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From the Pantibar!!!

  • 29-06-2018 09:34PM
    #1
    Atoms for Peace
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    Seriously RTE, reporting on the issues facing lgbt youths from outside a bar?
    What next abortion legislation from copper faced jacks, probably due the mainstream media obsession with the place.
    Not trying to be offensive but it does seem to trivialise the issue.


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  • #2
    Conservatory
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    Issues facing them?
    I had a discussion with a fellow builder about how great it was two lads walking by the site could safely walk up the street holding hands today.

    Ten years ago people would have attacked them.

    What issues do they have now?


  • #3
    [Deleted User]
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    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    Seriously RTE, reporting on the issues facing lgbt youths from outside a bar?
    What next abortion legislation from copper faced jacks, probably due the mainstream media obsession with the place.
    Not trying to be offensive but it does seem to trivialise the issue.

    He's the Queen of Ireland dontcha know


  • #4
    erica74
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    Do we really need another LGBT and Pride related thread? I think the annual quota has been used up already.


  • #5
    yesto24
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    Conservatory wrote: »
    Issues facing them?
    I had a discussion with a fellow builder about how great it was two lads walking by the site could safely walk up the street holding hands today.

    Ten years ago people would have attacked them.

    What issues do they have now?

    You do realise 10 years ago was 2008?
    Things were not that bad then.
    Even 20 years ago I don't think that would have happened.


  • #6
    Conservatory
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    yesto24 wrote: »
    You do realise 10 years ago was 2008?
    Things were not that bad then.
    Even 20 years ago I don't think that would have happened.

    You think two lads could walk down a road in the middle of kinehan territory holding hands ten years ago with nobody batting an eyelid?


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  • #7
    SEPT 23 1989
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    The mustache parade?


  • #8
    yesto24
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    Conservatory wrote: »
    You think two lads could walk down a road in the middle of kinehan territory holding hands ten years ago with nobody batting an eyelid?

    No.
    But you said they would be attcked.
    And wow, you really live life on the edge, you are working in the middle of Kinehan territory.


  • #9
    Conservatory
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    yesto24 wrote: »
    No.
    But you said they would be attcked.
    And wow, you really live life on the edge, you are working in the middle of Kinehan territory.

    Yes there are loads of hotels being built in kinehan territory at the moment. Havnt you noticed?


  • #10
    seachto7
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    If they just stop having pride weekend then everybody is treated the same and just gets on with things?


  • #11
    yesto24
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    Conservatory wrote: »
    Yes there are loads of hotels being built in kinehan territory at the moment. Havnt you noticed?

    Sarcasm.
    Once again gone over your head.


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  • #12
    Cupcake_Crisis
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    Conservatory wrote: »
    Issues facing them?
    I had a discussion with a fellow builder about how great it was two lads walking by the site could safely walk up the street holding hands today.

    Ten years ago people would have attacked them.

    What issues do they have now?

    Two gay guys got the unholy crap beaten out of them this week with hurls. So... lots of issues.


  • #13
    mloc123
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    He's the Queen of Ireland dontcha know

    And the official spokesman for all things gay...


  • #14
    Conservatory
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    Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »
    Two gay guys got the unholy crap beaten out of them this week with hurls. So... lots of issues.

    Straight lads get hidings as well. You know there’s all this stuff about violence against gays and violence about women but straight men getting hit never gets reported much.

    I’d say more gay men and women get beaten by their partners these days than get beaten by homophobes.


  • #15
    AllForIt
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    Atoms for Peace wrote: »
    Seriously RTE, reporting on the issues facing lgbt youths from outside a bar?
    What next abortion legislation from copper faced jacks, probably due the mainstream media obsession with the place.
    Not trying to be offensive but it does seem to trivialise the issue.

    Look, if the reporter was in India with the Taj Mahal in the background I would get you confusion with the relevance...but not for a gay bar.


  • #16
    ohnonotgmail
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    Conservatory wrote: »
    Straight lads get hidings as well. You know there’s all this stuff about violence against gays and violence about women but straight men getting hit never gets reported much.

    I’d say more gay men and women get beaten by their partners these days than get beaten by homophobes.

    Do straight lads get hidings BECAUSE they are straight? Not really a comparison is it?


  • #17
    Conservatory
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Do straight lads get hidings BECAUSE they are straight? Not really a comparison is it?

    Probably because they are lads.


  • #18
    ohnonotgmail
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    Conservatory wrote: »
    Probably because they are lads.

    Come back to us when straight guys are getting hidings from gay guys because they are straight. Then you will have a valid comparison to discuss. I really can believe that anybody needs something this simple explained to them.


  • #19
    Cupcake_Crisis
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    Conservatory wrote: »
    Straight lads get hidings as well. You know there’s all this stuff about violence against gays and violence about women but straight men getting hit never gets reported much.

    I’d say more gay men and women get beaten by their partners these days than get beaten by homophobes.

    So that makes it ok? Because straight people occasionally get hopped on it’s ok that gay people get hopped on BECAUSE they’re gay?


  • #20
    Cody montana
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    Conservatory wrote: »
    Probably because they are lads.

    What the hell are you on about?


  • #21
    Berserker
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    Nice bit of free publicity for Pantibar. Didn't realise the parade was tomorrow. Was planning on heading into the city centre to get a few things but no point now. The traffic will be a disaster.


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  • #22
    Conservatory
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    Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »
    So that makes it ok? Because straight people occasionally get hopped on it’s ok that gay people get hopped on BECAUSE they’re gay?

    There’s mental people out there. A few headbangers who are going to get in a fight. If it wasn’t the gay fella it’d be the fella who looked at him or the fella who robbed his drink. The average joe doesn’t give who people sleep with much thought anymore.

    I’d say a gay fella now is as likely to get a dig off a nutter on his way through temple bar at 4am as a straight fella.

    This isn’t an issue facing gay people it’s an issue facing all people


  • #23
    Conservatory
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    I’m just reading up on that attack and it’s just as likely they were beaten because they were foreign.

    Do you honestly think the scumbags headed out in port Laois at night with hurls Incase they bumped into a gay? They were going to attack somebody


  • #24
    Cupcake_Crisis
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    Conservatory wrote: »
    There’s mental people out there. A few headbangers who are going to get in a fight. If it wasn’t the gay fella it’d be the fella who looked at him or the fella who robbed his drink. The average joe doesn’t give who people sleep with much thought anymore.

    I’d say a gay fella now is as likely to get a dig off a nutter on his way through temple bar at 4am as a straight fella.

    This isn’t an issue facing gay people it’s an issue facing all people

    And that post right there, and the ignorance within it, is why we still need a pride month.


  • #25
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Do straight lads get hidings BECAUSE they are straight? Not really a comparison is it?

    I'm wondering if perhaps you're making their sexuality an issue, or they did to gain sympathy. They could have been beaten up because they were assholes.

    Gay guys can cause trouble for themselves just as much as straight guys... and it not be related to their sexuality.


  • #26
    Conservatory
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    Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »
    And that post right there, and the ignorance within it, is why we still need a pride month.

    The pride industry needs a pride month.


  • #27
    yesto24
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    Conservatory wrote: »
    I’m just reading up on that attack and it’s just as likely they were beaten because they were foreign.

    Do you honestly think the scumbags headed out in port Laois at night with hurls Incase they bumped into a gay? They were going to attack somebody

    I have to agree. I just read the report as well.
    They were beaten because they were there.
    The fact that they were gay might be a little bonus for the scum that did it but was not the main reason.


  • #28
    yesto24
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    Cupcake_Crisis wrote: »
    And that post right there, and the ignorance within it, is why we still need a pride month.

    I don't agree. Stop trying to be a victim.


  • #29
    Cupcake_Crisis
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    yesto24 wrote: »
    I don't agree. Stop trying to be a victim.

    I’m not a victim, I’m not gay, I’ve never been discriminated against because of my sexuality as a straight woman. But that doesn’t mean I’m not very aware that that discrimination exists


  • #30
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    erica74 wrote: »
    Do we really need another LGBT and Pride related thread? I think the annual quota has been used up already.

    We need it, tomorrow is Gay Christmas, where's your festive queer cheer?

    In all honestly, if I saw anyone abusing two lads for simply holding hands I'd love nothing more than to go over and smash their bigoted faces in. I'm glad society has moved on leaps and bounds but I'm not daft enough to think everything is all rosey either for gay peeps. I'd love the day that a major sports star being gay simply isn't really news.

    On the other hand, one thing I will say is miss me what all that OTT stereotypical ''shut up bitch'' carry-on. That sh*t is parody level stuff and I've no time for it.


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  • #31
    Conservatory
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    So what are the issues facing yong gay people today?


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