Breastfeeding and the GAA

DEFTLEFTHAND · 04-07-2018 12:10PM

Do they have toilets at St Conleth's Park?

Idle Passerby · 04-07-2018 12:13PM

washman3 wrote: »

There is nobody here suggesting anything like that, just you twisting things to suit your agenda.
What some people are saying, and rightly so, is that this woman displayed poor judgement and common sense by bringing a young child on a long, and needless, journey in the middle of a heatwave to attend a very loud event that would last at least 2.

Fair enough. Personally i would find attending a sporting event a torturous experience so I'm not saying it was a particularly good place to bring a baby. But at that age, it's not really going to register where it is anyway and it seems unfair to think parents of small kids should be expected to forego a day out they enjoy because other people object to a baby being present. It's not going to make a difference to a baby whose still small enough to be breastfed whether it's at a playground or a match. Im not a parent though so that's just my two cents.

i71jskz5xu42pb · 04-07-2018 12:13PM

theyoungchap wrote: »

Out of curiousity, how do you know he/she doesn't have kids?

Because if he had he wouldn't be here bleating on about what a stress a car journey and a crowd is for a baby. If/when you have kids of your own you too will laugh at people who think kids should be wrapped cotton wool.

washman3 · 04-07-2018 12:14PM

Keano wrote: »

You said it yourself she should have gone to a playground or beach!!

And you point is..??
Mine is that she was totally out of order putting a child in a car for a very long drive during a heatwave and spend at least another 2 hours in scorching heat surrounded by roaring fans.
Going to a local beach or playground she could've done in her own good time, not that the playground would be of use to a young child, but at least it would've been a more suitable environment.

washman3 · 04-07-2018 12:21PM

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Do they have toilets at St Conleth's Park?

Ya, top class toilet facilities with full babychanging facilities and the entire stadium is fully air-conditioned.
How else do you think this venue was preferred over Croke Park for the game...:D:D

Roger Hassenforder · 04-07-2018 12:22PM

Keano wrote: »

You said it yourself she should have gone to a playground or beach!!

Which wasnt what idle passerby claimed

04-07-2018 12:29PM

But the rest of the stewards were all really helpful to her. Why not concentrate on that?

Beasty · 04-07-2018 12:32PM

You guys sure are milking this one.....

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 04-07-2018 12:39PM

Day Lewin wrote: »

Technically illegal. Mother has a right to feed her child anywhere she likes, any place at all. And rightly so.

I am going to breastfeed my child in your bedroom at 4AM, some night this week. By your law, is there any notice required from my side, or can I just show up whenever I wish? Oh, any link to that law? I question it's validity.

Schoolboy sniggering over this natural and normal business is really, really immature.

This part also seems to be imagined.

She had to go to the VIP section, couldn't have chosen any other place, no? Is breastfeeding in the car (parked), a mortal sin or did that just not suit her agenda. Sounds to me that she is going out of her way to be a twat.

Breastfeeding doesn't give you special powers to do whatever you want. Plan your trip, she didn't just attain a 5 month old on her journey. She should have a vague idea of how often her child feeds and other habits after 5 months.

Contrary to what some on here believe, it's not impossible to make a "long" journey with a child of that age. You just have to plan it and put in enough breaks for your journey. It doesn't define somebody as a parent, that's nonsense.

kylith · 04-07-2018 12:43PM

washman3 wrote: »

Keano wrote: »

You said it yourself she should have gone to a playground or beach!!

And you point is..??
Mine is that she was totally out of order putting a child in a car for a very long drive during a heatwave and spend at least another 2 hours in scorching heat surrounded by roaring fans.
Going to a local beach or playground she could've done in her own good time, not that the playground would be of use to a young child, but at least it would've been a more suitable environment.

A beach or playground would have been just as hot and the visit would have been just as long. Stadia generally have roofs over at least 2 sides which would have offered more shade than available at a beach or playground.

washman3 · 04-07-2018 12:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

But the rest of the stewards were all really helpful to her. Why not concentrate on that?

Because certain people need a excuse to have a daily pop at the GAA..;)
The steward was wrong and possibly ignorant of the situation in hand, nobody is suggesting otherwise. But it's not the position of the GAA to prevent a mother breastfeeding in a stadium, and would probably be illegal to do so anyway.
Not surprising that the vast majority of the stewards were more than helpful to her, most right thinking people would be.

washman3 · 04-07-2018 12:48PM

kylith wrote: »

A beach or playground would have been just as hot and the visit would have been just as long. Stadia generally have roofs over at least 2 sides which would have offered more shade than available at a beach or playground.

I sincerely doubt she would've had to drive for 3 and a half hours to find a beach or playground in Mayo. Its not really that backward outside the M50 you know.

RikkFlair · 04-07-2018 12:58PM

Beasty wrote: »

You guys sure are milking this one.....

It was a nice trip down mammary lane....

kylith · 04-07-2018 01:00PM

washman3 wrote: »

kylith wrote: »

A beach or playground would have been just as hot and the visit would have been just as long. Stadia generally have roofs over at least 2 sides which would have offered more shade than available at a beach or playground.

I sincerely doubt she would've had to drive for 3 and a half hours to find a beach or playground in Mayo. Its not really that backward outside the M50 you know.

In a car with air conditioning, which probably meant it was cooler than her house.

theyoungchap · 04-07-2018 01:03PM

RikkFlair wrote: »

Beasty wrote: »

You guys sure are milking this one.....

It was a nice trip down mammary lane....

I'm just trying to keep abreast of the situation

ceadaoin. · 04-07-2018 01:04PM

washman3 wrote: »

I sincerely doubt she would've had to drive for 3 and a half hours to find a beach or playground in Mayo. Its not really that backward outside the M50 you know.

People in America regularly make road trips way longer than 3 hours with children. It's really not that big a deal. Are people to be confined to a certain radius around their house once they have children? The car had air conditioning, and the baby was asleep for most of it. Someone call social services!

washman3 · 04-07-2018 01:08PM

kylith wrote: »

In a car with air conditioning, which probably meant it was cooler than her house.

Was the stadium also air-conditioned.??
Somebody here already said stadiums can be cool if you are under a covered roof. well any game i've been at over the last few weeks its been absolutely boiling (unless those coveted suites in Croker) and I wouldn't dream of taking a 5 month old child to a game in this weather, 3 and a half hours from home.

harr · 04-07-2018 01:09PM

She was in the stadium two hours before throw in , St Conleth’s is a place to spend least amount time than you have to... so 4 hours in at pitch with little or no amenities. Newbridge has many nice little cafes as well whitewater to spend a few hours before a game.
The steward in question was wrong but I have a feeling he might have taught she was trying to pull a fast one, she seemed to have been treated well after that and got an apology from head steward and was told the person in question would be pulled up on his actions.
I really don’t know why she is slating the whole GAA over this as it really is a non story..

Grayson · 04-07-2018 01:16PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

People in America regularly make road trips way longer than 3 hours with children. It's really not that big a deal. Are people to be confined to a certain radius around their house once they have children? The car had air conditioning, and the baby was asleep for most of it. Someone call social services!

I know people who travel from mayo to Dublin regularly to visit relatives (ok, by relatives I mean me).

It's not an easy journey with kids. Hell, trying to get young kids mobilized to drive 10 minutes away is an effort. But it can be done ands with proper planning it's a lot easier. And it all depends on the kids, they're not all the same. Some will quite happily doze for 5 hours. Others will go nuts.

It's strange how this thread starts with a GAA official telling a woman that she should go to the toilets to breastfeed and ends up with people blaming the women for being there.

washman3 · 04-07-2018 01:21PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

People in America regularly make road trips way longer than 3 hours with children. It's really not that big a deal. Are people to be confined to a certain radius around their house once they have children? The car had air conditioning, and the baby was asleep for most of it. Someone call social services!

We don't live in America. They also have children spending life without parole in prisons over there. Should we also implement that here or do you just want to pick and choose the similarities that are convenient for your agenda.
St.Conleths Park is not in America, if it was it probably wouldn't be the kip that it is.!!
just use common sense and don't make needless journeys. Getting there in an air-conditioned car is one thing, but spending at least another 2 hours there in 30C heat is a completely different kettle of fish.
And then have the gall to go on National media to complain when 1 steward out of a probable 100+ has a problem with breastfeeding in public.

TheBoyConor · 04-07-2018 01:22PM

Why would anyone bring a small baby like that to a GAA match and be horsing a buggy around the stands. A packed GAA stadium is no place for small babies to be honest.

bee06 · 04-07-2018 01:28PM

Dayana Dazzling Swagger wrote: »

I am going to breastfeed my child in your bedroom at 4AM, some night this week. By your law, is there any notice required from my side, or can I just show up whenever I wish? Oh, any link to that law? I question it's validity.

This part also seems to be imagined.

She had to go to the VIP section, couldn't have chosen any other place, no? Is breastfeeding in the car (parked), a mortal sin or did that just not suit her agenda. Sounds to me that she is going out of her way to be a twat.

Breastfeeding doesn't give you special powers to do whatever you want. Plan your trip, she didn't just attain a 5 month old on her journey. She should have a vague idea of how often her child feeds and other habits after 5 months.

Contrary to what some on here believe, it's not impossible to make a "long" journey with a child of that age. You just have to plan it and put in enough breaks for your journey. It doesn't define somebody as a parent, that's nonsense.

It is illegal to prevent a woman from breastfeeding in any public place. Here’s some more information in which laws protect it. http://www.friendsofbreastfeeding.ie/wp/info-packs/breastfeeding-basics-0-12-months/breastfeeding-in-public-and-the-law/

That being said, I personally wouldn’t have taken my 6 month old on a trip like that.

Fr_Dougal · 04-07-2018 01:29PM

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Why would anyone bring a small baby like that to a GAA match and be horsing a buggy around the stands. A packed GAA stadium is no place for small babies to be honest.

Agree.

They’re banned from football stadia in the UK. Sounds like a case of really poor parenting, you’d hope social services would intervene.

Tin Foil Hat · 04-07-2018 01:30PM

Day Lewin wrote: »

Technically illegal. Mother has a right to feed her child anywhere she likes, any place at all. And rightly so.

Eh, no!
You are legally entitled to breastfeed at a restaurant table, a park bench, your seat at a football stadium or anywhere else you happen to be.
You are not entitled to use a pair of tits and a baby as a battering ram to barge in somewhere where you have no entitlement to be in the first place.

Grayson · 04-07-2018 01:33PM

Tin Foil Hat wrote: »

You are not entitled to use a pair of tits and a baby as a battering ram to barge in somewhere where you have no entitlement to be in the first place.

“I met a steward and he said ‘no, sorry you can’t get up here’. I said ‘are there any seats available at all? I’m breastfeeding my baby’. He said ‘you can’t do that here, you can’t do that in the grounds. You can do it in the toilets’.”

Trying to square up your comment with what happened.

notsoyoungwan · 04-07-2018 01:37PM

Idle Passerby wrote: »

...it seems unfair to think parents of small kids should be expected to forego a day out they enjoy because other people object to a baby being present.

Of course, at the time you posted this, nobody had objected to the baby being present just because, or for no good reason, or because it was a baby. The objections raised were because a small baby was brought to an outdoor venue for a number of hours, in the middle of a heatwave. People questioned the wisdom of that parenting decision, and IMO it’s entirely appropriate to question it.

Only one posted since has suggested that babies (and buggies and associated paraphernalia) should not be allowed inside sports stadia. One poster.

washman3 · 04-07-2018 01:40PM

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Why would anyone bring a small baby like that to a GAA match and be horsing a buggy around the stands. A packed GAA stadium is no place for small babies to be honest.

Apparently they do it regularly in AMERICAY so we must follow suit and do it over here too...:D:D

sbsquarepants · 04-07-2018 01:46PM

washman3 wrote: »

She is also required to display basic common sense, ie making a totally needless 3 and a hour trip in blistering heat with a young child just to satisfy her own ego, is plain madness.

I think I see the mistake you're making - you seem to have confused "young child" with "ice cream".

Kids can survive gruelling 3 hour journeys, even in this relentless mid 20's furnace.

Ice cream, would never make it. It would be delicious dairy suicide.

Grayson · 04-07-2018 01:48PM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I think I see the mistake you're making - you seem to have confused "young child" with "ice cream".

Kids can survive gruelling 3 hour journeys, even in this relentless mid 20's furnace.

Ice cream, would never make it. It would be delicious dairy suicide.

It's a pity we're living in the 1960's and there's no air con in a car.

sbsquarepants · 04-07-2018 01:50PM

notsoyoungwan wrote: »

The objections raised were because a small baby was brought to an outdoor venue for a number of hours, in the middle of a heatwave. People questioned the wisdom of that parenting decision, and IMO it’s entirely appropriate to question it.
.

I have a 4 month old - he's basically outdoors from morning to evening for the last couple of weeks. Hasn't done him any harm whatsoever. In fact I'd argue that it has done him the world of good.

Breastfeeding and the GAA

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