Is it cos I is black?

Donald Trump · 07-07-2018 08:59AM #1

First up, we can all obviously agree that discrimination is wrong. (Well most of us).

President of the Maynooth SU tried to sue Luas for 75k because a group of young fellas who had no tickets did a runner and himself and the brother were asked to step off the Luas while the security tried to sort it.

Yes, it's a bit shitty if you had nothing to do with the trouble but it's not the end of the world. If it is as reported, it hardly seems remotely like a genuine case of discrimination.

He had another article referring some fella calling him a bad slur in an U14 football match for whatever relevance that was to the Luas incident and his feeling to an entitlement to 75k of their money

Is this something we are going to have to tip-toe around in years to come? Will we turn into the US with silent divisions and segregation and people always just watching and waiting to pounce on something that they can describe as discrimination?

http://www.universitytimes.ie/2018/07/maynooth-students-union-president-loses-e75000-defamation-action-against-luas/

Galwayguy35 · 07-07-2018 09:07AM

He was just looking for easy money, thankfully the judge saw through his bs story.

It's a life lesson for him, at least now he knows if he wants 75 k he needs to earn it.

weldoninhio · 07-07-2018 09:09AM

Donald Trump wrote: »

First up, we can all obviously discrimination is wrong. (Well most of us).

President of the Maynooth SU tried to sue Luas for 75k because a group of young fellas who had no tickets did a runner and himself and the brother were asked to step off the Luas while the security tried to sort it.

Yes, it's a bit shitty if you had nothing to do with the trouble but it's not the end of the world. If it is as reported, it hardly seems remotely like a genuine case of discrimination.

He had another article referring some fella calling him a bad slur in an U14 football match for whatever relevance that was to the Luas incident and his feeling to an entitlement to 75k of their money

Is this something we are going to have to tip-toe around in years to come? Will we turn into the US with silent divisions and segregation and people always just watching and waiting to pounce on something that they can describe as discrimination?

http://www.universitytimes.ie/2018/07/maynooth-students-union-president-loses-e75000-defamation-action-against-luas/

Hopefully he got costs against him? No mention of it in article.

dudara · 07-07-2018 09:12AM

Reading the article, it appears that the judge didn’t entirely disagree with Diop, but found that he didn’t have a legal basis to award damages, and therefore had to dismiss the case.

07-07-2018 09:13AM

If they only asked Black people off I might be offended if I were one myself but if everyone had to get off regardless of colour then I don't see anything wrong with it

evolving_doors · 07-07-2018 09:20AM

First up, we can all racist obviously but not be.
Well maybe not.

Donald Trump · 07-07-2018 09:22AM

Other articles.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/people-were-saying-i-should-be-deported-student-who-brought-75k-defamation-claim-says-he-regularly-suffers-racial-abuse-37089006.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/maynooth-student-loses-75-000-defamation-action-against-luas-1.3555605

Now, being subject to discrimination is terrible, but to me, this looks likes an attempt to make a few easy quid and is an insult to those that do suffer it

Donald Trump · 07-07-2018 09:23AM

evolving_doors wrote: »

First up, we can all racist obviously but not be.
Well maybe not.

Depends on whatever you're having yourself

wexie · 07-07-2018 09:28AM

evolving_doors wrote: »

First up, we can all racist obviously but not be.
Well maybe not.

???

Not sure even Yoda could make sense of that?

glic71rods46t0 · 07-07-2018 09:29AM

The fact that he was elected SU President would be strong evidence that he doesnt suffer extensive racism in his life. The fact that at 23 years of age he had to refer to an under14 match for an example of racist slurs is quite telling - it probably happened up to 10 years ago!
I hope this chancer gets landed with all legal costs

Donald Trump · 07-07-2018 09:30AM

dudara wrote: »

Reading the article, it appears that the judge didn’t entirely disagree with Diop, but found that he didn’t have a legal basis to award damages, and therefore had to dismiss the case.

Well according to the article, they didn't even make him get off the train. Just made hand signals for them to get off.

It's not really discrimination though if you fit the description of someone who was causing trouble and they want to check.

What that description was is a little irrelevant though. Would it make it better if it had said "a group of people in Mayo jerseys", or a "group of young fellas"

Even if they had gotten him off the Luas and onto the platform, it would have only been a few minutes wait til the next one.

Fair enough if the security randomly got on the train on a random day and said "ah look, there are a few random black people on this train. Those lot are always up to no good. Let's kick them off to get the next one"

wexie · 07-07-2018 09:32AM

r9fel15dmxybi3 wrote: »

The fact that he was elected SU President would be strong evidence that he doesnt suffer extensive racism in his life.

I don't know the chap, he may be very able and completely deserve the position. On the other hand, from what I understand of the climate on a lot of campuses, I wouldn't discount the possibility that he ended up as president because people are going out of their way to make sure they're not seen as racist.

From the article I find it hard to tell whether or not this was an incident of profiling to be honest.

Donald Trump · 07-07-2018 09:33AM

r9fel15dmxybi3 wrote: »

The fact that he was elected SU President would be strong evidence that he doesnt suffer extensive racism in his life. The fact that at 23 years of age he had to refer to an under14 match for an example of racist slurs is quite telling - it probably happened up to 10 years ago!
I hope this chancer gets landed with all legal costs

I could probably write a book on all the names I'd have been called playing U14 football.

That said, it was mostly by the parents and the referee who were wondering why a 60-odd year old future US Presidential candidate was trying to sneak in at corner-back for Ballygobackward GAA club

enricoh · 07-07-2018 09:36AM

He wanted 75k for that. 75! Awards in Ireland should be divided by a factor if 10, it'd stop the scroungers bothering.
And costs awarded against them would make the no win no fee solicitors be a bit more picky about what cases they take on

evolving_doors · 07-07-2018 09:42AM

Donald Trump wrote: »

Well according to the article, they didn't even make him get off the train. Just made hand signals for them to get off.

It's not really discrimination though if you fit the description of someone who was causing trouble and they want to check.

What description was that OP?

07-07-2018 09:45AM

Donald Trump wrote: »

Other articles.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/people-were-saying-i-should-be-deported-student-who-brought-75k-defamation-claim-says-he-regularly-suffers-racial-abuse-37089006.html

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/maynooth-student-loses-75-000-defamation-action-against-luas-1.3555605

Now, being subject to discrimination is terrible, but to me, this looks likes an attempt to make a few easy quid and is an insult to those that do suffer it

I don't know this chap nor can I possibly know his motives but another side to it could be that he was trying to stop it happen again. Getting sued usually puts manners on people.

I'm just putting it out there

evolving_doors · 07-07-2018 09:49AM

wexie wrote: »

???

Not sure even Yoda could make sense of that?

as much sense as this makes it.

First up, we can all obviously agree that discrimination is wrong. (Well most of us).

thebull85 · 07-07-2018 09:52AM

DEPORT

wexie · 07-07-2018 09:55AM

thebull85 wrote: »

DEPORT

based on what? Has he committed some crime we're not aware of?

Or just cause he's black?

wexie · 07-07-2018 09:57AM

thebull85 wrote: »

Attempting to defraud the state, get him out.

No he wasn't, if anything he was attempting to defraud the security company for the Luas.....

G'won Bully, be honest and tell us why you'd really like to deport the chap, not like we don't already know :rolleyes:

EDIT : I see you've deleted your post, thankfully I got it in time

dudara · 07-07-2018 09:59AM

thebull85 wrote: »

DEPORT

On what basis do you propose to deport an Irish citizen?

thebull85 · 07-07-2018 10:01AM

wexie wrote: »

No he wasn't, if anything he was attempting to defraud the security company for the Luas.....

G'won Bully, be honest and tell us why you'd really like to deport the chap, not like we don't already know :rolleyes:

EDIT : I see you've deleted your post, thankfully I got it in time

I actually wasnt being serious, id of put money on yourself or captain oblivious being the first to reply to me though.

wexie · 07-07-2018 10:02AM

thebull85 wrote: »

I actually wasnt being serious,

Of course you weren't, we all know you don't have a problem with people of colour at all.

There there it's okay.

:rolleyes:

Donald Trump · 07-07-2018 10:04AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

I don't know this chap nor can I possibly know his motives but another side to it could be that he was trying to stop it happen again. Getting sued usually puts manners on people.

I'm just putting it out there

I'd say we know his motives. 75k of them

A judgement and negative publicity against the company is what would hurt them. Whether that be 100 Euro or 75,000 Euro would not make a huge difference to their annual bottom line.

However it would make a difference to Mr. SU Pres

thebull85 · 07-07-2018 10:05AM

wexie wrote: »

Of course you weren't, we all know you don't have a problem with people of colour at all.

There there it's okay.

:rolleyes:

i dont have a problem with people of colour i have a problem with scumbags, regardless of colour.

Donald Trump · 07-07-2018 10:05AM

evolving_doors wrote: »

as much sense as this makes it.

Did you manage to make sense of it yet?

Donald Trump · 07-07-2018 10:08AM

evolving_doors wrote: »

What description was that OP?

Jaysus, you're easily "triggered"

:pac:

07-07-2018 10:11AM

Donald Trump wrote:

A judgement and negative publicity against the company is what would hurt them. Whether that be 100 Euro or 75,000 Euro would not make a huge difference to their annual bottom line.

The bigger the payout the more they stand up and take notice. A small claim wouldn't have made the paper.

Donald Trump · 07-07-2018 10:28AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

The bigger the payout the more they stand up and take notice. A small claim wouldn't have made the paper.

Ah get out of that. SU President discriminated against? Remember the big uproar about the UCD Pro-life wan. The Trinity wan who used to be a junkie and made it to the Seanad. Plenty of publicity. They have access to plenty of platforms to raise issues. Sure they have access to their own papers too

He wasn't being a hero. Was just being a greedy bollix trying to game the system

07-07-2018 10:37AM

Donald Trump wrote: »

Ah get out of that. SU President discriminated against? Remember the big uproar about the UCD Pro-life wan. The Trinity wan who used to be a junkie and made it to the Seanad. Plenty of publicity. They have access to plenty of platforms to raise issues. Sure they have access to their own papers too

He wasn't being a hero. Was just being a greedy bollix trying to game the system

WTF is a "Wan"? I've googled it and no result that makes sense to your statement?

wan
wɒn/Submit
adjective
(of a person's complexion or appearance) pale and giving the impression of illness or exhaustion.
"she was looking wan and bleary-eyed"
synonyms: pale, pallid, ashen, white, white as a sheet, grey; More
(of light) pale; weak.
"the wan dawn light"
synonyms: dim, faint, weak, feeble, pale, watery, wishy-washy
"the wan light of the moon"
(of a smile) lacking enthusiasm or energy.
"he gave a wan smile"

wexie · 07-07-2018 10:45AM

Sleeper12 wrote: »

WTF is a "Wan"? I've googled it and no result that makes sense to your statement?

'yer wan from Trinity'

'that girl from Trinity'

Is it cos I is black?

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