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Full Frame or Crop upgrade?

  • 17-06-2018 07:06PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭


    I have a Canon 600D and am thinking of an upgrade but dont know if I can go Full Frame
    Budgets an issue as the money tree in the garden died so it wont be a 5D Mark 4....or a mark 3 for that matter

    I don't want to change my lenses as I've invested quiet a bit in them over the years.

    I do landscape mainly.

    My lenses are
    Tamron XR Di2 AF 18-200 F3.5-6.3 (IF)
    Tamron 16-300 F/3.5-6.3 Plezo Drive
    Tamron USD 150-600 F/5-6.3
    Sigma DG 70-300 1.4-5.6
    Sigma EX 10-20 1.4-5.6 DC HSM
    Canon EF-S 18-55 (IS)
    Canon EF-S 55-250 (IS)
    Canon 40mm

    TIA


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭wersal gummage


    I have a Canon 600D and am thinking of an upgrade but dont know if I can go Full Frame
    Budgets an issue as the money tree in the garden died so it wont be a 5D Mark 4....or a mark 3 for that matter

    I don't want to change my lenses as I've invested quiet a bit in them over the years.

    I do landscape mainly.

    My lenses are
    Tamron XR Di2 AF 18-200 F3.5-6.3 (IF)
    Tamron 16-300 F/3.5-6.3 Plezo Drive
    Tamron USD 150-600 F/5-6.3
    Sigma DG 70-300 1.4-5.6
    Sigma EX 10-20 1.4-5.6 DC HSM
    Canon EF-S 18-55 (IS)
    Canon EF-S 55-250 (IS)
    Canon 40mm

    TIA

    Not an expert, but rarely log in here and saw this... No idea what those tamron and sigma lenses are, but I believe that your ef-s canons won't work on full frame. Your sigma and tamron may be the same if they are designed for crop sensor


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Not an expert, but rarely log in here and saw this... No idea what those tamron and sigma lenses are, but I believe that your ef-s canons won't work on full frame. Your sigma and tamron may be the same if they are designed for crop sensor

    Thanks
    Did a bit of research last night. All my lenses bar the 150-600 will only work on crop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭draiochtanois


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,094 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Also a 600D shooter. If you want a free "Upgrade" ML is great on it. Intervalometer + HDR etc come in useful.


    My issue with it is pure sensor performance, in poor lighting my phone starts wiping the floor with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭Chavways


    Seems like you have a lot of crossover with focal lengths. Are you looking to upgrade for photography only? No video work?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 I.Solo.


    Why do you have lenses which cross focal lengths?

    Personally, I'd recommend you selling them and making your money back and buy F Mount Nikon lenses. You could sell your current rebel camera and lenses on Ebay and buy a D500 which is an absolute must if you're considering upgrading to a better photography camera.

    Yes, my preference is Nikon, but everyone to their own ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Why are you considering an upgrade?
    In what way do you feel you are limited by your current kit?

    OP needs to answer this if advice is being sought..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    This post has been deleted.

    I'd like something with better sensor /new processor.

    Its a thought rather than a definite at the moment


    AS for cross focal length. Its just the way things went. I use my tamron/sigmas more than my kit lenses. Just depends on where I am and what i think I'll see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 I.Solo.


    My lenses are
    Tamron XR Di2 AF 18-200 F3.5-6.3 (IF)
    Tamron 16-300 F/3.5-6.3 Plezo Drive
    Tamron USD 150-600 F/5-6.3
    Sigma DG 70-300 1.4-5.6
    Sigma EX 10-20 1.4-5.6 DC HSM
    Canon EF-S 18-55 (IS)
    Canon EF-S 55-250 (IS)
    Canon 40mm

    TIA

    Your 16-300 makes your 18-55 18-200 55-250 and 70-300 almost redundant.
    I have the F mount Tamron 18-200 for Nikon, and its a great little lens. For the price of those lenses I've listed, you could sell them as a bundle on Ebay and get 2 new F Mount lens for Nikon should you consider selling your Canon and getting a Nikon D500?

    I'll never buy another camera again. You can't go wrong, ask anyone who has one. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,094 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    I.Solo. wrote: »
    Why do you have lenses which cross focal lengths?

    Personally, I'd recommend you selling them and making your money back and buy F Mount Nikon lenses. You could sell your current rebel camera and lenses on Ebay and buy a D500 which is an absolute must if you're considering upgrading to a better photography camera.

    Yes, my preference is Nikon, but everyone to their own ;)
    I.Solo. wrote: »
    Your 16-300 makes your 18-55 18-200 55-250 and 70-300 almost redundant.
    I have the F mount Tamron 18-200 for Nikon, and its a great little lens. For the price of those lenses I've listed, you could sell them as a bundle on Ebay and get 2 new F Mount lens for Nikon should you consider selling your Canon and getting a Nikon D500?

    I'll never buy another camera again. You can't go wrong, ask anyone who has one. :)

    Can you lay off the Nikon propaganda? OP has made zero indication of an interest in a brand swap after your first post so keeping at it is just taking the p1ss.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 I.Solo.


    No need to be rude. OP didn't ask for no opinions on Nikon either. So what's the problem?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭Myksyk


    Gently does it please ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I.Solo. wrote: »
    No need to be rude. OP didn't ask for no opinions on Nikon either. So what's the problem?

    I said I didn't want to swap brands in my first post.
    My 600mm alone cost me a grand!

    But thanks for the propaganda :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,794 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Thanks
    Did a bit of research last night. All my lenses bar the 150-600 will only work on crop.
    will a new (FX) body not automatically crop for you on the DX lenses?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,114 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    I'd like something with better sensor /new processor.

    What is it about the 600D sensor/processor you'd like to improve?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,094 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    will a new (FX) body not automatically crop for you on the DX lenses?

    Think you've been confused by a previous poster, he's EF-S and EF not FX and DX, no good way to make them work together.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,794 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i wasn't sure if the same concept would apply, if an EF-S lens on an EF body would trigger the body to automatically cropping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,094 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Physically won't fit. Plastic protrusion and a rear element that goes too far.

    (large image)
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Canon_EF_and_EF-S_lens_comparison.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    AS for cross focal length. Its just the way things went. I use my tamron/sigmas more than my kit lenses. Just depends on where I am and what i think I'll see.

    I don't think you're comprehending. You don't need / shouldn't have bought about half of your lenses. You've essentially wasted a heap of money buying lenses that all do the exact same thing. The fact that you can choose from 5 lenses for shooting at 1 focal length isn't good! :pac:

    Just to give you an example, this is how my own main lenses are in terms of not overlapping

    Canon EF-S 10-22
    Canon 24-70 F/2.8 L
    Canon 70-200 F/2.8 L

    If I was going to expand on that, the next one I'd get would be a 300 F4.

    Personally I'd suggest sorting out your lens collection before changing camera body. Most of what you have while they're fine lenses, they aren't great quality glass - they're all mostly limited at f/3.5-6.3.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I don't think you're comprehending. You don't need / shouldn't have bought about half of your lenses. You've essentially wasted a heap of money buying lenses that all do the exact same thing. The fact that you can choose from 5 lenses for shooting at 1 focal length isn't good! :pac:

    Just to give you an example, this is how my own main lenses are in terms of not overlapping

    Canon EF-S 10-22
    Canon 24-70 F/2.8 L
    Canon 70-200 F/2.8 L

    If I was going to expand on that, the next one I'd get would be a 300 F4.

    Personally I'd suggest sorting out your lens collection before changing camera body. Most of what you have while they're fine lenses, they aren't great quality glass - they're all mostly limited at f/3.5-6.3.

    That's the problem with buying lenses when only starting out. You don't always make the best choices.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    That's the problem with buying lenses when only starting out. You don't always make the best choices.

    Sure. Again you're kind of missing the point. I didn't really want clarification.

    SELL. THEM.


    Figure out which ones you genuinely should keep. My suggestions would be the 10-20, the 40mm prime and the 150-600. Sell everything else and consolidate to 2 quality lenses covering ~20-200mm.

    Canon or Sigma 24-70 or 24-105 (F2.8 or F4) would be my first suggestion. Sigma also has a 70-200 that's a bit cheaper than the Canon alternative.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Sure. Again you're kind of missing the point. I didn't really want clarification.

    SELL. THEM.


    Figure out which ones you genuinely should keep. My suggestions would be the 10-20, the 40mm prime and the 150-600. Sell everything else and consolidate to 2 quality lenses covering ~20-200mm.

    Canon or Sigma 24-70 or 24-105 (F2.8 or F4) would be my first suggestion. Sigma also has a 70-200 that's a bit cheaper than the Canon alternative.
    I got the point.

    So ok,next question.

    What are they worth ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,094 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    I got the point.

    So ok,next question.

    What are they worth ?

    Use the ebay "Sold Listings" filter and find recent sales of the same units in the same condition. That'll give you an accurate ballpark.


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