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Werewolf XXVIII - Eastenders

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  • #962
    Clodagh WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Brendan WW wrote: »
    Those who have died so far:

    Katie (munched) - Katie was a Villager, hopefully NRV, who was killed seemingly for claiming to know who wolves were as early as day 1 began. Probably a false claim but nobody else had made themselves a target. Again hopefully a NRV intentionally drawing heat on themselves to avoid a worse loss.

    Steve (shot) - Claimed to have a gun, seemed to be the case and I believed good but was shot before he could potentially use said gun. Grant did the shooting and atm we believe Grant to be most likely good so he obviously didn't think Steve was on the level. Maybe he recieved his gun at the same time Steve claimed to and assumed he was lying and had to be a wolf. Later flavor suggests the number of wolves and if it is to be believed Steve probably wasn't a wolf

    Mary (Lynched) - It'd be great if Mary was a wolf but it's impossible to know without a priest, hopefully she would not have acted as she did if a roled goodie so it should be at worst (and what I'm guessing) a NRV but one that would be less of a loss than others given the lack of effort.

    Desmond (Munched) - Villager or at least SK team given how he died but I would suspect he was targetted because he was the most obvious candidate for being Grant, who we are working off being good, given his arguement with Steve who was then shot by Grant. Again I would hope the real Grant would not be goading a potential imposter in terms of having a gun. They could still shoot them as they did without heat by not getting involved. So im hoping NRV


    I honestly think 4 NRVs have been hit so far but there is the potential imo for 1 wolf, probably Mary) and Grant having died.

    Would you or anyone else be interested in doing an analysis on who Steve was talking to and targeting before he was shot? I dont remember this being done.


  • #963
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Ewan WW wrote: »
    Gabriel WW, you had a blocked vote and also threw out the banana gun story. A lot of things to be happening around one person, no?

    I can’t undertand why anybody would want to block my vote. I didn’t give an FFA or any indication of who I was voting for and didn’t target anybody. Angus vote was also blocked so somebody has or had the power to block two people’s votes. Only thing I can think of is , like why somebody might shoot Steve, a goody thinking I was bad and wanted to put shade on me or a baddy thinking I was good and wanted to put shade on me (or deny me a vote). Or perhaps it was somebody who got a power and didn’t have any obvious choice so they chose me cause I did provide a twist in yesterday’s drama.

    Do we know if blocked votes meant they weren’t counted or just blocked from public?

    I was on nobody’s lists on anything and then I came out with the information on Steve’s gun. I’m not sure what bringing so much attention on day 1 would be a great move for any rolled player but I suppose stranger things have happened. I explained the dynamics of the “gift” and think it would of been easier for me to keep quiet and nobody would be the wiser.

    I feel I made the made the most of the power I was given. Gave it to the most vocal who I thought was prob good and when they were Killed I informed the village of the gift and it’s dynamics.


  • #964
    Clodagh WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    I can’t undertand why anybody would want to block my vote. I didn’t give an FFA or any indication of who I was voting for and didn’t target anybody. Angus vote was also blocked so somebody has or had the power to block two people’s votes. Only thing I can think of is , like why somebody might shoot Steve, a goody thinking I was bad and wanted to put shade on me or a baddy thinking I was good and wanted to put shade on me (or deny me a vote). Or perhaps it was somebody who got a power and didn’t have any obvious choice so they chose me cause I did provide a twist in yesterday’s drama.

    Do we know if blocked votes meant they weren’t counted or just blocked from public?

    I was on nobody’s lists on anything and then I came out with the information on Steve’s gun. I’m not sure what bringing so much attention on day 1 would be a great move for any rolled player but I suppose stranger things have happened. I explained the dynamics of the “gift” and think it would of been easier for me to keep quiet and nobody would be the wiser.

    I feel I made the made the most of the power I was given. Gave it to the most vocal who I thought was prob good and when they were Killed I informed the village of the gift and it’s dynamics.

    Alternatively, you gave a wonky gun to a prominent player and (whether you could or not) risked a village player being killed.

    As a result of this, we not only lost the bullet you gave, but potentially a vig bullet, if Steve wasnt a wolf (which it looks like from flavour).

    Can you see how this could be seen as too much of a comedy of errors on your part? Of you trying to generate some goodwill when you didnt really have skin in the game?

    To play devils advocate, what if the wonky gun was a wolf power. You used it, and now are trying to clear yourself with the above interpretation. What do you think of that?


  • #965
    Clodagh WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    *whether you could tell the prominent player about the gun or not


  • #966
    Brendan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    Clodagh WW wrote: »
    Would you or anyone else be interested in doing an analysis on who Steve was talking to and targeting before he was shot? I dont remember this being done.


    I honestly thought someone had done that and listed the people he interacted with in a potentially threatening way with his gun and stunner gifs but that last post of mine was the first time I got to post from a computer today and I also realised my notepad for this game did not save my notes prior to this day! That post above now is all my notes!



    i'm going to see if I can find who / if someone anlysised his posts as that will be easier on my phone than doing it myself but hopefully someone else could look into that too. That said atm I am probably mostly curious about the backfiring gun someone is claiming to have given him. I left that out of my analysis of the dead because it does not really fit for me. Not saying its a wolf lie but it is odd


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  • #967
    Barbara WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    Jake WW wrote: »
    You have nothing.

    You got nothing.

    You have no warrant.

    You have no case.

    Your mom is wide open.

    You think so? You think the great Detective Babs doesn't have a case? Ironically, I was only messing earlier, but I've looked at your posts now, and I think I stumbled upon a lead.
    giphy.gif

    Final chance to confess, Jake. What skeletons are in the closet, huh? You got someone buried under the patio? You afraid of what a search of your internet history might uncover?
    Jake WW wrote: »
    This. If i were a wolf, id wait to kill him though, try get him to shoot a vill or roled goodie

    If? If? You playing with us now? Why do people keep using words like "I" and "wolf" so close together, huh?

    100 percent wolf
    Jake WW wrote: »
    Ah, like the auld days in the Soviet Union
    Jake WW wrote: »
    Wasnt 'Useful Idiot' a term used by the Russian on Homeland to cause problems in the USA, you know the bad wolves....


    Multiple mentions of Russia? Why? You a commie? Has the East End got a Ruskie problem bubbling under? You gonna manipulate the votes tonight too?

    I have a great read of this gameand I'd put the Queen Vic on you being a wolf.

    Jake WW wrote: »
    Your mums wide open
    Jake WW wrote: »
    Your mom is wide open.



    Using the same insult twice? Lazy? Nah, that's Russia AND "ur mum" jokes getting a double reference in your post. Once is a coincidence but repeating two different thematic posts twice?

    Don't have a case? You want the truth? You can't handle the truth, because when you put your hand into a pile of good and its your best friends face, you'll know what to do. Sorry Peggy, it's Walford....and you sir are a wolf!

    So I'll ask again, "Jake", if that even is your real name? Will you confess? Do I need to drag the guys in, kick down the door? Detective Babs has to ask, do you have someone buried under the patio, and a weapon stored in the toilet cistern? Got a lousey alibi of being down the pub when dear Desmond got taken out, do you? Yeah, who is your alibi? Give us the other names of your accomplices.

    You wanna insult my mother? I will bring the wrath of the East End's finest boys in blue right down on top of you!


  • #968
    Brendan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    Ha see thats what posting a long message on your phone does, people are already discussing something well before you finish the post suggesting it could warrant more discussion


  • #969
    Clodagh WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    I think the more people we have looking into whatever leads we have, the better. Seeing your summary post was really good tbh. Everyone should be doing this sort of analysis. Everyone should also remember that we have no cleared players in the village yet. Right now, anyone taking another analysis for granted is being reckless or naive.


  • #970
    Brendan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    Double your mum jokes could be a task, I was killed before when a NRV for a If I were line though so im never going to push others too hard on that phrasing


  • #971
    Jake WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭Jake WW


    Babs if you're a dectective, then im Paul Kersey.
    You've got no leads, no evidence, no facts.


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  • #972
    Brendan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    Derry looked into it


    Derry WW wrote: »
    Ok Steve’s list

    Had an urge to kill Des, Clodagh checked their posts could see nothing dodgy. Des says couldn’t care less if shot and that Steve is looking for a rise.

    Moved onto Fiona and Liam. Liam responds saying he’s trigger happy but doesn’t give a defence for themselves.

    Suggests shooting Jake for forgetting their own username

    Doris asks if Steve is gonna shoot or gif everyone to death. Steve responds asking who do they suggest. Doris replies just a joke and not to kill anyone yet

    Ewan says don’t waste bullet on someone who may be modkilled.

    Steve says he wants to kill someone cos it’s fun but at same time doesn’t want to spoil someone’s game.

    Steve wishes Katie was here to help him decide. Liam questions the sad face and being trigger happy and thought he was waiting for village to decide. Steve posts not even sorry gif

    Steve gonna chill and take a break for a while. Does wants him to come back and play with his gun. Steve still says he’s trying to resist urge to shoot des


    STEVE IS DEAD


  • #973
    Liam WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,250 ✭✭✭Liam WW


    Does anyone else feel from the flavour of the mod posts that the wolf team is building day by day and working up to 4 as opposed to started with 4?

    If it was the case then a wolf on day 1 with no mates could give out a wonky gun to a villager to cause havoc. But if they started with 4 would a wolf give out a gun to a randomer which could possibly kill one of their own especially given its supposed dynamic


  • #974
    Ewan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Ewan WW


    Barbara WW wrote: »

    Multiple mentions of Russia? Why? You a commie? Has the East End got a Ruskie problem bubbling under? You gonna manipulate the votes tonight too?

    I have a great read of this gameand I'd put the Queen Vic on you being a wolf.

    Two votes were blocked...


  • #975
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Clodagh WW wrote: »
    Alternatively, you gave a wonky gun to a prominent player and (whether you could or not) risked a village player being killed.

    As a result of this, we not only lost the bullet you gave, but potentially a vig bullet, if Steve wasnt a wolf (which it looks like from flavour).

    Can you see how this could be seen as too much of a comedy of errors on your part? Of you trying to generate some goodwill when you didnt really have skin in the game?

    To play devils advocate, what if the wonky gun was a wolf power. You used it, and now are trying to clear yourself with the above interpretation. What do you think of that?

    Devils advocate, if the wonky gun was a wolf power why would a baddy come out day 1? Not just that, why would a baddy who nobody was talking about come out so early ? And why give exact dynamics of the gun that look as dodgy as f**k? Why not just say I was given the power to give Steve the gun? I was given gun that wasn’t going to kill who it targeted. Oddly enough the gun could of just as easily killed a wolf by accident so it wasn’t definitely going to kill a villager.

    In terms of blocked vote, let’s say I was bad and all above was a ruse. Why would I bring more attention on myself by also blocking my vote after being the talk of the day?

    So somebody thinks I’m more important then I’m saying (blocked vote).


  • #976
    Brendan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    2 mentions of Russia - 2 votes lost
    2 insults about your mum .... priceless... to a wolf doing a task?



    maybe not much to go on but more tasky than anything else seen so far. Maybe you are a detective Babs I wasn't so sure with it arising after an Ode to Pat Butcher


  • #977
    Clodagh WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Brendan WW wrote: »
    Derry looked into it

    Its not a bad analysis. We might have to go further back into Steve's posts (sigh) to try and identify possible motives.
    Liam WW wrote: »
    Does anyone else feel from the flavour of the mod posts that the wolf team is building day by day and working up to 4 as opposed to started with 4?

    If it was the case then a wolf on day 1 with no mates could give out a wonky gun to a villager to cause havoc. But if they started with 4 would a wolf give out a gun to a randomer which could possibly kill one of their own especially given its supposed dynamic

    The odds would be in favour if the wolves were to do it on D1. At that stage it was 21v4? If they were going to use it as a power, that would be the time to do it.

    Remember as well that 21v4 isnt great odds in terms of the number of wolves in game. We know now that there is a sk as well, but neither we nor the wolves knew then. If they had a way of maybe reducing village numbers, id say they would take it.


  • #978
    Barbara WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    Brendan WW wrote: »
    2 mentions of Russia - 2 votes lost

    Would they do something like that in a game about EastEnders?


  • #979
    Clodagh WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    Devils advocate, if the wonky gun was a wolf power why would a baddy come out day 1? Not just that, why would a baddy who nobody was talking about come out so early ? And why give exact dynamics of the gun that look as dodgy as f**k? Why not just say I was given the power to give Steve the gun? I was given gun that wasn’t going to kill who it targeted. Oddly enough the gun could of just as easily killed a wolf by accident so it wasn’t definitely going to kill a villager.

    In terms of blocked vote, let’s say I was bad and all above was a ruse. Why would I bring more attention on myself by also blocking my vote after being the talk of the day?

    So somebody thinks I’m more important then I’m saying (blocked vote).

    Ok thank you for responding!

    1)day 1 - see my odds post above.
    2)if you hand it out on D1, you get most cred by following up and 'revealing' what had happened to the village.
    3) + 4) Because if you gave Steve the gun and he later turned out to be a wolf (which priest could verify), having just been killed by the vig, that would look very very bad for you. Unfortunately we dont actually have any proof the gun was wonky at all.


  • #980
    Jake WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,752 ✭✭✭Jake WW


    Brendan WW wrote: »
    2 mentions of Russia - 2 votes lost
    2 insults about your mum .... priceless... to a wolf doing a task?



    maybe not much to go on but more tasky than anything else seen so far. Maybe you are a detective Babs I wasn't so sure with it arising after an Ode to Pat Butcher

    That's just stupid.


  • #981
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Clodagh WW wrote: »
    *whether you could tell the prominent player about the gun or not

    I already said I couldn’t let the player who received the gift know that it was going to hit a different target alphabetically to the one they choose..


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  • #982
    Brendan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    Barbara WW wrote: »
    Would they do something like that in a game about EastEnders?


    I did wonder that. a Your mum insult might fit the east end more but maybe at the moment given the anti russian feeling in England and everyone in the vic talking about the world cup a Russia task could be believable.


    If were going to question what the mods might do, would they state they were going to be extra strict on people voting wrong re passwords right before someone used a power that could make peoples votes get blocked. Sounds like dodgy russian shenanigans to me.. VladamirJoe :pac:


  • #983
    Ewan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,733 ✭✭✭Ewan WW


    Barbara WW wrote: »
    Would they do something like that in a game about EastEnders?

    The world cup has moved its time slot?


  • #984
    Brendan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    Jake WW wrote: »
    That's just stupid.




    I encourage you to highlight other peoples posting that warrants us to look into that instead. I always think this would be the best way for people to respond instead of getting defensive.


  • #985
    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Lynch form for quick reference

    https://goo.gl/forms/OmjWTeC0ZbzpOY882

    Also available on the Werewolf lynch sticky! No excuses


  • #986
    Fiona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    Barbara WW wrote: »
    Would they do something like that in a game about EastEnders?

    Is Russia/Russian rhyming slang for anything


  • #987
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Clodagh WW wrote: »
    Ok thank you for responding!

    1)day 1 - see my odds post above.
    2)if you hand it out on D1, you get most cred by following up and 'revealing' what had happened to the village.
    3) + 4) Because if you gave Steve the gun and he later turned out to be a wolf (which priest could verify), having just been killed by the vig, that would look very very bad for you. Unfortunately we dont actually have any proof the gun was wonky at all.

    My interpretation of this post is that you think I am Petey

    my-name-is-petey-and-i-have-gigantic-balls.jpg


  • #988
    Brendan WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,429 ✭✭✭Brendan WW


    Ewan WW wrote: »
    The world cup has moved its time slot?


    a quick google shows that has happened due to the Russia world cup at least once


  • #989
    Fiona WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Fiona WW


    Fiona WW wrote: »
    Is Russia/Russian rhyming slang for anything

    Cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk says no... Nevermind


  • #990
    Clodagh WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    I already said I couldn’t let the player who received the gift know that it was going to hit a different target alphabetically to the one they choose..

    Unfortunately we have no proof this is how the gun worked. What we know is that Steve got a gun (well actually we are pretty sure he did, not 100%), and that after Steve was shot by someone else (Grant) that you had an explanation for how the gun, that Steve didnt get to use, worked.
    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    My interpretation of this post is that you think I am Petey

    If beaker wasnt modding, id be accusing you of beakering.


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  • #991
    Eva WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,931 ✭✭✭Eva WW


    Liam WW wrote: »
    Was the dude who had the dog in the show a good character ya




    I am running with the assumption that Robbie is the bg and he sends his dog wellard of to protect people.


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