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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    gmacww wrote: »
    It's not a 24hr bus lane though it's only active from 7am. So up to that point it's fair game for cars so wands are not ideal in that situation. That being said I do cycle that way every day and regardless of the time, yes it's a complete mess. Strangely if I'm in the car I find it faster to get over the bridge if I stay in the right lane. Two many cars in the left/bus lane.

    Good point but in reality it should just be a 24hr bus lane.
    CramCycle wrote: »
    Can anyone explain the logic of non 24 hour bus lanes? They are bus lanes during rush hour, but outside of peak times, traffic isn't busy enough to warrant their use, so it is a pointless difference. There are parts of the N11 that flit between timed and 24hour, awfully stupid.

    Yeah seems a lot of people dont realise you're supposed to drive in them out of hours but, like cycle tracks, it doesnt make sense they're only in use at certain times. Cycling through Ranelagh or Rathmines out of hours is stressful when the cycle lane is covered in parked cars.

    Then there are "Bus lane not in use" signs in some places (around dundrum is one) where they've built them but dont use them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Can anyone explain the logic of non 24 hour bus lanes? They are bus lanes during rush hour, but outside of peak times, traffic isn't busy enough to warrant their use, so it is a pointless difference. There are parts of the N11 that flit between timed and 24hour, awfully stupid.

    Its the same with cycle lanes.

    If you allow an inch people take a mile. A clear never is much better and would negate the need for BusConnects.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭benjamin d



    Then there are "Bus lane not in use" signs in some places (around dundrum is one) where they've built them but dont use them.

    I actually agree with the bus lane not in use signs from dundrum towards the m50 because the way the lanes join the roundabouts there is stupid and it would be a complete shambles otherwise. It's not often I agree with letting cars have more road!

    As for Ranelagh and Rathmines the guards should be out shooting fish in a barrel there all day every day.

    We really to have the law tightened on what double yellows and cycle lanes actually represent. I believe it's currently legal to load and unload on double yellows for up to 30 minutes. Huge swathes of Dublin should be covered in double red lines like the UK has to really clarify that there's no stopping there.

    Hatch markings are completely ignored. Mandatory cycle lanes and advanced stop boxes don't exist to most drivers. Yellow boxes the same. Most drivers care so little that they genuinely don't even register those road markings. One short campaign of ruthless enforcement would go a long way and would be cost neutral for the guards, or likely a great money maker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,662 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Can anyone explain the logic of non 24 hour bus lanes? They are bus lanes during rush hour, but outside of peak times, traffic isn't busy enough to warrant their use, so it is a pointless difference. There are parts of the N11 that flit between timed and 24hour, awfully stupid.
    The logic, fwiw, on the N11 is the 24 hour section was a change of use from hard shoulder to bus lane, and that's why it's 24 hour. Where as further in it was always bus lane. Doesn't make sense to me, but i believe that is the reasoning. I think there was some road near the airport that was constantly questioned as to why it had a bus lane, and no active bus routes, and that was also the same reasoning.

    Another reason to go 24 hours the whole way in is that 7am is too late in the peak traffic winter months, on the N11 anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,604 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    maybe BusConnects will sort these anomalies out, if it ever happens.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    1850 during college term is crazy on the N11 as one in three cars start to swing in, it is pointless and stupid.

    There should be no reasoning, they are all 24hours, simples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,854 ✭✭✭Rogue-Trooper


    ED E wrote: »
    Its the same with cycle lanes.

    If you allow an inch people take a mile.


    On this, I was in Howth yesterday and counted 33 cars parked in the cycle lane on the way into the village.



    Apparently it's ok once it's sunny...... :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,718 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Then there are "Bus lane not in use" signs in some places (around dundrum is one) where they've built them but dont use them.
    benjamin d wrote: »
    I actually agree with the bus lane not in use signs from dundrum towards the m50 because the way the lanes join the roundabouts there is stupid and it would be a complete shambles otherwise. It's not often I agree with letting cars have more road!
    I remember when these lanes were built hearing a story that there was come funding provided by DTO or NTA for the bus-lane bit of the road that wouldn't have been otherwise available - not sure how true it was.

    It's handy for the locals at weekends, as the 'tourists' tend to stick to the outside lanes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭rodneyTrotter.


    ED E wrote: »
    Its the same with cycle lanes.

    If you allow an inch people take a mile.


    On this, I was in Howth yesterday and counted 33 cars parked in the cycle lane on the way into the village.


    Apparently it's ok once it's sunny...... :mad:


    Yeah, it’s becoming the norm on busy or sunny days out there . Seen it quite a bit this year .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭dreamerb


    Idiot pedestrian walking on road in front of me this morning panicked on seeing me taking evasive action, and nearly flew into my front wheel.

    Yes literally. Pigeon :D


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 42,876 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Taxi flew past me on the Ballyowen road this morning. Scared the bejaysus outta me.
    Caught up with him when he was stopped at lights at Griffeen Ave and, somewhat un-diplomatically of me, told him what I thought of him and his driving! He was completely oblivious to me and I know that he had no idea what I was ranting about.
    Professional driver me arse!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,881 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Taxi flew past me on the Ballyowen road this morning. Scared the bejaysus outta me.
    Caught up with him when he was stopped at lights at Griffeen Ave and, somewhat un-diplomatically of me, told him what I thought of him and his driving! He was completely oblivious to me and I know that he had no idea what I was ranting about.
    Professional driver me arse!

    He will eventually get caught on that road, plenty of speed checks on that road


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    dreamerb wrote: »
    Idiot pedestrian walking on road in front of me this morning panicked on seeing me taking evasive action, and nearly flew into my front wheel.

    Yes literally. Pigeon :D
    Last weekend on the Royal Canal I was going under the bridge near Croke Park and a rat ran across in front of me and jumped into the canal. It could have easily been me that ended up in the water :D


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Shame on me this morning, left hooked by a car. I slowed to let the indicating cars turn and the car beside me flicked on the indicator as they turned. I stopped and let out a "f*ck s*ke". Then promptly turned to the Lollipop lady at the side of the road surrounded by kids and apologised profusely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭'68 Fastback


    Heading towards St. Stephen's Green on Kevin St. yesterday morning when a man, fully engaged with his phone, steps into the cycle lane to cross between the stopped cars. I was pretty far away from him but I nearly came off the bike with the laughing as he walked into the jib of a mini digger on the back of the city council truck he was crossing behind but not bothered to look at. No helmet on him either, gave himself a right whack on the noggin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭comanche_cor


    Clipped by another cyclist this morning, traveling at a decent pace, while I was stopped at a red light for a pedestrian crossing on the north strand road!

    If they made the conscious decision to break the read light but couldn't see me, not sure how they could see any pedestrian crossing!! Think this good weather is bringing out all the nutters :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,177 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Last weekend on the Royal Canal I was going under the bridge near Croke Park and a rat ran across in front of me and jumped into the canal. It could have easily been me that ended up in the water :D
    I had to cycle across Paris at 4 am once to get a bus to the airport, good cycle lanes but I was like Moses parting a sea of rats in some places, that city is infested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭irishrover99


    Nearly brown bread today after a very close call with a Johnson Mooney 40 foot lorry after it overtook me just before the bend on Barnhill road heading towards Clonnee.
    He nearly hit the oncoming car coming around the corner so he had to pull back in before he had completely overtook me and the trailer nearly creamed me.
    I'm blessed as that road is in bits with the double man hole covers all the way up the road so their is no room for a mistake.
    I chased after him but he floored it knowing i was after him and didn't get the reg but i rang them straight away and i assumed that he was on his way back to the yard which isn't far away so hopefully they know who it is.
    The lady took my number and details and said someone would ring me back and said the lorries have GPS fitted.
    Its going to take more than a few burger buns for me to let this go.

    I did get 3rd overall on the segment chasing him and that was into a headwind(confirmed by windsock) so it would be nice if i could use rage like that more often.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,386 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    ah, but you had the benefit of drafting a lorry!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭irishrover99


    ah, but you had the benefit of drafting a lorry!

    It was just too far away otherwise it could have been a KOM.
    Wish i had got the reg number.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Internet Friend


    Approaching my parents house this evening on this road, called Loughlinstown Road locally. White van behind me tries to overtake me ~150m from my parents house but has to back off because of oncoming traffic. The view of the driveway is slightly obstructed so I always signal earlier than normal and get into a defensive position centrally in the (unmarked) lane. I'm signalling that I'm turning right for maybe 5 seconds of so. As soon as I take my hand down and begin to make my turn the white van (nothing against white vans) behind me starts to try to overtake me :eek: He jams on and swerves up my left narrowly missing me as I turn into the driveway.

    Was pretty shaken after it and didn't catch his reg, but I never realised how many variations of the word f*ck could be fit into the one (roared) sentence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,859 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    On this, I was in Howth yesterday and counted 33 cars parked in the cycle lane on the way into the village.



    Apparently it's ok once it's sunny...... :mad:


    Its the "cars take precedent over all else" mentality. It sucks :mad:

    Reminds me of the Father Stack (Brendan Grace) in Fr Ted - "I've had my fun, and thats all that matters". It was funny because it was nail on the head as regarding certain mentalities in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭Eamonnator


    On this, I was in Howth yesterday and counted 33 cars parked in the cycle lane on the way into the village.



    Apparently it's ok once it's sunny...... :mad:

    I think it's OK as well, if occupants are going to divine service


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Two close passes in castleknock this morning. Taking primary and had some ball bag in a builders van skim me, forcing the oncoming car to swerve into the bus lane. Fifty meters on an not to be outdone had a second van does the same thing. Except he just seemed to do it for the craic - no oncoming vehicles. I guess my life is worth less than someone’s en suite or a new kitchen.

    Had a taxi undertake me in the bus / cycle lane from O’connell bridge yesterday evening. Stupid move as he had to swerve out again to avoid the parked bus. Also travelling well in excess of the 30 kph limit. But sure he’s a taxi. Wouldn’t expect less from him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭queldy


    Had recently moved to Smithfield, so instead of commuting the canal (which I thought it was the worse), I need now to commute part of the river, college green, Candem street - whatever I try, it is a mess. During pick hours it is almost a suicide. So it is a few weeks that I have decided (and I am not very happy with it, but I live with it) to walk or use a small foldable bike to use some inertia (instead of walking only) and make my commute slighlty shorter.
    The idea is, or was until today, to cycle at no more than 10km/h (due to small gears and weird manouvrability) - take my time, enjoy the viewing around, smile at people, stop everytime it becomes uncomfortable and push the bike until it is safe to cycle again. It implies use sometimes the footpath - I have decided to finish work later so that I can avoid rush hours and just take a breath, going home slowly. I (when I drive, ride or walk) give always right of way to pedestrians, I have never got into dangerous situation for others (for me yes, falling a few time from my racing bike, but that was dangerous for me only). Long story short, I try to make my life and the others on the road better. It never works of course, but I work on myself at least.

    Today (like half an hour ago) the funniest of the things happened. The funniest ever.

    So I was going home, so slow you cannot even imagine, I am on Kildare street. On the cycling path, very slow, 2 taxis passing at speed - I don't feel safe,, it's very narrow there. Bus roaring ready to pass, I move left, it is very very narrow, roaring again, he decides to pass. Danger... ok, it happens. Not the first time in Dublin.
    I see the footpath is completely free, so due to my very limited speed (it is really, like walking but with some inertia), I take the footpath.
    I cycle so slow, I forgot already about taxis and bus, I take my phone to check a message (yes, I shouldn't I agree), as soon as I arrive in front of the Archeological Musweem (is that what is it? there are always two guars in front there), I see a guard moving from left to right, I approach closer and he steps jumping in front of me. I put my leg down (mind, I didn't need to break, I just put my leg down... it was very slow!).
    I ask sorry, surprised, I go back a bit to change route - he steps in front of me.

    So guard **** decided tonight to be the cowboy!
    After all this he starts "what is that? the road? or a footpath?"
    I took the arrpoach "I am sorry, accept my apologies I will step down on the road and continue there - I was going walking slow, not endangering anyone. I apologise"
    He insists "this is a footpath, and you shouldnt cycle on it and watching your phone"
    So I insist calmly (and I know here the cowboy is provoking me) "I apologise, I was not endangering anyone and I will continue on the road". I added a "I wish you were so strict with taxi drivers, bus drivers, car drivers and everyone else, I was not endangering anyone and it looked to me you first gently gave me space and the you stepped in front o f me to create a false danger"

    So there he goes, proof of identification, addrrees, fine issued for incorrect behaviour to public official. I pointed out sometimes it is safer for cyclist to go on the path, at sloe speed without danger for others,because 95% of the time the cycling paths are occupied by vehicles. (wait for it...)

    I reply to all his questions, I get the fine. I tak ehis number and I thank him for his services (no really, I really said "thank you", and not in a sarcastic way).
    I start moving on the cycling path, car passes me at speed at stops on the left, occupying the FULL cycling path.

    I gently slow down, and I queue behind the car. Another police man gets out of the car "are you ok???". I reply that I am ok, and I am just waiting to have space on the cycling path to proceed on my way.
    He starts in a very rude attacking way "get out of the way, I need to park on the left there. Get out of the way and that's all"
    So I say "I just have been told to cycle here from one of your colleagues, which issued me a fine for not cycling on this path. I am patiently waiting for free way, I am not in a rush and I don't mean to offend you in any way"
    The asnwer was "get out of the way plus a few other sentecnes I couldnt get - strong Irish accent iis difficult for us sometimes.
    In the meanwhile the a third police man came there suggesting me to shut up and go away.

    The cowboys tonight. A full new experience to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Its always fúcking beamers......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Wish the gardai were more vigilant on the blatant abuse of the bus lane at arran quay the other morning. Three of them parked on their mountain bikes on the path outside the spar there. Private cars whizzed down the bus lane without a jot of attention. Maybe it was the start of a Garda group spin?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,999 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Pinch Flat wrote: »
    Wish the gardai were more vigilant on the blatant abuse of the bus lane at arran quay the other morning. Three of them parked on their mountain bikes on the path outside the spar there. Private cars whizzed down the bus lane without a jot of attention. Maybe it was the start of a Garda group spin?

    I realise that would be the ideal scenario but to be fair, they were probably assigned to other duties. It is one of the main reasons I would have made a terrible Garda, I wouldn't be able to hold back my ego from the blatant up yours the cars are giving them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Cyclist vs Coach in town.
    In the city centre, emergency services are dealing with an incident on Dame St at the Trinity St jct blocking one lane towards Christchurch, with delays both ways.
    Collision on Dame st at trinityt st outbound Coach and cyclist delays to both outbound and inbound please drive with care.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭williestroker1


    Close call on O'Donovan Rossa Bridge this morning. Took the middle lane as I was turning right down the Quays. Black Merc in the right hand swerves out to within inches of me. Had the swerve left to avoid been taken out. Of course caught up with him due to the usual traffic on the Quays. Told him he was way too close back there. Wouldn't even look at me, just kept staring straight ahead.
    Middle-age men in Merc's.:o


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