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  • #32
    Fourier
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    Finnegans wake is the one I'm going to try and read this year. I bought a few commantaries as I doubt I'd understand all the references by myself.


  • #33
    Permabear
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  • #34
    Fourier
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    I've read that quite a few times, but he himself said it was his masterpiece didn't he?

    A pity then that it is discussed so little.


  • #35
    Permabear
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  • #36
    andekwarhola
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    Patww79 wrote: »
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    paw patrol wrote: »
    I read joyce in school. I thought it was all **** then.
    Harry Palmr wrote: »

    Load of old Coddle
    Deleted User wrote: »
    What a verbose bollocks.
    paw patrol wrote: »
    But if being thick means I'm poles apart from pompous fcuks like David Norris then I'm ok with that.
    Joe Dog wrote: »
    Sounds like an awful lot of work to go through just to read a book.
    Hector Savage wrote: »

    - absolute and utter drivel.

    DRIVEL

    The AH Review of Books :pac:


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  • #37
    [Deleted User]
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    Ulysses really isn’t that difficult to read, a myth has built up around it that it is some form literary marathon and simply finishing it is an achievement in itself.

    The book is broken up into sections but these are not marked in the book. Once you highlight where these parts start and end it’s pretty straight forward.

    The difficulty really stems from whether you find what you’re reading boring or not but if boredom were equated with difficulty people like Banville, Enright, Tóibín, and other such serious boredom merchants wouldn’t be selling as they do.

    Yes, the book does shift style throughout and it get a little Finnegan’s Wake-y towards the end but you can still decipher what’s going on.

    Joyce’s shock at negative opinions on Finnegan’s Wake is baffling really, he put out something that is the literary equivalent of The Beatles’ Revolution 9.


  • #38
    Hector Savage
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    Your Face wrote: »
    Some of the replies on this thread are very revealing.

    ?

    What I am an uneducated fool cos I didn't like it ?

    Anway, I was very young, I have always wanted to give it another chance now that my tastes have changed - but really amn't looking forward to it .


  • #39
    Permabear
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  • #40
    Hector Savage
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    Permabear wrote: »
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    Actually yeah my Dad was telling me years back that to get the most out of it, one needs a guide ..


  • #41
    [Deleted User]
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    andekwarhola wrote: »
    The AH Review of Books :pac:

    Coddle has been mentioned as well. How humans would want to eat pigswill is a bit of a mystery...........


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  • #42
    pauliebdub
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    I've read Dubliners, which is an excellent collection of short stories and I have Ulysses at home on a shelf, I managed about 30 pages before giving up. It's always been one I've been meaning to return to.


  • #43
    Permabear
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  • #44
    Ipso
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    Optimalprimerib wrote: »
    Along with the Barry town trilogy of course

    And the ROCK series!


  • #45
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    andekwarhola wrote: »
    The AH Review of Books :pac:

    These are actually the blurbs from the paperback edition.


  • #46
    FTA69
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    mick malones mauser wrote: »
    Anybody who mentions that Charlatan Roddy Doyle in a conversation about James Joyce deserves to be shot or at the very least deported to Australia on an old style convict ship.

    Roddy Doyle is one of the best writers Ireland has produced; an absolutely blinding rendition of some various aspects of working class life in urban Ireland. The Woman Who Walked into Doors, Barrytown Trilogy - magnificent stuff.

    I've never read Joyce, and I'm not sh*tting on him, but Doyle shouldn't be denigrated.


  • #47
    Day Lewin
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    FTA69 wrote: »
    Roddy Doyle is one of the best writers Ireland has produced; an absolutely blinding rendition of some various aspects of working class life in urban Ireland. The Woman Who Walked into Doors, Barrytown Trilogy - magnificent stuff.

    I've never read Joyce, and I'm not sh*tting on him, but Doyle shouldn't be denigrated.

    At least Roddy Doyle is entertaining; and so is Joyce, believe it or not: - though that Stephen Dedalus is a dismally tedious character in my educated opinion.
    Some poster above mentioned the likes of Banville, Toibín, and McGahern that really insert the iron of boredom into the soul: Oh how I agree! -- wearisome pessimism from beginning to end. They may write in plain sentences but plain is not everything; inspiration, humour, and insight are what adds the sparkle to the wine.
    I've coped with Ulysses, ho-hum on Dubliners and Portrait of that Artist: failed on Finnegan's Wake, and just brokenly beg to be delivered from the likes of John McGahern. And as for Angela's bleedin' Ashes! Save me, chop a limb off, anything to be rescued from such a fεkkin depressing book. :-)


  • #48
    mick malones mauser
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    Omg
    Did someone mention Roddy Feckin Doyle again.
    Honestly !! "One of the best writers we have produced "
    No he isn't.


  • #49
    Permabear
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  • #50
    Duffy the Vampire Slayer
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    Permabear wrote: »
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    Virtually everything I have ever heard from Roddy Doyle make me less likely to read his work. He seems like a very obnoxious man.


  • #51
    topper75
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    Day Lewin wrote: »
    And as for Angela's bleedin' Ashes! Save me, chop a limb off, anything to be rescued from such a fεkkin depressing book. :-)

    A hilarious take on the absurdity of deprivation and a beaten society's tolerance of it. Reread and appreciate.

    Speaking of prizewinning Irish authors... anyone here tried Solar Bones?


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  • #52
    Day Lewin
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    topper75 wrote: »
    A hilarious take on the absurdity of deprivation and a beaten society's tolerance of it. Reread and appreciate.

    Speaking of prizewinning Irish authors... anyone here tried Solar Bones?

    It sounds like some grunge band; is that a real name?


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