveight wrote: »
    The further in to the gutter you go the less decent reporting you'll find.

    This weeks Irish Mail on Sunday had a near-full page story about a bloke shooting an otter on page 5. I lolled.
    Wtf were you doing reading that rag?


    Where else are you going to find a reputable source for otter news? Duh






    OP, I for one welcome an influx of new genes into the country. Some of these dirty fordeners have even lovelier bottoms than our own lovely girls


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    This thread should be closed, the OP is trying to be offended by the sake of it. A story about a successful, black track and field athlete - on my lord.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Lux23 wrote: »
    This thread should be closed, the OP is trying to be offended by the sake of it. A story about a successful, black track and field athlete - on my lord.




    Better to leave it open and take the piss out of him for it - no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    It's a bit strange that Sophie uses her mother's maiden name, is it not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    OP your problem is that you still think media outlets should be impartial or at least unbiased. All popular media outlets have abandoned unbiased and impartial coverage. One must just learn not to believe everything one reads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    One must just learn not to believe everything one reads.

    Especially if it's written by the OP, it would seem.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    OP your problem is that you still think media outlets should be impartial or at least unbiased. All popular media outlets have abandoned unbiased and impartial coverage. One must just learn not to believe everything one reads.




    So you're telling us the black girl didn't actually win a medal? Or that she didn't even race.




    I feckin' knew it. Comin' over here and feckin' being born here and growing up here and then stealing our headlines :mad: .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    Clearly O'Sullivan is the immigrant - born and bred in Oz!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    It's a bit strange that Sophie uses her mother's maiden name, is it not?

    Why is it odd? I don't think she was married when Sophie was born.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Lux23 wrote: »
    Why is it odd? I don't think she was married when Sophie was born.

    Ah right, I didn't know that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Clearly O'Sullivan is the immigrant - born and bred in Oz!
    No no no no no no no no no no no.

    She's white, you see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,374 ✭✭✭InReality


    where is the op gone ?lol


  • Posts: 26,219 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    TIL selective reading problem > selective reporting problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,115 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    Fair play to these young Irish women.

    original?width=605
    Source: Gary Carr/INPHO


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    padser wrote: »
    It does seem like a lot of success for Irish athletes which is great to see.

    Have we finally for our act together and put a proper "immigration" program going to allow our athletes to compete with the worlds elites?

    FYP


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Brae100 wrote: »
    Wtf is going on with reporting these days?

    In short, its athletics.
    A sport that disappeared down the peds plug hole years ago, and, rightly, most people have no interest in any more. Its really just a pharmaceutical contest of calculated risk/reward on how close the limit lines you want to try to get to without being caught. Or, to be really successful, with big resources behind you, dosing stuff that is on the cutting edge of being undetectable, or isnt even known about by the authorities to even try to test for.
    So reporters arent really reporting on the sport result per se - there has to be some other catch to make it news worthy these days - daughter of a former high profile athlete, coloured girl competing for Ireland, or other such curiosities.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    If it were to do with 'other curiousities' then Sarah Healy would not have got by far the most coverage of the weekend, except she did because she did best on the medals table. O'Sullivan & Adekele also got coverage due to finishing with medals, but not as much as Healy as she did the best of the three. To be honest, before she got the silver at this event I had no idea Sonia O'Sullivan even had a daughter - I have very little interest in nor do I follow athletics, but if the wider media were pushing her not due to her achievements but simply who her mam is I would habe heard of her by now. If O'Sullivan goes on to get some more medals then sure it will help her profile but like the kids of so many many well known professional football players who failed to get anywhere in the game themselves, if she doesn't then we won't hear much of her.

    Basically, if reporters were only looking to comment on 'some other curiousity' Healy would not have had the most coverage of the three, and Patience Jumbo-Gula would have had significantly more attention than her. Except Patience is not mentioned in the original article, and has not been mentioned once in the thread despite reaching the 100m final.

    Did Ireland have any other medalists at this event than Healy, O'Sullivan and Adekele?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Billy86 wrote: »
    If it were to do with 'other curiousities' then Sarah Healy would not have got by far the most coverage of the weekend, except she did because she did best on the medals table. O'Sullivan & Adekele also got coverage due to finishing with medals, but not as much as Healy as she did the best of the three. To be honest, before she got the silver at this event I had no idea Sonia O'Sullivan even had a daughter - I have very little interest in nor do I follow athletics, but if the wider media were pushing her not due to her achievements but simply who her mam is I would habe heard of her by now. If O'Sullivan goes on to get some more medals then sure it will help her profile but like the kids of so many many well known professional football players who failed to get anywhere in the game themselves, if she doesn't then we won't hear much of her.

    Basically, if reporters were only looking to comment on 'some other curiousity' Healy would not have had the most coverage of the three, and Patience Jumbo-Gula would have had significantly more attention than her. Except Patience is not mentioned in the original article, and has not been mentioned once in the thread despite reaching the 100m final.

    Did Ireland have any other medalists at this event than Healy, O'Sullivan and Adekele?




    The Adekele story deserved more coverage than it got



    Only 15 and winning a gold medal in a European U18 200m race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,325 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    In short, its athletics.
    A sport that disappeared down the peds plug hole years ago, and, rightly, most people have no interest in any more. Its really just a pharmaceutical contest of calculated risk/reward on how close the limit lines you want to try to get to without being caught. Or, to be really successful, with big resources behind you, dosing stuff that is on the cutting edge of being undetectable, or isnt even known about by the authorities to even try to test for.
    So reporters arent really reporting on the sport result per se - there has to be some other catch to make it news worthy these days - daughter of a former high profile athlete, coloured girl competing for Ireland, or other such curiosities.


    Anyone dismissing the achievements of Irish underage athletes based on doping scandals in Russia or China senior athletes needs their head examined. (Not saying that you are)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,994 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Watch for the u20 Relay 100m women on Sunday. I don't give a fiddlers as to their skin colour or ancestry. Go girls.
    http://www.the42.ie/ireland-team-4x100m-relay-world-u20-championships-4126655-Jul2018/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭Brae100


    Omackeral wrote: »
    There is. I haven't clicked any other article other than the one you posted!

    Adeleke's victory comes less than 24 hours after Sarah Healy secured Ireland's first gold of the Championships.

    Healy created a little piece of athletics history last night by becoming the first Irish athlete to win gold at the European U-18 Championships, the 17-year-old Dubliner obliterating her rivals in the girls' 3,000m to win in a championship record of 9:18.05.

    OP here, back after a ban for some other nonsense. The original article made no mention of Sarah Healy. I went to the the trouble to screenshot it because I suspected this might happen.

    I'm not having a go at the athletes, just at the reporting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 322 ✭✭Brae100


    OP here again. I just reviewed the reporting of the events and Sarah Healy was indeed heavily mentioned. I was wrong.


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