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What will be the "turns out cigarettes are bad for us" of this generation?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭Gazzmonkey


    wally79 wrote: »
    Vaping is bad but I reckon it will hold true that it is better than smoking

    I agree but one thing to say for cigs... they don't blow the teeth out of your skull like vaping yolks do when they explode.

    God those vaping injuries look horrific, some folk even lost their lips too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Phibsboro wrote: »

    The less obvious one I think is racing animals (horse racing/greyhound racing). If you look at it as though it had never been a thing, the idea that we would get sport out of rearing and training animals to carry us round a track in a race is... barbaric? A coming generation will be as appalled as we are now when we look back at animal circuses or, going further back, bear baiting as entertainment.

    I think racing horses esp. has too much money wrapped up in it with breeding, events and betting to be threatened in any way. Think dog racing may be on the decline...here at any rate. Hare coursing was huge here years ago, now it's kind of a niche thing that only shows up on the pages of local newspapers.

    Circuses were moving with public tastes and legislation. The traditional circus is up against a lot of competition from other forms of entertainment and may be a thing of the past soon.
    Zoos or wildlife parks may have a role in safeguarding animals whose habitats are threatened or simply gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,725 ✭✭✭xtal191


    Rimming


  • Posts: 3,251 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    “Alt” right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    The answer is SUGAR.

    I've been off it eight weeks today. I'm down two stone in that time.

    Well done.
    how do you manage to totally avoid it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Grayson wrote: »
    maybe they're the same but you lost your hearing.

    I sit at the soundboard for quite a few shows as well. Almost all clubs/venues have restrictions on the decibel levels that they allow. I haven't been to too many shows that have exceeded over 100db in the past 20 years (there have been a few exceptions.

    I have had my hearing checked a few times in the last ten years. There is some hearing loss, but it is consistent with my age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,085 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Sunscreen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Gwen Cooper


    Sunscreen

    You mean being bad for you? Or bad that we're not using it? Because if it's the first one, I've never heard this conspiracy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,154 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    Well done.
    how do you manage to totally avoid it?

    I grew up in the States and had a full on addiction to Coke/Pepsi. My wife jokes it was my "drug of choice". I never went anywhere without making sure that I had a few cans/bottles with me. It was absolute insanity.

    Complete change in lifestyle is the easiest way to describe it.

    I am not 100% free from all sugar. I get 3g of sugar in a protein bar that I have for breakfast, as well as 200ml of whole milk.

    Reading labels on processed food was eye opening. I also keep a food diary with an app on my phone.

    Other than that it a lot of protein and green veg.

    I have to admit that I feel great and am actually enjoying it.


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Shltty footwear.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,160 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    You mean being bad for you? Or bad that we're not using it? Because if it's the first one, I've never heard this conspiracy

    That's what I was going to post.
    Using it.
    I've never heard a theory about it but it wouldn't surprise me if in years to come people will marvel at the fact we used to even put that **** on children!

    Ps, I use sunblock but I can't help wondering if it is poisonous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭erica74


    People still aren't taking warnings about skin cancer seriously, it's already the most common form of cancer in Ireland and people still think it's hilarious and "so Irish" to go around like lobsters. Sun damage is caused by uv rays which are present every day, 365 days of the year, even when it's not "sunny".

    Plastic, there's still too much being used, far far too much, and the vast majority of organisations don't care about reducing their use. I also think that poor water quality in a lot of areas of Ireland causes people to rely heavily on bottled water, which also isn't helping the plastic problem. I read recently that there is a water refill scheme being rolled out in Ireland whereby you can refill your water bottles either for free or for a small fee. The government need to go one step further and introduce plastic bottle recycling facilities. They have them in Europe and they're very successful.

    Obesity still isn't being taken seriously enough and if you think the "obesity epidemic" is bad now, imagine what it will be like in 50 years. People still don't understand enough about nutrition, food, what their body needs, drinking water, sleep hygiene etc. There is so many educational resources now but people continue to choose what's convenient over what's healthy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭erica74


    That's what I was going to post.
    Using it.
    I've never heard a theory about it but it wouldn't surprise me if in years to come people will marvel at the fact we used to even put that **** on children!

    Ps, I use sunblock but I can't help wondering if it is poisonous.

    It's not just for children;)

    What makes you think it's bad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 719 ✭✭✭Gwen Cooper


    That's what I was going to post.
    Using it.
    I've never heard a theory about it but it wouldn't surprise me if in years to come people will marvel at the fact we used to even put that **** on children!

    Ps, I use sunblock but I can't help wondering if it is poisonous.

    I don't know. I would rather be using sun cream than getting skin cancer and watching my nose fall off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Most music made in the last ten or fifteen years is capable of doing serious hearing damage. I don't mean this in an old fogey complaining about modern music way. This is happening to all music. Record companies assume music is going to be listened to by a teenager on a phone through shitty earphones so they mix the music to have more 'punch'. They compress everything and remove all the dynamics so everything is just constantly loud.

    I ripped my copies of the original Nevermind CD and a 2011 reissue to demonstrate. Nirvana were always loud but this is something else. The top picture is Smells Like Teen Spirit from the original CD and the bottom is from 2011.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,160 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I don't know. I would rather be using sun cream than getting skin cancer and watching my nose fall off.

    I added, that I do use it.
    I just can't help wondering about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 652 ✭✭✭jjpep


    Cars used for commuting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,160 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Most music made in the last ten or fifteen years is capable of doing serious hearing damage. I don't mean this in an old fogey complaining about modern music way. This is happening to all music. Record companies assume music is going to be listened to by a teenager on a phone through shitty earphones so they mix the music to have more 'punch'. They compress everything and remove all the dynamics so everything is just constantly loud.

    I ripped my copies of the original Nevermind CD and a 2011 reissue to demonstrate. Nirvana were always loud but this is something else. The top picture is Smells Like Teen Spirit from the original CD and the bottom is from 2011.

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    454575.jpg

    While compressing music like that might well ruin it due to lack of dynamics, there would be less peaks to damage hearing.
    Listening level is determined by the listener, not the mastering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,661 ✭✭✭fxotoole


    E-cigarettes / vaping


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Smartphones and longer working days with people "always on" due to work laptops and phones meaning less time with family and increased stress levels.

    This is a realtively new phenomenon and the full effects will take a while to be seen but I believe companies eventually will be forced to act in favour of their staffs wellbeing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    While compressing music like that might well ruin it due to lack of dynamics, there would be less peaks to damage hearing.
    Listening level is determined by the listener, not the mastering.

    It's constant noise in your ear with no let up. It's especially excruciating if you listen through headphones. I've listened to that CD only once because it wreaked havoc with my head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,160 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    It's constant noise in your ear with no let up. It's especially excruciating if you listen through headphones. I've listened to that CD only once because it wreaked havoc with my head.

    I would have thought that that may cause fatigue but that it's the peaks that cause hearing damage.
    I could be wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,093 ✭✭✭✭adox


    I think there’s a lot of hysteria about plastic. It comes in many shapes and forms. We have actually been living in the plastic age.

    Most plastics and plastic products are fully recyclable and many of them now as food containers are already made up of 30-40% recycled plastic. If the right infrastructure was in place and people recycled more, plastic is a very sustainable product to use.

    That’s not to ignore the problem with the likes of plastic lidding film and the plastic linings in coffe cups etc. but I think the whole plastic debate that has popped up over the last couple of years has been painted with a very broad and simplistic black and white brush view that is boarderinf on misinformation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Most music made in the last ten or fifteen years is capable of doing serious hearing damage. I don't mean this in an old fogey complaining about modern music way. This is happening to all music. Record companies assume music is going to be listened to by a teenager on a phone through shitty earphones so they mix the music to have more 'punch'. They compress everything and remove all the dynamics so everything is just constantly loud.

    I ripped my copies of the original Nevermind CD and a 2011 reissue to demonstrate. Nirvana were always loud but this is something else. The top picture is Smells Like Teen Spirit from the original CD and the bottom is from 2011.

    454576.jpg

    454575.jpg

    Just looks like somebody didn't know what they were doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭erica74


    adox wrote: »
    I think there’s a lot of hysteria about plastic. It comes in many shapes and forms. We have actually been living in the plastic age.

    Most plastics and plastic products are fully recyclable and many of them now as food containers are already made up of 30-40% recycled plastic. If the right infrastructure was in place and people recycled more, plastic is a very sustainable product to use.

    That’s not to ignore the problem with the likes of plastic lidding film and the plastic linings in coffe cups etc. but I think the whole plastic debate that has popped up over the last couple of years has been painted with a very broad and simplistic black and white brush view that is boarderinf on misinformation.

    That's the problem, the right infrastructure isn't in place and people and organisations don't recycle enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭flas


    That is a big one. I'd go with this.
    Children being farmed out to institutional care facilities while their mother goes off to work all day = not good and I think although it will be difficult to discuss it in the future, generally even when unpalatable, it will come out.

    I think women who choose to stay home and mind/ educate/ rear their children should hold their heads high. It is a good decision.

    This keads into what an earlier poster said and capitalism, well late stage capitalism like we are in now,they are linked,people,well most people cant afford to only have one income coning into a household now,it has destroyed the social structure of family as we know it, there will be a huge look back going how did that happen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    ....... wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    The way prescription medication is handed out willy nilly in the western world is frightning. Big Pharma are the biggest drug pedlers on the planet.

    Something like a third of the population are on something.


    I've a realitive who has been on sleeping meds for 15 years.


    There's links to onset of early dementia from long term sleeping medication use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Medical advances that keep people alive, who would otherwise not survive, are great at an individual level. I would be the first to avail of anything that's going. But ultimately this will lead to the extinction of the human race because it it contravenes the first rule of evolution, (the survival of the fittest). If we stop evolving, we will die out in the long run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,250 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Social media.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,478 ✭✭✭wexie


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Medical advances that keep people alive, who would otherwise not survive, are great at an individual level. I would be the first to avail of anything that's going.

    I was with you up to here.
    Roger_007 wrote: »
    But ultimately this will lead to the extinction of the human race because it it contravenes the first rule of evolution, (the survival of the fittest). If we stop evolving, we will die out in the long run.

    No it won't. Evolution happens by new people being born, not by old people dying


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