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From the Pantibar!!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭trick


    yesto24 wrote: »
    And what is worse?
    They are both going to hurt just as bad. Are gay bones more brittle than straight bones? Does gay skin cut more easily than straight skin?
    This is the problem of the idea of a hate crime, surely all crimes of kicking the **** of someone innocent is a hate crime?

    Don’t try to make this **them again us**
    I don’t play like that boo *-)

    Nobody deserves abuse.
    NOBODY!!!!!

    But the abuse of someone from a STRANGER because someone is GAY or TRANS or anything on the LGBTQIA+ is not ok.

    The thread is about homosexuals.

    I fight for the protection of everyone’s rights. I’m a nurse.
    I don’t think that anyone is above anyone or below anyone.
    Please don’t try twist it that way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭trick


    I never said I was? Did I?

    You implied it honey x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭yesto24


    trick wrote: »
    Don’t try to make this **them again us**
    I don’t play like that boo *-)

    Nobody deserves abuse.
    NOBODY!!!!!

    But the abuse of someone from a STRANGER because someone is GAY or TRANS or anything on the LGBTQIA+ is not ok.

    The thread is about homosexuals.

    I fight for the protection of everyone’s rights. I’m a nurse.
    I don’t think that anyone is above anyone or below anyone.
    Please don’t try twist it that way

    I am not trying to make it them against us.
    That was my point.

    Love how you dropped I'm a nurse randomly into your post.

    I do think I am above some people. And I am sure nearly everyone on this thread does too.
    I think I am above the lads in Portlaoise who doled out that beating that was mentioned earlier.

    Is there anyone who thinks they are an equal to those boyos?


  • Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    trick wrote: »
    I fight for the protection of everyone’s rights.






  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭trick


    yesto24 wrote: »
    I am not trying to make it them against us.
    That was my point.

    Love how you dropped I'm a nurse randomly into your post.

    What was random about that?
    I am a nurse ðŸ˜


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,268 ✭✭✭✭How Soon Is Now


    trick wrote: »
    You implied it honey x

    How?

    Look people get judged in all kinds of ways no matter who or what they are.

    Sure you could be the most white straight manliest man going (the most privileged types!) and still get abuse in some form. It's not a contest or is it?

    Life is **** a lot the time that won't ever change no matter who or what you are.

    Some just deal with it better then others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭trick



    Exactly. I do.
    I am against any time of abuse.
    This is a thread re pantibar and homosexuals +++
    I will always fight the corner or anyone that is abused
    Whether that is a straight person or a gay person


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    Never been is that like a gay zanzibar or what


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭yesto24


    trick wrote: »
    What was random about that?
    I am a nurse ðŸ˜

    But what has it got to do with your comment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭trick


    yesto24 wrote: »
    But what has it got to do with your comment?

    There was Implication that I didn’t feel the same towards straight people who are abused in STRAIGHT rels.

    I’m confused as to how it’s necessary for me to explain?
    I have worked in many an ER where a PERSON arrives following a domestic assault.
    I will always be against any type of assault. Always.

    But the thread is about pantibar ==\== homosexuals
    That was my basis for my opinion in my op

    Sorry if I hit a nerve


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Just home from watching Kickboxer in the Lighthouse and Smithfield was packed as I left (primed for tomorrow's Pride events there I guess).

    Anyway, as I made my way towards the Luas a couple of young guys made some suggestive comments to me and asked me to come up to some party with them. I jovially declined and then some further comments were made which I won't repeat. Have we really got to stage where a man can't walk the streets at night without lewd offers of sex being made to them? As far as I'm concerned this means one thing, and that's that I've clearly still got it!!

    For evidence of true equality though I still think what we need are groups of young women accosting men on the way home, with similarly debauched offers. We're a ways off that of that of course but we can always hope, we can always do that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭yesto24


    trick wrote: »
    There was Implication that I didn’t feel the same towards straight people who are abused in STRAIGHT rels.

    I’m confused as to how it’s necessary for me to explain?
    I have worked in many an ER where a PERSON arrives following a domestic assault.
    I will always be against any type of assault. Always.

    But the thread is about pantibar ==\== homosexuals
    That was my basis for my opinion in my op

    Sorry if I hit a nerve

    No you don't hit a nerve
    I thought it was a random comment to drop in and after your explanation I still do.
    I didn't see the implication that you mentioned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭trick


    Just home from watching Kickboxer in the Lighthouse and Smithfield was packed as I left (primed for tomorrow's Pride events there I guess).

    Anyway, as I made my way towards the Luas a couple of young guys made some suggestive comments to me and asked me to come up to some party with them. I jovially declined and then some further comments were made which I won't repeat. Have we really got to stage where a man can't walk the streets at night without lewd offers of sex being made to them? As far as I'm concerned this means one thing and that that I've clearly still got it!!

    For evidence of true equality though I still think what we need are groups of young women accosting men on the way home, with similarly debauched offers. We're a ways off that off that of course but we can always hope, we can always do that.

    Buddy I hope that you know that not all women share the same idea of #metoo
    I literally hate that entire debaucle. I feel like it’s an easy **OUT** for women to be misandrists.
    I don’t think it’s ok that you were basically accosted. Not cool!
    Hope you got home safe and you are ok 👌ðŸ»


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭trick


    yesto24 wrote: »
    No you don't hit a nerve
    I thought it was a random comment to drop in and after your explanation I still do.
    I didn't see the implication that you mentioned.

    That’s your issue boo.
    I explained. I can’t do anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 White_hills


    Think they had a bit of bother there tonight, someone threw a rock through the window with an anti gay message on it. Bad form!! ,

    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/06/30/pride-me-sideways/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 234 ✭✭yesto24


    trick wrote: »
    That’s your issue boo.
    I explained. I can’t do anymore

    It's not an issue.
    I am not asking you too.
    Don't worry you don't have to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    trick wrote: »
    Buddy I hope that you know that not all women share the same idea of #metoo
    I literally hate that entire debaucle. I feel like it’s an easy **OUT** for women to be misandrists.
    I don’t think it’s ok that you were basically accosted. Not cool!
    Hope you got home safe and you are ok 👌ðŸ»

    He's taking the piss...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭trick


    deco nate wrote: »
    He's taking the piss...

    I’m enjoying pride weekend avec 2 bottles of prosecco. I’m never on here. Ever. So I don’t know this dudes form.
    Merci


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭trick


    deco nate wrote: »
    He's taking the piss...

    My post stands though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    trick wrote: »
    My post stands though

    Read his post again tomorrow. You're reply totally missed the mark;)
    (I'm not having a go)
    Enjoy the rest of your night :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭trick


    deco nate wrote: »
    Read his post again tomorrow. You're reply totally missed the mark;)
    (I'm not having a go)
    Enjoy the rest of your night :D

    I literally just reread it and LOL’d
    BOLD!
    I can’t see straight.
    But, know that I’m not about that misandry :-D
    Have a fun weekend


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Ah I’m a homophobe now. Thanks for that.

    Let's look at the evidence...

    Your view on an incident where two gay men were beaten with hurls:
    Straight lads get hidings as well.


    Your view on a prominent gay pub having its window smashed on Pride weekend - by a brick with a homophobic message on it:
    Seems made up to me


    If you don't want to be perceived as a homophobe, then maybe you should engage in a (what I suspect would be very fucking rare) moment of introspection, and consider exactly why you feel the need to downplay a homophobic attack, or deny that an incident of homophobic vandalism even happened.

    Yes, it's fair to say that gay people generally have it easier nowadays than twenty or thirty years ago, but to suggest that Pride is unnecessary or that homophobic attacks are no longer something to be feared in this country is to ignore the lived experiences of gay people. And that takes a fuck-load of arrogance - the sort of arrogance that only privilege can bring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,860 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Think they had a bit of bother there tonight, someone threw a rock through the window with an anti gay message on it. Bad form!! ,

    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/06/30/pride-me-sideways/

    O'Neill is going to be dining out on that particular trauma for the foreseeable I fear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Back when the George was vandalised it was headline news and commentators telling us that everyone is homophobic. Turned out it was just one teenager in a badger costume with mental health Issues.

    Probably the same scenario with the Panti Bar stone through the window.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Think they had a bit of bother there tonight, someone threw a rock through the window with an anti gay message on it. Bad form!! ,

    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/06/30/pride-me-sideways/

    Maybe it was thrown in because yer man is an annoying bollox :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Try_harder


    seachto7 wrote: »
    Maybe it was thrown in because yer man is an annoying bollox :)

    But they didn't know what that was in Irish...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Think they had a bit of bother there tonight, someone threw a rock through the window with an anti gay message on it. Bad form!! ,

    https://www.broadsheet.ie/2018/06/30/pride-me-sideways/

    That's a fancy looking brick


  • Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How about you stop commenting on issues you clearly know nothing about and realize your privilege?

    If the answer is no, then that is your privilege.

    . And that takes a ****-load of arrogance - the sort of arrogance that only privilege can bring.

    Get t**** with your privilege nonsense. You have no idea what goes on in other people's lives. It reminds me of that whole "punch up, never punch down" victim mentality rule in comedy.

    If you feel you can judge someone and declare that they have "privilege" based purely on their colour/gender or orientation then frankly you are the bigot.

    Check your privilege? Don't you dare assume my life experiences.


  • Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Let's look at the evidence...

    Your view on an incident where two gay men were beaten with hurls:




    Your view on a prominent gay pub having its window smashed on Pride weekend - by a brick with a homophobic message on it:




    If you don't want to be perceived as a homophobe, then maybe you should engage in a (what I suspect would be very fucking rare) moment of introspection, and consider exactly why you feel the need to downplay a homophobic attack, or deny that an incident of homophobic vandalism even happened.

    Yes, it's fair to say that gay people generally have it easier nowadays than twenty or thirty years ago, but to suggest that Pride is unnecessary or that homophobic attacks are no longer something to be feared in this country is to ignore the lived experiences of gay people. And that takes a fuck-load of arrogance -

    In agreement with nearly all of that.
    the sort of arrogance that only privilege can bring.

    That last line irks me terribly though. Privilege. I can't abide that. I'm privileged because I happen to like people of the opposite sex? I'm privileged because there's a minority of wanker that pick on people that are different to them? I think the only ones that deserve any label are the pricks that are harassing gay people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,046 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Did some gobshite really tell somebody else to check their privilege?

    This is a parody right?


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