Selective reporting

Brae100 · 09-07-2018 12:41AM #1

Wtf is going on with reporting these days? Sarah Healy had also already won her first gold for the 3000m in the European U-18 championships and apparently didn't deserve a mention. Sophie O'Sullivan is Sonia's daughter, let's mention her. Adeleke is a migrant so we absolutely have to have her in the headline. Sarah Healy? Ordinary Irish girl. Meh. Let's wait until she wins her second gold and then we might mention her. Sarah went on to win her second gold in the 1500m today.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/sophie-osullivan-wins-silver-to-add-to-15yearold-rhasidat-adelekes-gold-for-ireland-at-european-championships-37091300.html

Tis Yourself? · 09-07-2018 12:46AM

They are people out there who still read the lugenpresse?

YFlyer · 09-07-2018 12:52AM

Brae100 wrote: »

Wtf is going on with reporting these days? Sarah Healy had also already won her first gold for the 3000m in the European U-18 championships and apparently didn't deserve a mention. Sophie O'Sullivan is Sonia's daughter, let's mention her. Adeleke is a migrant so we absolutely have to have her in the headline. Sarah Healy? Ordinary Irish girl. Meh. Let's wait until she wins her second gold and then we might mention her. Sarah went on to win her second gold in the 1500m today.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/sophie-osullivan-wins-silver-to-add-to-15yearold-rhasidat-adelekes-gold-for-ireland-at-european-championships-37091300.html

That was Saturday results. Sarah won on both Friday and Sunday. She will wipe Sonia records in time.

StupidLikeAFox · 09-07-2018 12:54AM

Here is an article she had all to herself, on the day she actually raced:
https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/healy-underlines-supreme-talent-with-golden-run-37089782.html

And then they even gave her a second article when she secured the other gold medal:
https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/irelands-sarah-healy-wins-her-second-gold-medal-and-smashes-record-in-the-1500m-at-european-championships-37093506.html

YFlyer · 09-07-2018 12:54AM

Brae100 wrote: »

Wtf is going on with reporting these days? Sarah Healy had also already won her first gold for the 3000m in the European U-18 championships and apparently didn't deserve a mention. Sophie O'Sullivan is Sonia's daughter, let's mention her. Adeleke is a migrant so we absolutely have to have her in the headline. Sarah Healy? Ordinary Irish girl. Meh. Let's wait until she wins her second gold and then we might mention her. Sarah went on to win her second gold in the 1500m today.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/sophie-osullivan-wins-silver-to-add-to-15yearold-rhasidat-adelekes-gold-for-ireland-at-european-championships-37091300.html

Correction Sarah Healy was mentioned in two paragraphs. What's the issue?

benjamin d · 09-07-2018 12:56AM

You're reading the independent, so that's your first problem as it's pure gutter trash and you'd be better off reading the Sun.

Sarah Healy has been the main sports story on RTE all day and has been getting major coverage in the Irish Times for months now.

All the usual tabloid sites like Joe.ie, The 42 and Balls have been covering Healy well too.

Brae100 · 09-07-2018 01:00AM

YFlyer wrote: »

That was Saturday results. Sarah won on both Friday and Sunday. She will wipe Sonia records in time.

The Indo's headline literally said:

"Sophie O'Sullivan wins silver to add to 15-year-old Rhasidat Adeleke's gold for Ireland at European Championships".

No mention or hint that this latest medal was only for the Saturday. It's pure nonsense. Sarah won a gold the previous day and no mention of it. Since when has the Irish press only ever commented on national success in an international competition based on specific daily results?

Agreed about Sarah's prospects. Phenomenal talent.

Noveight · 09-07-2018 01:01AM

The further in to the gutter you go the less decent reporting you'll find.

This weeks Irish Mail on Sunday had a near-full page story about a bloke shooting an otter on page 5. I lolled.

Brae100 · 09-07-2018 01:04AM

YFlyer wrote: »

Correction Sarah Healy was mentioned in two paragraphs. What's the issue?

There is no mention of Sarah in the article I cited.

Brae100 · 09-07-2018 01:10AM

StupidLikeAFox wrote: »

Here is an article she had all to herself, on the day she actually raced:
https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/healy-underlines-supreme-talent-with-golden-run-37089782.html

And then they even gave her a second article when she secured the other gold medal:
https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/irelands-sarah-healy-wins-her-second-gold-medal-and-smashes-record-in-the-1500m-at-european-championships-37093506.html

That's irrelevant. There was a headline article published after Sarah had already won a gold and they didn't even mention her. They mentioned Sophie's sivler and Rhasidat's gold, but absolutely no mention of Sarah's gold the previous day or her chance of gold the next day. Why?

Junkyard Tom · 09-07-2018 01:16AM

Brae100 wrote: »

Adeleke is a migrant so we absolutely have to have her in the headline.

She's Irish.

benjamin d · 09-07-2018 01:16AM

Brae100 wrote: »

That's irrelevant. There was a headline article published after Sarah had already won a gold and they didn't even mention her. They mentioned Sophie's sivler and Rhasidat's gold, but absolutely no mention of Sarah's gold the previous day or her chance of gold the next day. Why?

Here's the headline article after she won her first gold on Friday: https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/healy-underlines-supreme-talent-with-golden-run-37089782.html

Here's today's article on her second gold. It's currently the second story after the Leinster hurling final:
https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/irelands-sarah-healy-wins-her-second-gold-medal-and-smashes-record-in-the-1500m-at-european-championships-37093506.html

The article you linked was from yesterday, so the day between her two gold medal runs when other Irish athletes were performing, and Healy still gets mentioned. I don't see the problem tbh...

benjamin d · 09-07-2018 01:18AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

She's Irish.

Getting to the real motive for this thread here I suspect. Hoping to be corrected.

StupidLikeAFox · 09-07-2018 01:22AM

Brae100 wrote: »

That's irrelevant. There was a headline article published after Sarah had already won a gold and they didn't even mention her. They mentioned Sophie's sivler and Rhasidat's gold, but absolutely no mention of Sarah's gold the previous day or her chance of gold the next day. Why?

The report you linked to was related to Saturdays results. Sarah Healy wasn't racing on Saturday. They did give a mention to Sarah Healy in the last paragraph btw.

Sarah Healy was racing on Friday and Sunday and they dedicated articles to her on both days. I know it doesn't fit whatever conspiracy theory you are alluding to but thems the facts

Congrats to all competitors in any case!

Brae100 · 09-07-2018 01:27AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

She's Irish.

Of course she is, but she is of migrant origin so is of more interest to the headline writers. If Sarah was wearing a Hijab you can bet that her new would also have been in that headline.

benjamin d · 09-07-2018 01:32AM

Brae100 wrote: »

Of course she is, but she is of migrant origin so is of more interest to the headline writers. If Sarah was wearing a Hijab you can bet that her new would also have been in that headline.

There we go.

Dude, these girls are still technically and legally children, and they're all flying our flag proudly and exceptionally. Lay off the agenda and take pride in our athletes.

Brae100 · 09-07-2018 01:32AM

benjamin d wrote: »

Getting to the real motive for this thread here I suspect. Hoping to be corrected.

Yes. Daughter's of celebrities or daughters of migrants are seemingly more newsworthy.

Junkyard Tom · 09-07-2018 01:33AM

Brae100 wrote: »

Of course she is, but she is of migrant origin so is of more interest to the headline writers. If Sarah was wearing a Hijab you can bet that her new would also have been in that headline.

Yes, yes it's a gosh-darn conspiracy by the liberal media to, eh... cultural marxist, snowflake, George Soros, Islam, or something.

super_furry · 09-07-2018 01:34AM

Brae100 wrote: »

Wtf is going on with reporting these days? Sarah Healy had also already won her first gold for the 3000m in the European U-18 championships and apparently didn't deserve a mention. Sophie O'Sullivan is Sonia's daughter, let's mention her. Adeleke is a migrant so we absolutely have to have her in the headline. Sarah Healy? Ordinary Irish girl. Meh. Let's wait until she wins her second gold and then we might mention her. Sarah went on to win her second gold in the 1500m today.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/sophie-osullivan-wins-silver-to-add-to-15yearold-rhasidat-adelekes-gold-for-ireland-at-european-championships-37091300.html

The only selectively reporting here is from you.

You’re linking to Saturday’s report when Sarah Healy didn’t run until Sunday. Unless the Indo has a time machine they’re going to be struggling.

Meanwhile here’s Sunday’s report and surprise, surprise it’s all about Sarah Healy https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/irelands-sarah-healy-wins-her-second-gold-medal-and-smashes-record-in-the-1500m-at-european-championships-37093506.html

Oh and here’s Friday’s report and surprise, surprise it’s all about Sarah Healy https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/healy-underlines-supreme-talent-with-golden-run-37089782.html

You pick the one day she’s not running and then whine that she’s being ignored.

Seems like you have an agenda here, and you are both lying and misrepresenting facts so you can have a go at Muslims.

Brae100 · 09-07-2018 01:42AM

benjamin d wrote: »

There we go.

Dude, these girls are still technically and legally children, and they're all flying our flag proudly and exceptionally. Lay off the agenda and take pride in our athletes.

What has that got to do with the point I am making about the press being selective about how they report events? Ireland won three gold medals at the European U-18 championships. A huge achievement.

An article was published in our main newspaper and it didn't even mention the athlete who had already won on gold and went on to win a second. Instead, they went with the more socially interesting aspect of Sonia's daughter and the daughter of a migrant. In the sport pages. If you don't see a problem with this, good luck to you in expecting honest reporting in the future.

benjamin d · 09-07-2018 01:46AM

Brae100 wrote: »

What has that got to do with the point I am making about the press being selective about how they report events? Ireland won three gold medals at the European U-18 championships. A huge achievement.

An article was published in our main newspaper and it didn't even mention the athlete who had already won on gold and went on to win a second. Instead, they went with the more socially interesting aspect of Sonia's daughter and the daughter of a migrant. In the sport pages. If you don't see a problem with this, good luck to you in expecting honest reporting in the future.

It's been explained to you with links and dates by several people on this thread.

Healy has come in for particular praise in the media and is on the verge of becoming a genuine star in Ireland - which I hope is dampened as she's too young and as yet only has potential to go far so we need to manage expectations.

I'd have more respect for you if you made your racist motive clear from the outset and didn't try to frame it in the context of young underage athletes.

super_furry · 09-07-2018 01:50AM

Brae100 wrote: »

What has that got to do with the point I am making about the press being selective about how they report events? Ireland won three gold medals at the European U-18 championships. A huge achievement.

An article was published in our main newspaper and it didn't even mention the athlete who had already won on gold and went on to win a second. Instead, they went with the more socially interesting aspect of Sonia's daughter and the daughter of a migrant. In the sport pages. If you don't see a problem with this, good luck to you in expecting honest reporting in the future.

Seriously, give up the pretence and just be honest - you want to whinge about a black girl representing Ireland.

It’s laughable that you’re crying about selective reporting when you pick the one single news story from the meet that doesn’t mention Sarah Healy so you can have another thinly veiled attack on Muslims.

Muahahaha · 09-07-2018 02:34AM

If you think Athletics has it bad in the media OP then consider motorsports. The only time they report on Irish motorsports is when someone gets killed. Thousands of people attend these events but unless someone dies the Irish media pretend it doesnt exist.

WinnyThePoo · 09-07-2018 02:39AM

Massive fail by op. Great success for our athletes though.

09-07-2018 04:20AM

Brae100 wrote: »

There is no mention of Sarah in the article I cited.

There is. I haven't clicked any other article other than the one you posted!

Adeleke's victory comes less than 24 hours after Sarah Healy secured Ireland's first gold of the Championships.

Healy created a little piece of athletics history last night by becoming the first Irish athlete to win gold at the European U-18 Championships, the 17-year-old Dubliner obliterating her rivals in the girls' 3,000m to win in a championship record of 9:18.05.

_Dara_ · 09-07-2018 07:00AM

The only one I heard about on the news was Sarah Healy, OP.

padser · 09-07-2018 07:11AM

It does seem like a lot of success for Irish athletes which is great to see.

Have we finally for our act together and put a proper "medication" program going to allow our athletes to compete with the worlds elites?

YFlyer · 09-07-2018 07:49AM

Brae100 wrote: »

The Indo's headline literally said:

"Sophie O'Sullivan wins silver to add to 15-year-old Rhasidat Adeleke's gold for Ireland at European Championships".

No mention or hint that this latest medal was only for the Saturday. It's pure nonsense. Sarah won a gold the previous day and no mention of it. Since when has the Irish press only ever commented on national success in an international competition based on specific daily results?

Agreed about Sarah's prospects. Phenomenal talent.

From the article you put up.

Healy created a little piece of athletics history last night by becoming the first Irish athlete to win gold at the European U-18 Championships, the 17-year-old Dubliner obliterating her rivals in the girls' 3,000m to win in a championship record of 9:18.05.

HalloweenJack · 09-07-2018 08:31AM

Riot police got called to the tourist part of Benidorm in Spain on Saturday evening to calm down the England fans. Bars had to be shut down to make sure they couldn't get any more alcohol. Didn't see a word of this on the BBC.. A quick Google shows the Sun and the DM downplaying the behaviour and focusing on a police office who batoned a guy carrying his kid.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 09-07-2018 08:32AM

It's more like selective outrage. You're either reading the wrong papers, reading on the wrong day, or looking for something to complain about. There was plenty about Sarah in the papers .

Bob Harris · 09-07-2018 08:40AM

Noveight wrote: »

The further in to the gutter you go the less decent reporting you'll find.

This weeks Irish Mail on Sunday had a near-full page story about a bloke shooting an otter on page 5. I lolled.

Wtf were you doing reading that rag?

Selective reporting

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